Jim Harbaugh Thread - HC Chargers

Originally posted by swoosh6996:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by dmax:

Originally posted by Rascal:
How the fxxk can you win big games with a POS of a QB like O'Korn??!! You tell me!!

isn't harbaugh the qb guru..
maybe that label isn't right

Dude, I don't care who you are, you can be QB God and Michigan would still have lost that game with O'Korn!! The guy is so bad that he shouldn't even be on Michigan's squad. Period!!!

Ask any analyst, they will tell you Harbaugh must find a QB. The rest of the team actually is fine and played pretty well. But, without a proper QB you just don't stand a chance.

he's just getting exposed now, O'korn is a hand picked guy

Hand-picked? If that is the case, he picked wrong then.

Did you watch the game??

The guy totally sucks!!!

Thanks to O'Korn, Michigan had no chance of sustaining drives. The guy panicks the moment he sees a D-lineman and has no guts to keep his eyes down field.

I really feel bad for the rest of the team. If they had a proper QB, they would have won the game. The rest of the team actually played alright.

Meyer can bring in a competent QB when his starter goes down but Harbaugh rolls out his crap of a QB? His coaching is overrated, and it was proved yet again today. At least he will have the rest of his life to try and beat Ohio State!

Noone said Harbaugh is the GOAT. You fire Harbaugh then who are you going to bring in? The college equivalent of Tomsula? Chip Kelly (even if he wasn't going to UCLA)? LOL.

Bottom line, Harbaugh is still one hell of a coach. But, can he win the big one? That's yet to be seen.

Originally posted by Rascal:

Noone said Harbaugh is the GOAT. You fire Harbaugh then who are you going to bring in? The college equivalent of Tomsula? Chip Kelly (even if he wasn't going to UCLA)? LOL.

Bottom line, Harbaugh is still one hell of a coach. But, can he win the big one? That's yet to be seen.

For Michigan, he's still the best thing to happen to them in years. But it is fair to argue that he's not earning his money. When he's compared to Rich Rodriguez, that's not good company to be in. Let's not talk about big games, because he's not been able to win one, college or pro.

Those QBs are his and he has to own up to the lack of production from that position. If Meyer has no issues bringing in QBs and getting decent production out of them, then why is it an issue for Harbaugh?

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by teylo31:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by dmax:

Originally posted by Rascal:

How the fxxk can you win big games with a POS of a QB like O'Korn??!! You tell me!!

isn't harbaugh the qb guru..
maybe that label isn't right

Dude, I don't care who you are, you can be QB God and Michigan would still have lost that game with O'Korn!! The guy is so bad that he shouldn't even be on Michigan's squad. Period!!!

Ask any analyst, they will tell you Harbaugh must find a QB. The rest of the team actually is fine and played pretty well. But, without a proper QB you just don't stand a chance.

Hahaha. Blind AF. Michicant was up 14-0 and lost. Yes blame that on your qb who is probably 1 of 4 possible options and that could have played but yes the qb s**terer is not to blame but his talent but lets not talk about O scoring 31 in 3 qtrs and winning with a red shirt freshman. GTFOH

Brain dead. What QBs have Michigan got that is any good? Speight? Peters? Wake the fxxk up, all of them are scrubs. You don't mean to tell me they are top college QBs, are you? I didn't hear any of them are up for the Heisman, did you? LOL. Put in an above average college QB like Mason Rudolph for example in that squad and Michigan would have won that game easily!!!

Originally posted by swoosh6996:
For Michigan, he's still the best thing to happen to them in years. But it is fair to argue that he's not earning his money. When he's compared to Rich Rodriguez, that's not good company to be in. Let's not talk about big games, because he's not been able to win one, college or pro.

Those QBs are his and he has to own up to the lack of production from that position. If Meyer has no issues bringing in QBs and getting decent production out of them, then why is it an issue for him?

To say Harbaugh has never won a single big game at least in pro football is totally inaccurate.

You mean to tell me during his tenure the 9ers never won a single playoff game??

Sure he might not have won the Super Bowl, but other than that, he won us a ton of playoff games.

Originally posted by swoosh6996:
For Michigan, he's still the best thing to happen to them in years. But it is fair to argue that he's not earning his money. When he's compared to Rich Rodriguez, that's not good company to be in. Let's not talk about big games, because he's not been able to win one, college or pro.

Those QBs are his and he has to own up to the lack of production from that position. If Meyer has no issues bringing in QBs and getting decent production out of them, then why is it an issue for Harbaugh?

As for the QBs, my point is he didn't recruit good enough QBs, so that one is on him.

As it stands, it doesn't matter whether is O'Korn, Speight or Peters, they are all scrubs.

If he had a decent QB in that game like Mason Rudolph for example, Michigan would have won that game.

He did manage to get some production out of Speight, Alex and Kap. As for the 9ers, Kap had a limited ceiling once Harbaugh tried to teach him how to throw within the pocket and more advance West Coast Offense concepts. But, that is not Harbaugh's fault as he knew he had to grab a QB the moment he joined the 9ers. Being a HC in the NFL is a very short-lived career. And quite frankly, in that draft class there weren't many decent QBs anyway.

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by teylo31:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by dmax:

Originally posted by Rascal:

How the fxxk can you win big games with a POS of a QB like O'Korn??!! You tell me!!

isn't harbaugh the qb guru..
maybe that label isn't right

Dude, I don't care who you are, you can be QB God and Michigan would still have lost that game with O'Korn!! The guy is so bad that he shouldn't even be on Michigan's squad. Period!!!

Ask any analyst, they will tell you Harbaugh must find a QB. The rest of the team actually is fine and played pretty well. But, without a proper QB you just don't stand a chance.

Hahaha. Blind AF. Michicant was up 14-0 and lost. Yes blame that on your qb who is probably 1 of 4 possible options and that could have played but yes the qb s**terer is not to blame but his talent but lets not talk about O scoring 31 in 3 qtrs and winning with a red shirt freshman. GTFOH

Brain dead. What QBs have Michigan got that is any good? Speight? Peters? Wake the fxxk up, all of them are scrubs. You don't mean to tell me they are top college QBs, are you? I didn't hear any of them are up for the Heisman, did you? LOL. Put in an above average college QB like Mason Rudolph for example in that squad and Michigan would have won that game easily!!!

Guys, calling each other blind, brain dead and telling the other to GTFOH is just going to get you in grief. You aren't going to agree on this one. Either block each other or avoid responding. Or, hey here is a thought, talk football without insulting each other.

He wasnt a teacher!!

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by dmax:

Originally posted by Rascal:
How the fxxk can you win big games with a POS of a QB like O'Korn??!! You tell me!!

isn't harbaugh the qb guru..
maybe that label isn't right

Dude, I don't care who you are, you can be QB God and Michigan would still have lost that game with O'Korn!! The guy is so bad that he shouldn't even be on Michigan's squad. Period!!!

Ask any analyst, they will tell you Harbaugh must find a QB. The rest of the team actually is fine and played pretty well. But, without a proper QB you just don't stand a chance.

he's just getting exposed now, O'korn is a hand picked guy

The issue with Jimbo is his offensive philosophy. Jim coaches like he played...blue collar grinder and his philosophy is centered around developing top defenses via talent, running games and a complimentary passing game mostly one read-and-run. You can win some games with that at the pro level and a ton in college but at some point you have to develop a real passing game and QB for big games or when you get down. Kaepernick fit his philosophy perfectly. I never bought the "QB Guru" label for a second. He's all about TOP which is brutal for QB's.

He is now what he's always been all along and unfortunately when it comes to X's and O's, identifying skill sets in a QB and then developing them within a competent passing game, Jim just can't do it on any stage.

ShanaLynch and the rest of the NFL scouts should be looking to his defensive players, OL and RB's and maybe TE's.

Reading other forums it seems his offensive line is the main problem

O'Korn is a transfer and a stop gap until one of JH's recruits is ready to play hence why it's said you should give them 4-5 years until their recruits are fully developed. UM runs a pro offense too so you can't have someone just coast on athletic ability like you'd see with Meyer. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Michigan's starting QB Wilton Speight just announced he is transferring from Michigan before his senior season

Lol at all the Harbaugh hate for having a team perform as expected

Next year will be one that matters

Originally posted by TheRambler:

Michigan's starting QB Wilton Speight just announced he is transferring from Michigan before his senior season

Is Peters healthy? I think the writing is on the wall he will be taking over as Harbs hand picked guy

Originally posted by Rascal:

As for the QBs, my point is he didn't recruit good enough QBs, so that one is on him.

As it stands, it doesn't matter whether is O'Korn, Speight or Peters, they are all scrubs.

If he had a decent QB in that game like Mason Rudolph for example, Michigan would have won that game.

He did manage to get some production out of Speight, Alex and Kap. As for the 9ers, Kap had a limited ceiling once Harbaugh tried to teach him how to throw within the pocket and more advance West Coast Offense concepts. But, that is not Harbaugh's fault as he knew he had to grab a QB the moment he joined the 9ers. Being a HC in the NFL is a very short-lived career. And quite frankly, in that draft class there weren't many decent QBs anyway.

As if Greg Roman could teach a WCO concept to anyone.