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Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I'll just put it this way:

CK with JH: 25-14
CK without JH: 3-16

case, closed.

KRAP was propped up by Harbaugh magic.


It just blows me away that posters like you stan for QBs like Jimmy and Alex Smith when Kaepernick was arguably BETTER than both of them. What isnt arguable is that he at the very least is on the same level as both of them. Yet you call him crap. SMH.

None of those are as good as Brock_STAR. All sub par compared to that.

I am by no means a Jimmy lover or a Kap hater…but Jimmy just flat out was better at playing the quarterback position. At least from the pocket.

I think this could be debated, but I'm not gonna be the one to waste time doing it lol..
Kap was a better athlete with a stronger arm and better running ability. Smith and JG were better at actually playing and understanding the position. It's like the difference between Fields and Brock Purdy. People say the Kap was black balled but the truth is he wasn't a good QB. After his initial season the league figured him out. He was never consistently accurate and often got lost in the pocket.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Kap was a better athlete with a stronger arm and better running ability. Smith and JG were better at actually playing and understanding the position. It's like the difference between Fields and Brock Purdy. People say the Kap was black balled but the truth is he wasn't a good QB. After his initial season the league figured him out. He was never consistently accurate and often got lost in the pocket.
they all had different strengths and weakness, but they all shared the same biggest weakness, Processing pre/post snap.
Originally posted by ninerjok:
Anyone catch Keyshawn Johnson starting up a so-called Kaepernick watch for the Chargers on his TV show yesterday? He's super obsessed Kap needs to be their new backup QB. He knows he's like 35 and hasn't played for 8 years right?

Would make little sense at this point.

Why Harbaugh needs a good GM to dissuade him from stupid moves.
[ Edited by 9ers4eva on Jan 26, 2024 at 8:50 AM ]
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Kap was a better athlete with a stronger arm and better running ability. Smith and JG were better at actually playing and understanding the position. It's like the difference between Fields and Brock Purdy. People say the Kap was black balled but the truth is he wasn't a good QB. After his initial season the league figured him out. He was never consistently accurate and often got lost in the pocket.
they all had different strengths and weakness, but they all shared the same biggest weakness, Processing pre/post snap.

Alex was actually much better than his early record would suggest. He suffered from playing on a team wth little talent around him, bad coaches and constant coaching changes. Once Harbaugh got there he played much better. When he was traded to KC Reid turned him into an even better QB. Harbaugh was intrigued by Kap's athleticism and traded Smith which was probably a mistake.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Alex was actually much better than his early record would suggest. He suffered from playing on a team wth little talent around him, bad coaches and constant coaching changes. Once Harbaugh got there he played much better. When he was traded to KC Reid turned him into an even better QB. Harbaugh was intrigued by Kap's athleticism and traded Smith which was probably a mistake.

Nah I don't think it was a mistake. Alex couldn't have done what Kap did in 2012. The issue was the 9ers didn't have the schematic coaching and it seems Kap didn't have the desire to make him a consistent elite player.

Why Justin Herbert could have a problem if the right offensive coaches aren't hired. A Greg Roman/Geep Chryst level combo will not do much for Herbert.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Alex was actually much better than his early record would suggest. He suffered from playing on a team wth little talent around him, bad coaches and constant coaching changes. Once Harbaugh got there he played much better. When he was traded to KC Reid turned him into an even better QB. Harbaugh was intrigued by Kap's athleticism and traded Smith which was probably a mistake.

Nah I don't think it was a mistake. Alex couldn't have done what Kap did in 2012. The issue was the 9ers didn't have the schematic coaching and it seems Kap didn't have the desire to make him a consistent elite player.

Why Justin Herbert could have a problem if the right offensive coaches aren't hired. A Greg Roman/Geep Chryst level combo will not do much for Herbert.

Alex was 6-2-1 as the Niner QB in 2012 before he got hurt His completion % was 70.2 and his passer rating was 104. Kap was 5-2 with a 62% completion % and a 98 passer rating. Alex was already the better QB but Kap flash a couple of big runs and that swayed Harbaugh. Once the league learned how to stop those big runs Kap was just another dude. He always had accuracy issues.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Alex was actually much better than his early record would suggest. He suffered from playing on a team wth little talent around him, bad coaches and constant coaching changes. Once Harbaugh got there he played much better. When he was traded to KC Reid turned him into an even better QB. Harbaugh was intrigued by Kap's athleticism and traded Smith which was probably a mistake.

Nah I don't think it was a mistake. Alex couldn't have done what Kap did in 2012. The issue was the 9ers didn't have the schematic coaching and it seems Kap didn't have the desire to make him a consistent elite player.

Why Justin Herbert could have a problem if the right offensive coaches aren't hired. A Greg Roman/Geep Chryst level combo will not do much for Herbert.

Alex was 6-2-1 as the Niner QB in 2012 before he got hurt His completion % was 70.2 and his passer rating was 104. Kap was 5-2 with a 62% completion % and a 98 passer rating. Alex was already the better QB but Kap flash a couple of big runs and that swayed Harbaugh. Once the league learned how to stop those big runs Kap was just another dude. He always had accuracy issues.
lol smith sucked ass and never passed to WRs and hardly threw a pass passed the LOS...

Our offense was pathetic with smith, our offense was dangerous with Kaep... the film is all there.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Alex was actually much better than his early record would suggest. He suffered from playing on a team wth little talent around him, bad coaches and constant coaching changes. Once Harbaugh got there he played much better. When he was traded to KC Reid turned him into an even better QB. Harbaugh was intrigued by Kap's athleticism and traded Smith which was probably a mistake.

Nah I don't think it was a mistake. Alex couldn't have done what Kap did in 2012. The issue was the 9ers didn't have the schematic coaching and it seems Kap didn't have the desire to make him a consistent elite player.

Why Justin Herbert could have a problem if the right offensive coaches aren't hired. A Greg Roman/Geep Chryst level combo will not do much for Herbert.

Alex was 6-2-1 as the Niner QB in 2012 before he got hurt His completion % was 70.2 and his passer rating was 104. Kap was 5-2 with a 62% completion % and a 98 passer rating. Alex was already the better QB but Kap flash a couple of big runs and that swayed Harbaugh. Once the league learned how to stop those big runs Kap was just another dude. He always had accuracy issues.
lol smith sucked ass and never passed to WRs and hardly threw a pass passed the LOS...

Our offense was pathetic with smith, our offense was dangerous with Kaep... the film is all there.

Was with you until you said we were dangerous with Kaep. Fools gold homie.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Alex was actually much better than his early record would suggest. He suffered from playing on a team wth little talent around him, bad coaches and constant coaching changes. Once Harbaugh got there he played much better. When he was traded to KC Reid turned him into an even better QB. Harbaugh was intrigued by Kap's athleticism and traded Smith which was probably a mistake.

Nah I don't think it was a mistake. Alex couldn't have done what Kap did in 2012. The issue was the 9ers didn't have the schematic coaching and it seems Kap didn't have the desire to make him a consistent elite player.

Why Justin Herbert could have a problem if the right offensive coaches aren't hired. A Greg Roman/Geep Chryst level combo will not do much for Herbert.

Alex was 6-2-1 as the Niner QB in 2012 before he got hurt His completion % was 70.2 and his passer rating was 104. Kap was 5-2 with a 62% completion % and a 98 passer rating. Alex was already the better QB but Kap flash a couple of big runs and that swayed Harbaugh. Once the league learned how to stop those big runs Kap was just another dude. He always had accuracy issues.
lol smith sucked ass and never passed to WRs and hardly threw a pass passed the LOS...

Our offense was pathetic with smith, our offense was dangerous with Kaep... the film is all there.

Was with you until you said we were dangerous with Kaep. Fools gold homie.
care to prove it... doubt you will ..probably spin it with win% or some BS (you must have forgotten that 49ers vs Pats vid you used earlier)

There is no way anyone can argue Smith's lead offense from 2011-2012 is close to being the Kaep lead offense of 2012-2013
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Alex was actually much better than his early record would suggest. He suffered from playing on a team wth little talent around him, bad coaches and constant coaching changes. Once Harbaugh got there he played much better. When he was traded to KC Reid turned him into an even better QB. Harbaugh was intrigued by Kap's athleticism and traded Smith which was probably a mistake.

Nah I don't think it was a mistake. Alex couldn't have done what Kap did in 2012. The issue was the 9ers didn't have the schematic coaching and it seems Kap didn't have the desire to make him a consistent elite player.

Why Justin Herbert could have a problem if the right offensive coaches aren't hired. A Greg Roman/Geep Chryst level combo will not do much for Herbert.

Alex was 6-2-1 as the Niner QB in 2012 before he got hurt His completion % was 70.2 and his passer rating was 104. Kap was 5-2 with a 62% completion % and a 98 passer rating. Alex was already the better QB but Kap flash a couple of big runs and that swayed Harbaugh. Once the league learned how to stop those big runs Kap was just another dude. He always had accuracy issues.
lol smith sucked ass and never passed to WRs and hardly threw a pass passed the LOS...

Our offense was pathetic with smith, our offense was dangerous with Kaep... the film is all there.

Was with you until you said we were dangerous with Kaep. Fools gold homie.
care to prove it... doubt you will ..probably spin it with win% or some BS (you must have forgotten that 49ers vs Pats vid you used earlier)

There is no way anyone can argue Smith's lead offense from 2011-2012 is close to being the Kaep lead offense of 2012-2013

What's there to prove? He was on fire, same year RG3 was. How did it go for ol Robert? That stuff ran its course, and by early to mid 2013, those guys were toast. By the NFC Champ he had 3 turnovers on 3 4th quarter possessions. Maybe the biggest meltdown in SF history and we got to watch Sherm trash us to our faces. He proceeded to suck balls from there on in.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Alex was actually much better than his early record would suggest. He suffered from playing on a team wth little talent around him, bad coaches and constant coaching changes. Once Harbaugh got there he played much better. When he was traded to KC Reid turned him into an even better QB. Harbaugh was intrigued by Kap's athleticism and traded Smith which was probably a mistake.

Nah I don't think it was a mistake. Alex couldn't have done what Kap did in 2012. The issue was the 9ers didn't have the schematic coaching and it seems Kap didn't have the desire to make him a consistent elite player.

Why Justin Herbert could have a problem if the right offensive coaches aren't hired. A Greg Roman/Geep Chryst level combo will not do much for Herbert.

Alex was 6-2-1 as the Niner QB in 2012 before he got hurt His completion % was 70.2 and his passer rating was 104. Kap was 5-2 with a 62% completion % and a 98 passer rating. Alex was already the better QB but Kap flash a couple of big runs and that swayed Harbaugh. Once the league learned how to stop those big runs Kap was just another dude. He always had accuracy issues.
lol smith sucked ass and never passed to WRs and hardly threw a pass passed the LOS...

Our offense was pathetic with smith, our offense was dangerous with Kaep... the film is all there.

Was with you until you said we were dangerous with Kaep. Fools gold homie.
care to prove it... doubt you will ..probably spin it with win% or some BS (you must have forgotten that 49ers vs Pats vid you used earlier)

There is no way anyone can argue Smith's lead offense from 2011-2012 is close to being the Kaep lead offense of 2012-2013

What's there to prove? He was on fire, same year RG3 was. How did it go for ol Robert? That stuff ran its course, and by early to mid 2013, those guys were toast. By the NFC Champ he had 3 turnovers on 3 4th quarter possessions. Maybe the biggest meltdown in SF history and we got to watch Sherm trash us to our faces. He proceeded to suck balls from there on in.

Kap was great for that year and half. Then he stopped caring about football. Never got better and his mind was on social issues, which I have no problem with, he found a different calling.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Kap was a better athlete with a stronger arm and better running ability. Smith and JG were better at actually playing and understanding the position. It's like the difference between Fields and Brock Purdy. People say the Kap was black balled but the truth is he wasn't a good QB. After his initial season the league figured him out. He was never consistently accurate and often got lost in the pocket.

That's why the Fields Hot Takes instead of Brock_STAR are so ridiculous.
[ Edited by SanDiego49er on Jan 26, 2024 at 10:05 AM ]
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
What's there to prove? He was on fire, same year RG3 was. How did it go for ol Robert? That stuff ran its course, and by early to mid 2013, those guys were toast. By the NFC Champ he had 3 turnovers on 3 4th quarter possessions. Maybe the biggest meltdown in SF history and we got to watch Sherm trash us to our faces. He proceeded to suck balls from there on in.

It was fools gold. Offense was poor schematically and Kap struggled to learn to read defenses. Having a fade pass against Sherman even in the playsheet shows how out of their depth Roman and co. were.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Alex was actually much better than his early record would suggest. He suffered from playing on a team wth little talent around him, bad coaches and constant coaching changes. Once Harbaugh got there he played much better. When he was traded to KC Reid turned him into an even better QB. Harbaugh was intrigued by Kap's athleticism and traded Smith which was probably a mistake.

Nah I don't think it was a mistake. Alex couldn't have done what Kap did in 2012. The issue was the 9ers didn't have the schematic coaching and it seems Kap didn't have the desire to make him a consistent elite player.

Why Justin Herbert could have a problem if the right offensive coaches aren't hired. A Greg Roman/Geep Chryst level combo will not do much for Herbert.

Alex was 6-2-1 as the Niner QB in 2012 before he got hurt His completion % was 70.2 and his passer rating was 104. Kap was 5-2 with a 62% completion % and a 98 passer rating. Alex was already the better QB but Kap flash a couple of big runs and that swayed Harbaugh. Once the league learned how to stop those big runs Kap was just another dude. He always had accuracy issues.
lol smith sucked ass and never passed to WRs and hardly threw a pass passed the LOS...

Our offense was pathetic with smith, our offense was dangerous with Kaep... the film is all there.

Was with you until you said we were dangerous with Kaep. Fools gold homie.
care to prove it... doubt you will ..probably spin it with win% or some BS (you must have forgotten that 49ers vs Pats vid you used earlier)

There is no way anyone can argue Smith's lead offense from 2011-2012 is close to being the Kaep lead offense of 2012-2013

What's there to prove? He was on fire, same year RG3 was. How did it go for ol Robert? That stuff ran its course, and by early to mid 2013, those guys were toast. By the NFC Champ he had 3 turnovers on 3 4th quarter possessions. Maybe the biggest meltdown in SF history and we got to watch Sherm trash us to our faces. He proceeded to suck balls from there on in.
RG3 and one playoff game is irrelevant to what was said, nice spin
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