Jim Harbaugh Thread - HC Chargers

"Michigan football getting 'thunder and lightning' with running backs"

"One difference? Harbaugh hasn't had a lead back like former Stanford running back Toby Gerhart. The Wolverines have yet to have a 1,000-yard rusher under Harbaugh, who has been more than happy to spread carries around.

Last season, Karan Higdon and Chris Evans combined for 299 carries for 1,679 yards and 17 touchdowns. Both return this year — Higdon is a senior and Evans a junior."

"Charbonnet, at 6-feet-2, 215 pounds, might seem like a prototypical big back. At 5-10, 191, Gray is classified by recruiting services as an all-purpose back.

Both, though, boast skill sets atypical for their respective sizes.

"You know, people overuse the 'Thunder-Lightning' term," 247Sports recruiting analyst Steve Lorenz said, "but I really think Charbonnet and Gray would be as close to a 'Thunder and Lightning' combo as you're going to get as far as two high school running back verbal commitments."

Breaking down Charbonnet

"He also reminds me of Le'Veon Bell in terms of the patience he has," Collins continued. "We run a lot of zone scheme, that's why he's so good at it. He plays with a really, really good eye, he reads pads well, he understands leverage. They're getting the total football player."

"Then there's Charbonnet's ability to run the ball. As a junior, he took 265 carries for 2,049 yards (7.7 YPC) and 23 touchdowns, according to MaxPreps. His film shows a running back with size who cuts well, displays good vision and has decent acceleration and long speed."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.freep.com/amp/764866002

Breaking down Gray

"(Gray) put a move on him in real small space and kind of buckled the kid's knees and melted him to the ground a little bit," Locastro recalled. "Just some flashes of that early on in his high school career that made you think, 'Wow, you don't coach too many kids that can do that.' "

"Lausanne doesn't just hand it off to him, either. They'll also use him as a weapon in the passing game, on angle routes, seam routes and wheel routes. Over the past two seasons, he has a combined 21 receptions for 487 yards and seven touchdowns, to go with a combined 553 carries for 5,366 yards and 83 rushing touchdowns."

Maybe this isn't the best time to post this in here.

As an armchair coach, you have to wonder what the 49ers were thinking in the final plays of Super Bowl 47—especially the coaches. Turns out, the players were wondering the same thing with that blunder. If anything, this interview gives me some closure.

As I've said he's a fantastic coach at getting the most out of his players but when it comes to X's and O's, his temperament and situational awareness he's sub-par. I still remember when he coachrd against OSU and his defense was dominating. His QB threw a pic right before the half and he threw a childish temper tantrum and got an unsportsmanlike penalty putting OSU in the redzone. The entire complexion of the game changed off his penalty.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Maybe this isn't the best time to post this in here.

For those of you who still have nightmares about the #49ers awful play calling in the final minutes of Super Bowl 47, it turns out Joe Staley shares your pain. He still shudders when he hears the call "Q8." https://t.co/LvgjpOju5m

— Niners Nation (@NinersNation) September 6, 2018

As an armchair coach, you have to wonder what the 49ers were thinking in the final plays of Super Bowl 47—especially the coaches. Turns out, the players were wondering the same thing with that blunder. If anything, this interview gives me some closure.

Well in the end the Harbaugh haters got what they wanted. More Baalke and less Harbaugh...

More "Steve Kerr" less competition..

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Well in the end the Harbaugh haters got what they wanted. More Baalke and less Harbaugh...

More "Steve Kerr" less competition..

Lol, this deflection is growing weaker over time as it becomes clear Harbaugh was not the deity some made him out to be.

Just because keeping Baalke and hiring Tomsula were the wrong decisions doesn't mean firing Harbaugh was wrong.

Originally posted by TheRambler:

Lol, this deflection is growing weaker over time as it becomes clear Harbaugh was not the deity some made him out to be.

Just because keeping Baalke and hiring Tomsula were the wrong decisions doesn't mean firing Harbaugh was wrong.

Should've just hired Shanahan back in 2015. In hindsight that was the optimal decision.

Harbaugh was good for a period but ultimately, he's a better college coach. I'll never get over Greg Roman. We have to keep in mind, Harbaugh made Baalke seem sane. I'm glad to see JM back in college.

Ultimately, JM is a good head coach. He just has trouble getting out of his own way. He's a very quirky guy which works in the motivational end but may lead to appointing OC's that are not ready for that job.

I kinda feel like Herm Edwards has some commonalities. And after looking at what Edwards is doing and his staff, I think it may be a good thing on the college level.

In the end, Harbaugh is very good at many aspects of Head Coaching... but, he made Baalke look sane and he had Greg Roman as a NFL OC. Things I personally will never overlook in evaluation.

"Flashback to Jim Harbaugh's first season at Michigan in 2015. The team began its season on the road against a tough Utah team. It was a night game in a hostile environment. A new quarterback was at the helm for the Wolverines, which also required a new offensive game plan. They lost the game, 24-17, after scoring a late touchdown to make it interesting.

Sounds somewhat familiar, doesn't it?

Sure, times are different, but the team went 10-3 in 2015, only getting outplayed by one other team (Ohio State) along the way. The defense was dominating, and the offense established its identity as a solid group that could more than hold its own."

"Contrary to peoples' reactions, Patterson looked pretty good in his maize and blue debut. He completed 66.7 percent of his passes, with 227 yards, one interception and a 123.6 QBR. While those numbers won't "wow" you, they're efficient for a quarterback with pressure to perform behind a struggling line."


https://www.google.com/amp/s/gbmwolverine.com/2018/09/04/michigan-football-unpopular-take-wolverines-alright/amp/

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

"Flashback to Jim Harbaugh's first season at Michigan in 2015. The team began its season on the road against a tough Utah team. It was a night game in a hostile environment. A new quarterback was at the helm for the Wolverines, which also required a new offensive game plan. They lost the game, 24-17, after scoring a late touchdown to make it interesting.

Sounds somewhat familiar, doesn't it?

Sure, times are different, but the team went 10-3 in 2015, only getting outplayed by one other team (Ohio State) along the way. The defense was dominating, and the offense established its identity as a solid group that could more than hold its own."

"Contrary to peoples' reactions, Patterson looked pretty good in his maize and blue debut. He completed 66.7 percent of his passes, with 227 yards, one interception and a 123.6 QBR. While those numbers won't "wow" you, they're efficient for a quarterback with pressure to perform behind a struggling line."


https://www.google.com/amp/s/gbmwolverine.com/2018/09/04/michigan-football-unpopular-take-wolverines-alright/amp/

Yup I was at that game. I see Harbaugh and Whittingham about the same truthfully. Neither is going to win jack s**t unless they get out of their stubborn everything revolves around the defense mentality.

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Maybe this isn't the best time to post this in here.

For those of you who still have nightmares about the #49ers awful play calling in the final minutes of Super Bowl 47, it turns out Joe Staley shares your pain. He still shudders when he hears the call "Q8." https://t.co/LvgjpOju5m

— Niners Nation (@NinersNation) September 6, 2018

As an armchair coach, you have to wonder what the 49ers were thinking in the final plays of Super Bowl 47—especially the coaches. Turns out, the players were wondering the same thing with that blunder. If anything, this interview gives me some closure.

Well in the end the Harbaugh haters got what they wanted. More Baalke and less Harbaugh...

More "Steve Kerr" less competition..

Are you being serious, or just trying to throw barbs back at a different opinion than your own? Do you really think anybody that feels the coaching staff blew the end of that super bowl is a Harbaugh hater and wanted more Baalke and less Harbaugh?

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Ouch. That's not a good sign for his offense. Ideally you'd want a Chuck Muncie type of back that can run very well and also catch passes (Harbaugh's Stepfan Taylor at Stanford is another example). How is the Tight end situation?

Zach Gentry caught 17 passes for 303 yards and 2 touchdowns in 2017.
'The sky's the limit' for Michigan's tight ends in 2018

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.landof10.com/michigan/michigan-football-tight-ends-zach-gentry-sean-mckeon-sherrone-moore/amp

Pretty much loaded in regards to the Tight End position. Gentry, Mckeon and Eubanks.

Good to hear the tight end is a strong position. So offensively, Harbaugh's weak on outside receiver speed and his running backs aren't the types that can scare defenses. We'll see if his offense finds players to fill what the offense needs this year. Not worried about Harbaugh's defenses - they will always be consistently good. Offense hopefully shouldn't be a problem if players step up and produce. We shall see...

Originally posted by TheRambler:

Lol, this deflection is growing weaker over time as it becomes clear Harbaugh was not the deity some made him out to be.

Just because keeping Baalke and hiring Tomsula were the wrong decisions doesn't mean firing Harbaugh was wrong.

Sure it does. When you go thru 3 coaches in 3 years because Yorkie believed the GM was a deity you're probably better off letting the coach who got to 3 conference finals tie his own noose.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Ouch. That's not a good sign for his offense. Ideally you'd want a Chuck Muncie type of back that can run very well and also catch passes (Harbaugh's Stepfan Taylor at Stanford is another example). How is the Tight end situation?

He whiffed on Kareem Walker who was suppose to be a top back. Surprising that UM doesn't have multiple options therr with their history and a coach who prioritize power running

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Ouch. That's not a good sign for his offense. Ideally you'd want a Chuck Muncie type of back that can run very well and also catch passes (Harbaugh's Stepfan Taylor at Stanford is another example). How is the Tight end situation?

He whiffed on Kareem Walker who was suppose to be a top back. Surprising that UM doesn't have multiple options therr with their history and a coach who prioritize power running

Actually Kareem Walker whiffed on himself.. Academically he fell behind and never caught up.

Karaan Higdon and Evans are better running backs.

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Are you being serious, or just trying to throw barbs back at a different opinion than your own? Do you really think anybody that feels the coaching staff blew the end of that super bowl is a Harbaugh hater and wanted more Baalke and less Harbaugh?

There was alot of people including this front office who wanted him gone and thought he was the problem.

I remember.... Jed tweeted after the Seattle game, we tried trading him to Cleveland in that offseason.. The baalke beef between them, the steve kerr comment..

Of course I believe the truth... Why wouldn't I with the chain of events that lead to firing him??