Jim Harbaugh Thread - HC Chargers

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Don't let hate get in the way of facts.

Facts like can't even win the conference, what does he need.. another 4 years?

It takes a coach 3-4 years to get his players. You know this, don't act brand new. While he is about to contend and turned around another team and adding to his resume, we are on our third coach since him. It's unfortunate we fired the wrong guy on his fourth year.. Who takes days off on draft day? baalke did. Doesn't baalke owe the 49ers money? Meanwhile he is recruiting and developing players into the nfl..

We hit reset 2-3 times since getting rid of him for your boy baalke who disappeared.

Every new coach deserves 3-4 years and he has Michigan right where they want to be, within reach. Only in the 49er organization who refused to understand what we had, choosing an incompetent gm and firing a great head coach. Smh

Again, don't let your hate for him, get in the way of facts. Remove emotions. He earned it, like he earned his contract with us.

44-19-1 NFC Champions.

Gonna be a gobble gobble jive year.

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Don't let hate get in the way of facts.

Facts like can't even win the conference, what does he need.. another 4 years?

It takes a coach 3-4 years to get his players. You know this, don't act brand new. While he is about to contend and turned around another team and adding to his resume, we are on our third coach since him. It's unfortunate we fired the wrong guy on his fourth year.. Who takes days off on draft day? baalke did. Doesn't baalke owe the 49ers money? Meanwhile he is recruiting and developing players into the nfl..

We hit reset 2-3 times since getting rid of him for your boy baalke who disappeared.

Every new coach deserves 3-4 years and he has Michigan right where they want to be, within reach. Only in the 49er organization who refused to understand what we had, choosing an incompetent gm and firing a great head coach. Smh

Again, don't let your hate for him, get in the way of facts. Remove emotions. He earned it, like he earned his contract with us.

44-19-1 NFC Champions.

Whole lot a gobble and nothing to show. Meyer didn't need all these excuses. So it still brings the question, does he need another 4 years?

Originally posted by wailers15:

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

I'll give you that... but Harbaugh has built a Championship team this year, in year 4 and has the opportunity to accomplish both.

This defense got faster.

Its only a championship team if it actually competes for a championship. That remains to be seen.

True, James Franklin also got hired in 2014, This year will tell alot since you are comparing the two.

We know that defense will keep Michigan in every game.

With Shea Patterson and those weapons.. Look out, A mature qb is all we needed to help that top notch defense who is ready to win now.

Except Franklin took over way worse of a situation than Harbaugh. As well as a more depleted team of depth. I think Franklin has done a much better job than Harbaugh.

Lol says who, Let's recap? Highly debatable when students protested against our athletic director for the scandal.. Brady Hoke embarrassed himself his last last year and Michigan couldn't win switching coaches. Harbaugh brought stability and now has a championship team..

Way worse situation than Michigan is lying to yourself.. I'll give you the penn state scandal but Michigan and Rich Rodriguez era was a epic failure, along with Brady Hoke. My point? Michigan went through coaches before the 49ers were dumb enough to fire him and let Michigan come in and hire him.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/18236245
"Michigan athletic director Dave Brandon resigns"
DAVID JESSE AND MARK SNYDER | USA TODAY SPORTS | 11:39 am EDT October 31, 2014

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2014/10/31/michigan-students-and-fans-humiliate-ad-into-resigning/amp/

Michigan was a disaster prior Harbaugh similar to 49ers post Harbaugh (self inflicted wound) and now we are going to beat that other school this season and have a championship squad for years to come.

Michigan is beating that other school this year.

Book it...

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Whole lot a gobble and nothing to show. Meyer didn't need all these excuses. So it still brings the question, does he need another 4 years?

As you can see from the facts above. Urban Meyer and Michigan did not have the same to deal when entering their jobs. Two different situations if you look at the facts...

Yet Harbaugh has a championship team in year 4 of his 7 year contract. Does this answer your question? Why another 4 when he still has 3 in his contract. He might win multiple championships before his contract is up. Lol

Sure critics can say it took longer to assemble but you can also say Harbaugh had to deal with more s**t and pressure as well.

"AD says he wants Harbaugh at Michigan until he retires."
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/23513527/michigan-wolverines-ad-wants-jim-harbaugh-stay-retirement
Thats a AD or GM that knows what Harbaugh is worth, meanwhile (batman skit) we (49ers-Shanny-Lynch) still digging our way out of baalke's s**t hole....
What's the percentage rate of baalke's all acl squad entering the 2018 season? Is it 13%? I just want to know.

And if you really want to go in depth, Urban Meyer with the other school, 5 years 1 Championship.

Harbaugh is entering his 4th season.. So he is right on pace with his loaded squad.

In perspective, 4 years and alot to show.. He turned around another program and about to hoist it in the next couple seasons.

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Whole lot a gobble and nothing to show. Meyer didn't need all these excuses. So it still brings the question, does he need another 4 years?

As you can see from the facts above. Urban Meyer and Michigan did not have the same to deal when entering their jobs. Two different situations if you look at the facts...

Yet Harbaugh has a championship team in year 4 of his 7 year contract. Does this answer your question? Why another 4 when he still has 3 in his contract. He might win multiple championships before his contract is up. Lol

Sure critics can say it took longer to assemble but you can also say Harbaugh had to deal with more s**t and pressure as well.

"AD says he wants Harbaugh at Michigan until he retires."
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/23513527/michigan-wolverines-ad-wants-jim-harbaugh-stay-retirement
Thats a AD or GM that knows what Harbaugh is worth, meanwhile (batman skit) we (49ers-Shanny-Lynch) still digging our way out of baalke's s**t hole....
What's the percentage rate of baalke's all acl squad entering the 2018 season? Is it 13%? I just want to know.

And if you really want to go in depth, Urban Meyer with the other school, 5 years 1 Championship.

Harbaugh is entering his 4th season.. So he is right on pace with his loaded squad.

In perspective, 4 years and alot to show.. He turned around another program and about to hoist it in the next couple seasons.

All this championship talk is based on hope and wishful thinking; after another 3rd place year he will probably end up leaving

Mich has been sliding down the odds for winning a ship. Was 10/1, then 12/1, now 16/1. Still early but the way you are talking should have them as a 5/2 or 7/4 right now.

I suggest you place a bet now if you are so sure of this long shot

I'll believe it if they beat Notre Dame.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

All this championship talk is based on hope and wishful thinking; after another 3rd place year he will probably end up leaving

Mich has been sliding down the odds for winning a ship. Was 10/1, then 12/1, now 16/1. Still early but the way you are talking should have them as a 5/2 or 7/4 right now.

I suggest you place a bet now if you are so sure of this long shot

The odds are 16 to 1 right now? That's a good bet lol

Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

All this championship talk is based on hope and wishful thinking; after another 3rd place year he will probably end up leaving

Mich has been sliding down the odds for winning a ship. Was 10/1, then 12/1, now 16/1. Still early but the way you are talking should have them as a 5/2 or 7/4 right now.

I suggest you place a bet now if you are so sure of this long shot

The odds are 16 to 1 right now? That's a good bet lol

Michigan football a decent bet to win national title next season
By Rachel Lenzi, Land of 10 Staff
January 22, 2018
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.landof10.com/michigan/michigan-football-championship-odds/amp

Here's why one oddsmaker gives Michigan better 2018-2019 College Football Playoff title odds than Penn State
Updated on Jan 10, 2018 at 10:26 AM EST
https://www.google.com/amp/s/articles.pennlive.com/pennstatefootball/index.ssf/2018/01/heres_why_one_oddsmaker_gives.amp

Taking a look at Michigan betting odds versus Penn State, Wisconsin, MSU, Ohio State, and Notre Dame
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.maizenbrew.com/platform/amp/2018/5/26/17398572/michigan-betting-odds-versus-penn-state-wisconsin-msu-ohio-state-and-notre-dame

3rd toughest schedule in cfb 2018 season, also Big Ten conference has become a powerhouse.
No one can talk about our strength of schedule either.

Word, They were 9-1. I might put that bet in this year and next. 😈

Thanks.. 2018 will be the year Michigan goes to that other school and celebrate 🎉 on their turf.

Book it..

"Shea Patterson a 20-1 favorite to win Heisman Trophy

"New Michigan quarterback Shea Patterson is listed by the Westgate Las Vegas as a 20-1 favorite to win the 2018 Heisman Trophy, college football's annual award for most outstanding player. Patterson's odds place him in the top 15 among all college football players."
https://www.landof10.com/pwa/michigan/michigan/article/michigan-football-shea-patterson-heisman-trophy

If this kid is the truth and stays healthy, it's a wrap Harbaugh finally has his mature Qb and that's all Michigan has needed to go along with that stout defense and 17 starters coming back.

I can put at least 5 more stars in the draft thread that will be in the first 3 rounds of next years draft easily... Insanely Loaded..

lol That's some IFs

IF the OL can't block and every QB gets injured like last year they ain't winning s**t

Originally posted by SoCold:

lol That's some IFs

IF the OL can't block and every QB gets injured like last year they ain't winning s**t

True, that's the key. Hopefully with Shea Patterson elusiveness and a improved line will be key. They are making strides with the new coaches. What better test than going against a top defense. 17 starters coming back.

"Michigan's offensive line has potential, but how much?"
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.freep.com/amp/635130002

"Michigan football hoping Cesar Ruiz is first answer to complex OL puzzle"
https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/wolverines/2018/04/10/michigan-football-cesar-ruiz-jim-harbaugh/501529002/

"Michigan football trying to simplify offensive line after coaching change"
https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/wolverines/2018/04/05/michigan-football-offensive-line-ed-warinner/491879002/

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Whole lot a gobble and nothing to show. Meyer didn't need all these excuses. So it still brings the question, does he need another 4 years?

OSU was a superior program to UM even before Meyer took over. Meyer is 6-0 vs UM but before he came they still won 9 out of the last 11 times. Did you forget about Tressel winning a title? You're not catching them overnight. They're superior in every way.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Whole lot a gobble and nothing to show. Meyer didn't need all these excuses. So it still brings the question, does he need another 4 years?

OSU was a superior program to UM even before Meyer took over. Meyer is 6-0 vs UM but before he came they still won 9 out of the last 11 times. Did you forget about Tressel winning a title? You're not catching them overnight. They're superior in every way.

Overnight? I wouldn't say overnight? Harbaugh has been there 4 years and has built a contender.. 2 years ago it came down to one play.. Jabrill Peppers stopped Samuels, the refs handed that one. Let's not go too far with that superior word when the game came down to a play.Last year Michigan was up and the other school came back. The games have been competitive if you see the last couple of years of Harbaugh's tenure. Strides have been made. lol

Not this year. Michigan is going to finally beat the other school, the pieces are there.

17 Starters coming back this year, not 5 starters like last year.

Remember who said it nice and early.. We are beating them this year. You will see what type of squad we have.

I understand the pessimism though.

Originally posted by SoCold:

lol That's some IFs

IF the OL can't block and every QB gets injured like last year they ain't winning s**t

Huge ifs but imo it's not worth betting on a favorite like Alabama. Take a longer shot on these types of bets that still have a chance