Jim Harbaugh Thread - HC Chargers

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

The next 2-3 years Michigan should have at least 1 National Championship. I respect what you are saying but what I am saying, The #1 defense in cfb is coming back with 9 of 11 starters. That's not a question mark. The Qb position was in question.

The Qb's are in place which was a question mark last season. My point? That #1 defense alone will keep us in every game and now a 5 star Qb like Shea Patterson?!?!?! It's going to be fun for Harbaugh these next years with his recruits..

With that roster, there's no reason why they shouldn't have at least one championship in the next couple of years.

Book it.

Haha...always love your optimism. No seriously, I love it.

Question: If he wins the championship in the next 2-3 years, will he be considered a great coach to you guys then?

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Question: If he wins the championship in the next 2-3 years, will he be considered a great coach to you guys then?

Don't tell me, Show me

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Question: If he wins the championship in the next 2-3 years, will he be considered a great coach to you guys then?

Don't tell me, Show me

What will it take though for you guys to consider him a great coach?

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Question: If he wins the championship in the next 2-3 years, will he be considered a great coach to you guys then?

Don't tell me, Show me

What will it take though for you guys to consider him a great coach?

idk maybe changing his offensive philosophy or knowing his own plays.

i do think he's a great leader/HC tho

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Yet...He is 44-19-1 in the NFL, the most winningest head coach in there first 3 years of tenure. Yet it was his offense who saved us in the nfc championship game?

The only real reason we lost was because baalke All ACL CREW.. baalke took days off during our super bowl run, picking tank carradine while cowboy was playing with one arm.. Tank sat on the bench while that defense was exhausted in the super bowl and nfc championship.

It was baalkes inept and failures that kept that defense replenished, while every other team was switching and resting players. The all ACL CREW never got up for the task.

Cowboy is still waiting for tank to replace him.. What a beautiful offense imagine if trent did his job and didn't take off during a super bowl run or any draft for that matter.

Ironically it was the offense that won us a nfc championship

Let's take it to the studio where Jim has footage. Take it from here Jim. Roll the tape.. We must have forgotten, sadly.



Damn that offense for winning us our nfc title.. bad offense, bad 60 yard bomb, bad come back from one of the largest deficits in nfc championship history..

Tisk tisk tisk, ungrateful are we NC? I'm disappointed in you NC

Eventually, it comes down to coaching and whether that's weak game planning, development of players, pissing off every official on the planet, untimely TO's, slow starts to games, penalties, X's and O's, blue collar mentality, etc. there is always a "but" with Harbaugh.

If he doesn't win with another stacked roster, at some point, even the biggest homer needs to question him...can't keep pushing it to "next year."

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Question: If he wins the championship in the next 2-3 years, will he be considered a great coach to you guys then?

Don't tell me, Show me

What will it take though for you guys to consider him a great coach?

idk maybe changing his offensive philosophy or knowing his own plays.

i do think he's a great leader/HC tho

Maybe go watch the All or Nothing series? I think you might get a clue as to how the offense is called. Maybe you should have a problem with Pep Hamilton now? His offense changes every time a new QB has to play due to injury.

lol

Originally posted by NCommand:

Eventually, it comes down to coaching and whether that's weak game planning, development of players, pissing off every official on the planet, untimely TO's, slow starts to games, penalties, X's and O's, blue collar mentality, etc. there is always a "but" with Harbaugh.

If he doesn't win with another stacked roster, at some point, even the biggest homer needs to question him...can't keep pushing it to "next year."

Originally posted by NCommand:

Eventually, it comes down to coaching and whether that's weak game planning, development of players, pissing off every official on the planet, untimely TO's, slow starts to games, penalties, X's and O's, blue collar mentality, etc. there is always a "but" with Harbaugh.

If he doesn't win with another stacked roster, at some point, even the biggest homer needs to question him...can't keep pushing it to "next year."

Yet you admit our gm was terrible? Yet his record for turning programs around is evident? We fired him before he could finish his contract.. Remember?

Yet he won an nfc title? Orange bowl? Are those not big games? Turned around multiple franchises that were in the dumpster and made them relevant?

He has the #1 defense in the nation? He has the roster loaded in year 4, we fired him in year 4 didn't we??? We are playing hot potato with coaches while he built a contender in 4 years.

Homer really? I could say the blind love for baalke is being a homer? No one couldn't say anything about baalke during that time.. He was untouchable. I got suspended multiple times speaking the truth, our gm was trash.

One is successful, the other isn't? One turns franchises into winners, the other is no where to be found.

"That 2011 draft netted the 49ers a total AV of 101 and a 20.2 average AV per season, second behind the previous class. The 2011 group also landed them a Pro Bowler and All-Pro in Aldon Smith. Smith, of course, is no longer with the 49ers. It also landed them Colin Kaepernick, who was the choice of Jim Harbaugh.

From a production standpoint, the 2012 draft might as well not have even happened. That draft should have landed the 49ers a couple of starters in 2016. Instead, it totaled an AV of five. FIVE. Below average players do that in one season. The 49ers entire draft class did that over a course of three seasons.

On top of that, none of the seven members of the 2012 draft class is still in San Francisco, and only one of them (Joe Looney) is still even in the NFL."

"From 2011 to 2015, the 49ers should have been restocking to prepare for the coming exodus of veteran players. While the team thrived, making three straight conference title games and a Super Bowl, the foundation for the future had far too many cracks."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/ninerswire.usatoday.com/2016/10/15/a-definitive-look-at-49ers-general-manager-trent-baalkes-failings-in-the-nfl-draft/amp/

Our window was from 2012-2014...

Question: What is a coach supposed to do when garbage is being drafted or for the 2013 season no players to help the super bowl team?

Question: Was baalke even present at the draft?

Question: What can a coach do with zero players in a whole draft class that amounted to couch and cheetoes material?

Question: Is a GM supposed to take off on draft days during a Super bowl window?

Question: Who most likely had us contending, Harbaugh's coaching or baalkes non-drafting???

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Question: If he wins the championship in the next 2-3 years, will he be considered a great coach to you guys then?

Don't tell me, Show me

What will it take though for you guys to consider him a great coach?

By being a great head coach. By beating great head coaches. By consistently winning games against great opponents and winning championships. It is pretty straightforward.


Nobody has to debate whether or not Saban or Belichick are great coaches. They have the track record and hardware to back it up. As does Urban Meyer.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Question: If he wins the championship in the next 2-3 years, will he be considered a great coach to you guys then?

Don't tell me, Show me

What will it take though for you guys to consider him a great coach?

By being a great head coach. By beating great head coaches. By consistently winning games against great opponents and winning championships. It is pretty straightforward.


Nobody has to debate whether or not Saban or Belichick are great coaches. They have the track record and hardware to back it up. As does Urban Meyer.

Yet saban's nfl experience was a joke? Saban is the real glorified college coach.. Harbaugh proved he can consistently win, 44-19-1.. Until we chose a loser over him? Meyer hasn't tasted the big leagues yet.. If ever.

Harbaugh won a nfc title, How many coaches can say that? Not many.. just because in the eyes that hate him that doesn't matter as a big win, it doesn't mean in the real world we are supposed to think that or that it's true??

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Yet saban nfl experience was a joke? Harbaugh proved he can consistently win, 44-19-1.. Until we chose a loser over him?

Harbaugh won a nfc title, just because in the eyes that hate him that doesn't matter as a big win, it doesn't mean in the real world we are supposed to think that or that it's true??

Saban has 6 national championships. Exactly 6 more than Harbaugh. Let him win one first at any level and then we talk about him being a great coach.


And no NFC Championship titles don't count. Nobody talks about the mighty Buffalo Bills and their amazing four straight AFC Championship titles other than referencing how futile they were in not winning even just one SB.

"This Day in Dolphins History: Nick Saban quit
It's been ten years. He's still a quitter."
By Kevin Nogle on January 3, 2017 12:57 pm
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thephinsider.com/platform/amp/2017/1/3/14155182/nick-saban-alabama-quits-miami-dolphins-ten-years-ago

In fact he buckled and couldn't handle it in the nfl, is this the guy you want leading a team? A liar and a quitter?

"Ten years ago today, Nick Saban quit. The NFL got tough, and he ran away to Alabama.

After telling us all he would not be the head coach at Alabama, he was the head coach at Alabama. The next day, he held this press conference:"

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
"This Day in Dolphins History: Nick Saban quit
It's been ten years. He's still a quitter."
By Kevin Nogle on January 3, 2017 12:57 pm
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thephinsider.com/platform/amp/2017/1/3/14155182/nick-saban-alabama-quits-miami-dolphins-ten-years-ago

In fact he buckled and couldn't handle it in the nfl, is this the guy you want leading a team? A liar and a quitter?

"Ten years ago today, Nick Saban quit. The NFL got tough, and he ran away to Alabama.

After telling us all he would not be the head coach at Alabama, he was the head coach at Alabama. The next day, he held this press conference:"

could have saved some face if he mutually parted ways

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Saban has 6 national championships. Exactly 6 more than Harbaugh. Let him win one first at any level and then we talk about him being a great coach.


And no NFC Championship titles don't count. Nobody talks about the mighty Buffalo Bills and their amazing four straight AFC Championship titles other than referencing how futile they were in not winning even just one SB.


It don't mean a thing, unless you've got that ring.

Who's fault is that? The guy who drafted 0 players in 2013 or the coach? Saban is a quiter and a liar and couldn't handle the nfl. He was an embarrassment..

What does 0 players do for a head coach in super bowl contention?