Jim Harbaugh Thread - HC Chargers

Originally posted by SFGiant49ers:

Lol. Where in this thread in the midst of the hundreds of articles, tweets, and rants rambling on and on and all saying pretty much the same thing did anyone say they were loyal to Baalke?

I must have missed it. People are just criticizing someone for filling these pages with article after article, and tweet after tweet, making it somewhat annoying to try and read through this thread. Just because people don't like all the spamming, that somehow means they love Trent Baalke? Lol.

Wu--you keep repeating yourself post after post after post with mostly the same stuff. We get it, you are absolutely obsessed with Michigan football and Jim Harbaugh, and that's cool. But the way your posts are coming across definitely looks like spamming and it is annoying some people. Has nothing to do with any narrative about Baalke and/or Harbaugh

Yet you fail to mention, where I'm suppose to think that doesn't affect our super bowl or wouldn't when asked the question. Sorry I rebuttal narratives with facts.

If you think it all came down to one play. That's fine. Just don't expect or get offended when the tweets, rants are facts.. If posters can get snarky and mock. I can rebuttal with facts. Don't get offended by facts..

When did facts become bias? 0-69 and I'm supposed to believe that wasn't a factor in the Super Bowl?

False Narrative. If you don't like the facts. Save the funny replies for someone else who will fall for it. I see the games and the spinning.

Because I for sure damn won't. Stop trying to make it about tweets and not about the facts.. More spinning..

To Who ever thinks 0-69 doesn't affect a super bowl..

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Is Harbaugh trying to incorporate the spread into his pro-style offense? I found an interesting article that hints that this may be what is happening. Apparently Shea was a spread QB at Ole Miss.

Up in Michigan, Jim Harbaugh made two rather substantial additions to the Michigan football program this offseason who's impact on the 2018 season are probably not very commonly understood. The first and obvious one is former five-star QB Shea Patterson of Ole Miss, who was recently named the starter for week one. Patterson threw for 2259 yards and 17 TDs a year ago at Ole Miss before suffering an injury and ultimately transferring from the wreckage. With Wilton Speight grad transferring to UCLA the competition was essentially between Patterson and Michigan recruit Brandon Peters who threw for 672 yards last year as a sophomore before Wisconsin's pass rush knocked him out till the bowl game.

The other big addition was OL coach Ed Warriner, who Harbaugh pulled from Minnesota where Warriner had turned up on a life raft after Urban Meyer overhauled his offensive staff in light of the 31-0 fiasco against Clemson. Between these two coaches there is some potential for Michigan to explore a fusion of spread football with the "neanderball" approach they took in the first three years of the Harbaugh era.
https://www.footballstudyhall.com/2018/8/27/17766048/what-could-a-jim-harbaugh-spread-offense-look-like-shea-patterson

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Well they came out vs ND in 3 wide shotgun. I'd say it's more a RPO than spreed but yes it's a different offense when Shea is the QB.

I agree. My rudamentary understanding of the spread - is it's a derivitive simplification of the West Coast Offense. It's a pass first offense in some cases, and it's a run first offense in others - with the run first offense integrating the QB runs into the offense. Harbaugh did a lot of that in San Francisco, and so I can see his vertical offense becomming a bit more horizontal. But that would be big if Shea started running as well as passing.

Personally, Harbaugh has won a lot of games using the pro-style and while I can see him modifying it by incorporating the shotgun and QB runs a bit more, I don't see him radically changing his offense to go toe ot toe with Urban Meyer.

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
"Ambry Thomas could be weapon on Michigan offense"

"Ann Arbor — Ambry Thomas, Michigan's reserve cornerback and kick returner who dazzled in the season opener with a 99-yard kickoff return for a touchdown, is considered to be among the fastest players on the team, if not the fastest.

"Running back Karan Higdon raved about Thomas' speed during Big Ten media days, saying he is the fastest player on the team and has posted a 4.3 in the 40-yard dash. Receiver Nico Collins' face brightened this week when asked about Thomas' speed as he reiterated what Higdon said."

Michigan receivers coach Jim McElwain was asked this week if Thomas has worked with the position group.

"Yeah, he's worked before," he said.

This week?

"Let's go pin that on the Western board," McElwain said, laughing as he pretended to post something on a board."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.detroitnews.com/amp/1227807002

If that Cornerback has some hands, he'd be perfect for Harbaugh's vertical offense as a WR.

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Originally posted by SFGiant49ers:

Lol. Where in this thread in the midst of the hundreds of articles, tweets, and rants rambling on and on and all saying pretty much the same thing did anyone say they were loyal to Baalke?

I must have missed it. People are just criticizing someone for filling these pages with article after article, and tweet after tweet, making it somewhat annoying to try and read through this thread. Just because people don't like all the spamming, that somehow means they love Trent Baalke? Lol.

Wu--you keep repeating yourself post after post after post with mostly the same stuff. We get it, you are absolutely obsessed with Michigan football and Jim Harbaugh, and that's cool. But the way your posts are coming across definitely looks like spamming and it is annoying some people. Has nothing to do with any narrative about Baalke and/or Harbaugh

Yet you fail to mention, where I'm suppose to think that doesn't affect our super bowl or wouldn't when asked the question. Sorry I rebuttal narratives with facts.

If you think it all came down to one play. That's fine. Just don't expect or get offended when the tweets, rants are facts.. If posters can get snarky and mock. I can rebuttal with facts. Don't get offended by facts..

When did facts become bias? 0-69 and I'm supposed to believe that wasn't a factor in the Super Bowl?

False Narrative. If you don't like the facts. Save the funny replies for someone else who will fall for it. I see the games and the spinning.

Because I for sure damn won't. Stop trying to make it about tweets and not about the facts.. More spinning..

To Who ever thinks 0-69 doesn't affect a super bowl..

You just helped prove my point. More repeating the same thing time after time. Who in this thread said "0-69 doesn't affect a super bowl" besides you a million times? At this point it's obvious that Baalke sucked. We all know that.

But, in 2012 we already had a stacked roster that should have won the super bowl if not for some ridiculous playcalling in the final minute or 2. 1st and goal from inside the 10, and they do the same dumb play 3 times in a row? That wasn't Baalke's fault. By 2012, the lack of success in the draft didn't have much of an impact yet because the roster was already stacked. In the following years (2014-present) specifically is where the draft failures are really hurting us, thanks to the former GM.

But this discussion isn't even about that. It's about you being super repetitive in this thread and filling each page with page-long posts making it difficult to read. I'm sure you're gonna reply to me by saying something about "spinning and 0-69 in the draft" and some other random stuff. Then you'll edit the post and add some more random sentences and emojis. I'll be waiting...

Originally posted by SFGiant49ers:

You just helped prove my point. More repeating the same thing time after time. Who in this thread said "0-69 doesn't affect a super bowl" besides you a million times? At this point it's obvious that Baalke sucked. We all know that.

But, in 2012 we already had a stacked roster that should have won the super bowl if not for some ridiculous playcalling in the final minute or 2. 1st and goal from inside the 10, and they do the same dumb play 3 times in a row? That wasn't Baalke's fault. By 2012, the lack of success in the draft didn't have much of an impact yet because the roster was already stacked. In the following years (2014-present) specifically is where the draft failures are really hurting us, thanks to the former GM.

But this discussion isn't even about that. It's about you being super repetitive in this thread and filling each page with page-long posts making it difficult to read. I'm sure you're gonna reply to me by saying something about "spinning and 0-69 in the draft" and some other random stuff. Then you'll edit the post and add some more random sentences and emojis. I'll be waiting...

More deflection..

I said along time ago agree to disagree.. Our defense gave up 30 points to the Falcons... The defense gave up 30 points in the Super Bowl. No bench hurts you no matter how much you try to blame everything on one series or play.. Put's a coach in a tough position. The defense failed us..

The defense was our pride and joy and not have a bench, drafting injured players and living off someone elses draft hurt us..

Keep deflecting and protecting baalke.. False Narratives.. Justin Smith playing with one arm. Tank Carradine relaxing in the bench... Still waiting... Yet not talking about someone that never did anything for this organization and I'm supposed to believe the one series or one play blame.. Nah.. lol

If you think I'm supposed to believe a bench is not a part of a team... Then...

Agree to disagree...

Look decent against an equal opponent today.

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Originally posted by SFGiant49ers:

You just helped prove my point. More repeating the same thing time after time. Who in this thread said "0-69 doesn't affect a super bowl" besides you a million times? At this point it's obvious that Baalke sucked. We all know that.

But, in 2012 we already had a stacked roster that should have won the super bowl if not for some ridiculous playcalling in the final minute or 2. 1st and goal from inside the 10, and they do the same dumb play 3 times in a row? That wasn't Baalke's fault. By 2012, the lack of success in the draft didn't have much of an impact yet because the roster was already stacked. In the following years (2014-present) specifically is where the draft failures are really hurting us, thanks to the former GM.

But this discussion isn't even about that. It's about you being super repetitive in this thread and filling each page with page-long posts making it difficult to read. I'm sure you're gonna reply to me by saying something about "spinning and 0-69 in the draft" and some other random stuff. Then you'll edit the post and add some more random sentences and emojis. I'll be waiting...

More deflection..

I said along time ago agree to disagree.. Our defense gave up 30 points to the Falcons... The defense gave up 30 points in the Super Bowl. No bench hurts you no matter how much you try to blame everything on one series or play..

The defense was our pride and and joy and not have a bench, drafting injured players and living off someone elses draft hurt us..

Keep deflecting and protecting baalke.. False Narratives.. Justin Smith playing with one arm. Tank Carradine relaxing in the bench... Still waiting... Yet not talking about someone that never did anything for this organization and I'm supposed to believe the one series or one play blame.. Nah.. lol

Agree to disagree...

Lol ok. I'm sure Baalke could have drafted an entire defense in 1 or 2 drafts that would have all been pro bowlers and would have saved us in the super bowl.

I'm not even trying to debate that. You keep going back to that for some reason. I already said we all know Baalke sucked ass. But with all that being said, we still should have won the super bowl, if there was even an ounce of creativity in that final sequence at the f*cking goal line. That sequence falls on the shoulders of Harbaugh and Roman for failing to call 1 good play.

But again, my original post wasn't about any of this. It was about you spamming the thread with tweets every second, and obviously it's annoying other ppl too. Stoney was right, you're impossible to debate with.

For the record, I think Baalke sucked and they should have kept Harbaugh and allowed him to get a new offensive coordinator. Now please make another post about how I'm defending Baalke and stuff

Originally posted by SFGiant49ers:

Lol ok. I'm sure Baalke could have drafted an entire defense in 1 or 2 drafts that would have all been pro bowlers and would have saved us in the super bowl.

I'm not even trying to debate that. You keep going back to that for some reason. I already said we all know Baalke sucked ass. But with all that being said, we still should have won the super bowl, if there was even an ounce of creativity in that final sequence at the f*cking goal line. That sequence falls on the shoulders of Harbaugh and Roman for failing to call 1 good play.

But again, my original post wasn't about any of this. It was about you spamming the thread with tweets every second, and obviously it's annoying other ppl too. Stoney was right, you're impossible to debate with.

For the record, I think Baalke sucked and they should have kept Harbaugh and allowed him to get a new offensive coordinator. Now please make another post about how I'm defending Baalke and stuff

You're sarcasm in the beginning says it all.... Then my tweets are to blame.. So is that an excuse for 0-69?? If you want to disregard or ignore how much hate Harbaugh receives from our fan base.

Til this day he doesn't get the credit he deserved around here.. If you want to make it about my tweets and less about the topic than ok. You win I lose..

It was all Harbaugh's fault whatever you say and not the guys conspiring for his job.. Sure.....

Originally posted by Jiks:

Look decent against an equal opponent today.

21 points in the 1st quarter compared to 0.

Equal huh. But Wu's tweets are to blame... 😂

That second d-line looks stout.

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

You're sarcasm in the beginning says it all.... Then my tweets are to blame.. So is that an excuse for 0-69?? If you want to disregard or ignore how much hate Harbaugh receives from our fan base.

Til this day he doesn't get the credit he deserved around here.. If you want to make it about my tweets and less about the topic than ok. You win I lose..

It was all Harbaugh's fault whatever you say and not the guys conspiring for his job.. Sure.....

I do blame Baalke for the fact that our roster fell to one of the worst in the league in recent years.

But in the specific case of that super bowl, the guys calling the plays deserve more criticism IMO. I think it's unrealistic to expect Baalke to have drafted a defense full of studs who were either rookies or 2 year players by 2012 who would have saved us in that super bowl. Either way it doesn't matter. The defense did fail us in that game, but even with that, we could have won if the playcallers called something different than 3 fades to the back of the end zone 3 plays in a row.

Harbaugh does deserve more credit for taking us to 3 NFCCGS and 1 super bowl in a row. It sucks all the childish drama that went on within the organization, and made this team into one of the worst in the league. And I would blame Baalke for that.

Originally posted by SFGiant49ers:

I do blame Baalke for the fact that our roster fell to one of the worst in the league in recent years.

But in the specific case of that super bowl, the guys calling the plays deserve more criticism IMO. I think it's unrealistic to expect Baalke to have drafted a defense full of studs who were either rookies or 2 year players by 2012 who would have saved us in that super bowl. Either way it doesn't matter. The defense did fail us in that game, but even with that, we could have won if the playcallers called something different than 3 fades to the back of the end zone 3 plays in a row.

Harbaugh does deserve more credit for taking us to 3 NFCCGS and 1 super bowl in a row. It sucks all the childish drama that went on within the organization, and made this team into one of the worst in the league. And I would blame Baalke for that.

Around here. An nfc championship is not an accomplishment and is frowned upon.. Yet they forget the 9-10 years Pre-Harbaugh. I choose not to. How many programs has Baalke turned around?

Success is no coincidence imho. He doesn't get enough credit when he was fighting for a super bowl and people conspiring for his job.

I just don't like that fact. You (generally speaking) can't conveniently blame the only guy that was working for us. Imho

I choose to give the guy that turns around programs the benefit of the doubt.

Especially when no coach has been successful with Baalke as GM.

Shea Patterson to Nico Collins!!!!!!

🚨 Spam 🚨

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Shea Patterson to Nico Collins!!!!!!

🚨 Spam 🚨

What a connection. #GoBlue https://t.co/j0c2CbxqMd

— Michigan Football (@UMichFootball) September 8, 2018

Nice! And off the play action too.

Originally posted by SFGiant49ers:

I do blame Baalke for the fact that our roster fell to one of the worst in the league in recent years.

But in the specific case of that super bowl, the guys calling the plays deserve more criticism IMO. I think it's unrealistic to expect Baalke to have drafted a defense full of studs who were either rookies or 2 year players by 2012 who would have saved us in that super bowl. Either way it doesn't matter. The defense did fail us in that game, but even with that, we could have won if the playcallers called something different than 3 fades to the back of the end zone 3 plays in a row.

Harbaugh does deserve more credit for taking us to 3 NFCCGS and 1 super bowl in a row. It sucks all the childish drama that went on within the organization, and made this team into one of the worst in the league. And I would blame Baalke for that.

I'm just trying to figure out how it's Baalke's fault we ran 4 retarded plays inside the goal line at the end of the super bowl. (Not to mention the needless timeout when we had the winning play about to go off)

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Shea Patterson to Nico Collins!!!!!!

🚨 Spam 🚨

What a connection. #GoBlue https://t.co/j0c2CbxqMd

— Michigan Football (@UMichFootball) September 8, 2018

So all it takes for Michigan to win games is to play high school equivalent teams. Yaaaaah!!!