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Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Originally posted by SoCold:
lol That's some IFs

IF the OL can't block and every QB gets injured like last year they ain't winning s**t

Huge ifs but imo it's not worth betting on a favorite like Alabama. Take a longer shot on these types of bets that still have a chance

Bama trying to sign 8th graders.


https://twitter.com/K_Goodwin2022/status/1008497413395492865/photo/1


This is not a normal year, with 6 out of the 11 best defensive players going pro next year.

Michigan has the two best corners in the nation. It's not Wu saying it.. It's the passer rating. Along with Chase Winovich and Rashan Gary and those linebackers. You are looking at the best defense in the nation.

Watch how many records they break.. lol

Throw in this kid 5 star monster.. Omg we are stacked!!! Ready.

[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Jun 18, 2018 at 10:00 AM ]
Don Brown excited about Michigan D: 'One of the fastest I've ever been around'
Updated on Mar 28, 2018 at 03:30 PM EDT

https://www.google.com/amp/s/articles.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2018/03/don_brown_excited_about_michig.amp
This defense will break records and possibly win a championship by themselves.. 🤪

"I've been doing this a long time," Brown said. "If not the fastest, one of the fastest groups I've ever been around. I'm pretty excited about it."

Michigan's Devin Bush named college football's top LB to watch by NFL.com"
By Stephen Pianovich, Land of 10 Staff
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.landof10.com/michigan/devin-bush-michigan-football-top-college-linebacker-nfl/amp
"Bush is the new prototype for linebacker in college and the NFL — not necessarily big, but fast and aggressive. He can blow through the A-gap to wrap up quarterbacks, attack gaps on stretch plays to bring down running backs in the backfield, and get out to the hash to cover receivers."


Ridiculous, I almost feel bad for opposing offenses but this year, trust you me. This defense is going to wreck havoc on this cfb league if they stay healthy.
[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Jun 18, 2018 at 11:18 AM ]
That's neat and all but the QB has to take care of the ball. I wanted to jump through my tv and punch O'Korn in the face while reliving the season watching All or nothing. lol
Originally posted by SoCold:
That's neat and all but the QB has to take care of the ball. I wanted to jump through my tv and punch O'Korn in the face while reliving the season watching All or nothing. lol






"Brandon Peters has edge in Michigan battle to back up Shea Patterson"
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.landof10.com/michigan/brandon-peters-michigan-quarterback-battle/amp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.landof10.com/michigan/michigan-transfer-jeff-george-jr-illinois-graduate-jim-harbaugh-wolverines-football/amp

Trust me, this is the future, Peters and Milton, no disrespect to okorn. Lol

Milton is impressing Harbaugh alot, Florida kid who has a cannon. Brandon Peters learned a tough lesson as a freshman. All Harbaugh has to do is coach now that he has his pieces. It took four years but right on time..

"Illinois graduate transfer QB Jeff George Jr. commits to Michigan"
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.landof10.com/michigan/michigan-transfer-jeff-george-jr-illinois-graduate-jim-harbaugh-wolverines-football/amp

Jeff George jr will be our 3 string. All of sudden its a crowded Qb position. This team is ready now and the next couple of years..

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[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Jun 18, 2018 at 12:16 PM ]
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Joe Milton reminds me a bit of Colin Kaepernick. It would be awesome if Joe develops into a QB that Kyle might want to draft in a couple of years for his offense.

Milton, Olympia's starting quarterback the last two years, was 82-for-178 passing for 1,543 yards, 17 touchdowns and seven interceptions last season. Some writers have referred to him as a dual-threat quarterback, which Milton objects to. He plays in a pro-style offense at Olympia and wants to be known as a pro-style quarterback who runs when he needs to, and the stats back him up. Milton rushed for just 42 yards and three touchdowns last season.
"I don't have one zone-read play in there for him," Hayes said. "He's mobile - that's different than being a dual-threat quarterback."
http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2017/05/joe_milton.html
Originally posted by Giedi:
Joe Milton reminds me a bit of Colin Kaepernick. It would be awesome if Joe develops into a QB that Kyle might want to draft in a couple of years for his offense.

Milton, Olympia's starting quarterback the last two years, was 82-for-178 passing for 1,543 yards, 17 touchdowns and seven interceptions last season. Some writers have referred to him as a dual-threat quarterback, which Milton objects to. He plays in a pro-style offense at Olympia and wants to be known as a pro-style quarterback who runs when he needs to, and the stats back him up. Milton rushed for just 42 yards and three touchdowns last season.
"I don't have one zone-read play in there for him," Hayes said. "He's mobile - that's different than being a dual-threat quarterback."
http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2017/05/joe_milton.html

Agreed!!! This young man is turning heads early... But I mean early.. Everyone is talking about this kids maturity and Arm strength is read this..

https://www.12up.com/posts/6061146-freshman-qb-joe-milton-already-turning-heads-at-michigan

ANN ARBOR, Mich. — When Michigan quarterback Joe Milton says he can throw a football 75 yards, he isn't exaggerating.

"The furthest I've thrown one is 85," Milton told reporters during Michigan's trip to France in April. "But on a regular day, maybe 75 or 80."

A few high school football coaches in Florida know that's true. They've seen Milton wing the ball downfield. They've also seen the skills that made Milton a college football prospect, such as his ability to extend plays and make good decisions to continue a possession."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.landof10.com/michigan/michigan-football-joe-milton-orlando-clint-johnson-bob-head-cameron-duke/amp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/articles.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2018/05/qb_joe_miltons_arm_strength_is.amp
[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Jun 19, 2018 at 1:39 AM ]
Don't forget about Dylan McCaffrey either.
Originally posted by SoCold:
Don't forget about Dylan McCaffrey either.

You're right. Forgot about McCaffrey.
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Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Originally posted by SoCold:
Don't forget about Dylan McCaffrey either.

You're right. Forgot about McCaffrey.

Man o Man, High school recruiting isn't the same as it was 10 years ago. You now have youtube highschool highlight film of Dylan and he looks impressive.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Originally posted by SoCold:
Don't forget about Dylan McCaffrey either.

You're right. Forgot about McCaffrey.

Man o Man, High school recruiting isn't the same as it was 10 years ago. You now have youtube highschool highlight film of Dylan and he looks impressive.

"Dylan McCaffrey, the dark horse candidate for Michigan QB job?"
http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2018/05/dylan_mccaffrey_the_dark_horse_1.html


[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Jun 19, 2018 at 1:37 PM ]
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One of Harbaugh's opposing coaches he needs to defeat to consider it a good season in 2018.



Combine the winning history, the championships and the dominant recruiting classes and how would Urban Meyer not rank as the best coach in the Big Ten? If not for Nick Saban's amazing surge at Alabama, Meyer could be the top-rated coach in the country based on his history at Ohio State, Florida and Utah. Meyer has also surrounded himself with some of the best assistants out there in recent years, including defensive coordinator Greg Schiano, former DC Chris Ash and former OC Tom Herman.
Athlon says, "Meyer has been a model of consistency and success at a high level since becoming a head coach in 2001. Over the last 16 years, Meyer has assembled an overall record of 177-31 and has claimed three national championships. One of those titles came at Ohio State, as the Buckeyes won the inaugural College Football Playoff in the 2014-15 season behind third-string quarterback Cardale Jones en route to a 14-1 overall record. Since taking over in Columbus, Meyer is 73-8 overall and has lost just three Big Ten contests. He's claimed two conference titles in that span and has finished just once outside of the top six in the final Associated Press poll. Meyer went 65-15 at Florida from 2005-10, winning the 2006 and '08 national titles. Additionally, Meyer compiled a 17-6 mark at Bowling Green (2001-02) and went 22-2 during an impressive two-year run at Utah (2003-04)."
https://247sports.com/college/iowa/ContentGallery/Athlon-ranks-Big-Ten-coaches-worst-to-first-119229027
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"Rebutting the 7 Dumbest Arguments Against Jim Harbaugh"
By Isaiah Hole | 19 hours ago

"Harbaugh has never finished better than third in the division."

"This is the argument we've been hearing most often as of late. It's technically true — of his tenure in the Big Ten. Better stated: Harbaugh has never coached Michigan to better than third in the Big Ten.

But there's several reasons why this is obviously, and patently used with intent to deceive (see what we did there?).

Rival fans use this argument to insinuate that Jim Harbaugh isn't worth his salt as a coach. However, he has a long track record of proving just the opposite. At San Diego, he took the Toreros from 7-5 to two consecutive Pioneer Football League titles. At Stanford, he inherited a one-win football team and in four years had them playing in a BCS-level bowl, with only one loss on the season. In 2009 and 2010, the Cardinal were PAC-10 runners-up.

Then, in 2011, he took the San Francisco 49ers job, turning around a franchise that had been mired in struggle and mediocrity since 2003. The Niners hadn't been to the playoffs since 2002, and they went to three straight NFC Championship Games and a Super Bowl under Harbaugh's leadership. Since? Woefully missed the playoffs all three years.

At Michigan, it's correct — he hasn't finished better than third. But, in his first year in Ann Arbor, pundits screamed that getting that team bowl eligible — after a 5-7 season in 2014 — would be witchcraft, yet, that team won 10 games. The next year, Michigan had the look of one of the four best teams in the country, but a controversial OT loss at Ohio State, who was ranked one spot ahead of the Wolverines as it were, kept the maize and blue from getting any better than third in the division, due to OSU's loss to Penn State. Last season, with all the personnel losses both before and during the season, it's no wonder Michigan finished fourth in the division. Losing ten starters on defense and eight on offense before you even take a snap — and then being on your third string quarterback — it's a little difficult to really establish dominance.

This third in the division malarkey is all just nonsense. If it's an Ohio State fan razzing you, then — well — probably not much you can say, since Urban Meyer has owned the conference since arriving in 2012. But Michigan State's Mark Dantonio didn't fare any better until his fourth season, when the Spartans tied for the conference title in 2010.

It takes time to build a program, especially one like Michigan's, which was on a steady decline in nearly every facet before Harbaugh took over."

"Harbaugh has never won anything."

"I guess NFC Championships don't count for the discerning fanbases of the Big Ten East, right?

At Michigan, as a coach, sure, Harbaugh hasn't won the conference — and he was only expected to maybe do so in year two, when the Wolverines were a foot away from literally doing just that (well, the division, not the conference). Otherwise, before he took the reins prior to the 2015 season, most knowledgable fans took a look at the schedule and the roster and asserted that anything you got positive in year one was gravy, year two was the shot, year three was a rebuild, and we'd see what happened in year four, with it also being a chance to win it all. Considering the trajectory of Michigan football, with only one double-digit win season coming in the 8 years before Harbaugh arrived, starting off his tenure with two back-to-back is nothing short of impressive.

Again, it's selective memory by rival fans. He won two back-to-back Pioneer League Championships in his three years in San Diego; he won the Orange Bowl with Stanford — heckuva feat as the Cardinal had one win four years prior; he won AP Coach of the Year in his first year with the 49ers, after that team lost to the NY Giants in OT of the 2011 NFC Championship Game; he wont the NFC West in his first two years at the helm, and came in second in 2013, losing to the eventual Super Bowl Champion Seattle Seahawks; he won the NFC Championship in 2012.

No, none of this is the big prize, and he never won his conference in FBS-level college football. But what he's done across all levels is more than enough evidence that he knows what he's doing.

Next: A half-truth that gets thrown out there all the time."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/wolverineswire.com/2018/06/21/dumb-arguments-jim-harbaugh-nfl-third-division-michigan-football/amp/



OFFICIALLY DEBUNKED! Selective memory is mute when the facts of history comes into play.. lol
[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Jun 23, 2018 at 2:53 AM ]
"It takes awhile to build a program, and while Michigan had a lot of top-rated recruiting classes under Brady Hoke, there were a lot more misses than hits. The same can't be said for Ohio State.

Harbaugh will get there. He's outcoached Urban twice now, but just hasn't had all the horses he needs to run the race. If not this year, I think 2019 is The Game you should have circled on your calendar."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/wolverineswire.com/2018/06/23/michigan-wolverines-football-questions/amp/
[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Jun 23, 2018 at 2:02 PM ]
Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
"Rebutting the 7 Dumbest Arguments Against Jim Harbaugh"
By Isaiah Hole | 19 hours ago

"Harbaugh has never finished better than third in the division."

"This is the argument we've been hearing most often as of late. It's technically true — of his tenure in the Big Ten. Better stated: Harbaugh has never coached Michigan to better than third in the Big Ten.

But there's several reasons why this is obviously, and patently used with intent to deceive (see what we did there?).

Rival fans use this argument to insinuate that Jim Harbaugh isn't worth his salt as a coach. However, he has a long track record of proving just the opposite. At San Diego, he took the Toreros from 7-5 to two consecutive Pioneer Football League titles. At Stanford, he inherited a one-win football team and in four years had them playing in a BCS-level bowl, with only one loss on the season. In 2009 and 2010, the Cardinal were PAC-10 runners-up.

Then, in 2011, he took the San Francisco 49ers job, turning around a franchise that had been mired in struggle and mediocrity since 2003. The Niners hadn't been to the playoffs since 2002, and they went to three straight NFC Championship Games and a Super Bowl under Harbaugh's leadership. Since? Woefully missed the playoffs all three years.

At Michigan, it's correct — he hasn't finished better than third. But, in his first year in Ann Arbor, pundits screamed that getting that team bowl eligible — after a 5-7 season in 2014 — would be witchcraft, yet, that team won 10 games. The next year, Michigan had the look of one of the four best teams in the country, but a controversial OT loss at Ohio State, who was ranked one spot ahead of the Wolverines as it were, kept the maize and blue from getting any better than third in the division, due to OSU's loss to Penn State. Last season, with all the personnel losses both before and during the season, it's no wonder Michigan finished fourth in the division. Losing ten starters on defense and eight on offense before you even take a snap — and then being on your third string quarterback — it's a little difficult to really establish dominance.

This third in the division malarkey is all just nonsense. If it's an Ohio State fan razzing you, then — well — probably not much you can say, since Urban Meyer has owned the conference since arriving in 2012. But Michigan State's Mark Dantonio didn't fare any better until his fourth season, when the Spartans tied for the conference title in 2010.

It takes time to build a program, especially one like Michigan's, which was on a steady decline in nearly every facet before Harbaugh took over."

"Harbaugh has never won anything."

"I guess NFC Championships don't count for the discerning fanbases of the Big Ten East, right?

At Michigan, as a coach, sure, Harbaugh hasn't won the conference — and he was only expected to maybe do so in year two, when the Wolverines were a foot away from literally doing just that (well, the division, not the conference). Otherwise, before he took the reins prior to the 2015 season, most knowledgable fans took a look at the schedule and the roster and asserted that anything you got positive in year one was gravy, year two was the shot, year three was a rebuild, and we'd see what happened in year four, with it also being a chance to win it all. Considering the trajectory of Michigan football, with only one double-digit win season coming in the 8 years before Harbaugh arrived, starting off his tenure with two back-to-back is nothing short of impressive.

Again, it's selective memory by rival fans. He won two back-to-back Pioneer League Championships in his three years in San Diego; he won the Orange Bowl with Stanford — heckuva feat as the Cardinal had one win four years prior; he won AP Coach of the Year in his first year with the 49ers, after that team lost to the NY Giants in OT of the 2011 NFC Championship Game; he wont the NFC West in his first two years at the helm, and came in second in 2013, losing to the eventual Super Bowl Champion Seattle Seahawks; he won the NFC Championship in 2012.

No, none of this is the big prize, and he never won his conference in FBS-level college football. But what he's done across all levels is more than enough evidence that he knows what he's doing.

Next: A half-truth that gets thrown out there all the time."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/wolverineswire.com/2018/06/21/dumb-arguments-jim-harbaugh-nfl-third-division-michigan-football/amp/



OFFICIALLY DEBUNKED! Selective memory is mute when the facts of history comes into play.. lol



A whole lot of excuses for a guy who hasn't finished any better than 3rd, hasn't beaten Ohio State and hasn't won a championship at any level.


Money talks and b******t walks.



If Harbaugh doesn't win big this year, nobody can point the finger at anyone else but him, it is that simple. At some point you gotta deliver on the hype.







If he wins big, then a lot of the questions stop. If he fails, then all the homer fluff pieces in the world won't be able to cover it up.
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