Jim Harbaugh Thread - HC Chargers

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Originally posted by GorefullBore:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
back in the NFL again?? do we face the Chargers next year?

Not until 2026 in L.A.

https://fbschedules.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/

pre season?

Preseason with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind, he'll play all his ones, try to hang 73 on Jed

They don't play super often. Probably the Chargers are a little better by 2026. They still have to build out some things and draft some stuff there.

Preseason they will face off most likely, Jed will be asking what Harbaugh's deal is, on X
JH going for 2 with Herbert in the game in the 4th

Damn this thread goes way back. Reading those first ten pages brings back memories.

I was a big fan of Jim Harbaugh. His biggest mistakes was Kaepernick and butting heads with York, but I think his teams were dominant in that 3-4 year run he had…

Originally posted by Ruixx:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I'll just put it this way:

CK with JH: 25-14
CK without JH: 3-16

case, closed.

KRAP was propped up by Harbaugh magic.

It just blows me away that posters like you stan for QBs like Jimmy and Alex Smith when Kaepernick was arguably BETTER than both of them. What isnt arguable is that he at the very least is on the same level as both of them. Yet you call him crap. SMH.

None of those are as good as Brock_STAR. All sub par compared to that.

Cool. Has nothing to do with what we were discussing.

I think (at least for me) Niners fans are just esp. salty about Kaep because he seemed like the next big thing when he started, I was to the moon excited- those games were electric (that Niners/Packers game, my god). Then he just stopped caring about football, stopped trying to get better, he didn't work hard. Falling off while talented and not even trying, it's a gut check. Esp. considering that with Alex, for all his limitations, the kid tried hard and loved football. It just was a sucky situation all around and why we still talk about it a decade later.

Cant agree with stop trying to get better. He was a workout warrior, so much that I think Harbaugh cautioned him about his workouts- it wasn't what was needed, which I agree with. He did some work in the offseaaon with Kurt Warner in 2016, but that was going to be a multi-year project. The bullets started flying in the regular season and he reverted back to old habits. He needed a strong offensive mind and QB developer around him, along with a personal QB Coach.

Originally posted by DrEll:
Damn this thread goes way back. Reading those first ten pages brings back memories.

I was a big fan of Jim Harbaugh. His biggest mistakes was Kaepernick and butting heads with York, but I think his teams were dominant in that 3-4 year run he had…

I been rereading this thread and enjoying it. A lot of good memories till the 2014 browns trade rumor. Whoever floated that info out(baalke by Jed) really torpedoed our season.

Originally posted by DrEll:
Damn this thread goes way back. Reading those first ten pages brings back memories.

I was a big fan of Jim Harbaugh. His biggest mistakes was Kaepernick and butting heads with York, but I think his teams were dominant in that 3-4 year run he had…

If you are referring to the decision to even draft Kaep, you can't lay that one on Harbaugh. In fact, that may have been the start of the friction between Baalke and Harbaugh. Baalke ran the draft. Baalke selected the players. I don't think Harbaugh had any control or say in that matter and Baalke wasn't going to allow it. So, it was up to Harbaugh to design an offense that took advantage of Kaep's skills. His skill set was, obviously, running the football.

At first, it worked. Until NFL defenses figured out that most of Kaep's passes were wounded ducks. That really became apparent after Harbaugh was forced out and the bad times started.

Originally posted by billbird2111:
If you are referring to the decision to even draft Kaep, you can't lay that one on Harbaugh. In fact, that may have been the start of the friction between Baalke and Harbaugh. Baalke ran the draft. Baalke selected the players. I don't think Harbaugh had any control or say in that matter and Baalke wasn't going to allow it. So, it was up to Harbaugh to design an offense that took advantage of Kaep's skills. His skill set was, obviously, running the football.

At first, it worked. Until NFL defenses figured out that most of Kaep's passes were wounded ducks. That really became apparent after Harbaugh was forced out and the bad times started.

That's correct.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by billbird2111:
If you are referring to the decision to even draft Kaep, you can't lay that one on Harbaugh. In fact, that may have been the start of the friction between Baalke and Harbaugh. Baalke ran the draft. Baalke selected the players. I don't think Harbaugh had any control or say in that matter and Baalke wasn't going to allow it. So, it was up to Harbaugh to design an offense that took advantage of Kaep's skills. His skill set was, obviously, running the football.

At first, it worked. Until NFL defenses figured out that most of Kaep's passes were wounded ducks. That really became apparent after Harbaugh was forced out and the bad times started.

That's correct.

actually it's not. JH wanted Kaep and he still loves Kaep today

https://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2013/02/01/colin-kaepernick-2011-draft-jim-harbaugh-jack-coaches-show/1885181/

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by billbird2111:
If you are referring to the decision to even draft Kaep, you can't lay that one on Harbaugh. In fact, that may have been the start of the friction between Baalke and Harbaugh. Baalke ran the draft. Baalke selected the players. I don't think Harbaugh had any control or say in that matter and Baalke wasn't going to allow it. So, it was up to Harbaugh to design an offense that took advantage of Kaep's skills. His skill set was, obviously, running the football.

At first, it worked. Until NFL defenses figured out that most of Kaep's passes were wounded ducks. That really became apparent after Harbaugh was forced out and the bad times started.

That's correct.

actually it's not. JH wanted Kaep and he still loves Kaep today

https://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2013/02/01/colin-kaepernick-2011-draft-jim-harbaugh-jack-coaches-show/1885181/

KRAP was a Baalke pick. He's not going to talk bad about a guy who played for him He's not that low. Not that much lack of class. Who would do that? Not a winner like Jim Harbaugh.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by billbird2111:
If you are referring to the decision to even draft Kaep, you can't lay that one on Harbaugh. In fact, that may have been the start of the friction between Baalke and Harbaugh. Baalke ran the draft. Baalke selected the players. I don't think Harbaugh had any control or say in that matter and Baalke wasn't going to allow it. So, it was up to Harbaugh to design an offense that took advantage of Kaep's skills. His skill set was, obviously, running the football.

At first, it worked. Until NFL defenses figured out that most of Kaep's passes were wounded ducks. That really became apparent after Harbaugh was forced out and the bad times started.

That's correct.

actually it's not. JH wanted Kaep and he still loves Kaep today

https://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2013/02/01/colin-kaepernick-2011-draft-jim-harbaugh-jack-coaches-show/1885181/

KRAP was a Baalke pick. He's not going to talk bad about a guy who played for him He's not that low. Not that much lack of class. Who would do that? Not a winner like Jim Harbaugh.

did you even read the link lol

Harbaugh tied to Kaep forever... because he drafted him

https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news/colin-kaepernick-sign-replace-dallas-cowboys-kellen-moore-jim-harbaugh-chargers-staff

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
KRAP was a Baalke pick. He's not going to talk bad about a guy who played for him He's not that low. Not that much lack of class. Who would do that? Not a winner like Jim Harbaugh.

If I recall correctly Baalke wanted Dalton, JH wanted Kap.

Originally posted by billbird2111:

Originally posted by DrEll:
Damn this thread goes way back. Reading those first ten pages brings back memories.

I was a big fan of Jim Harbaugh. His biggest mistakes was Kaepernick and butting heads with York, but I think his teams were dominant in that 3-4 year run he had…

If you are referring to the decision to even draft Kaep, you can't lay that one on Harbaugh. In fact, that may have been the start of the friction between Baalke and Harbaugh. Baalke ran the draft. Baalke selected the players. I don't think Harbaugh had any control or say in that matter and Baalke wasn't going to allow it. So, it was up to Harbaugh to design an offense that took advantage of Kaep's skills. His skill set was, obviously, running the football.

At first, it worked. Until NFL defenses figured out that most of Kaep's passes were wounded ducks. That really became apparent after Harbaugh was forced out and the bad times started.

Still blows my mind that people run with the idea that Kap's offense was "figured out by the league."

NFL teams literally run the RPO every single weekend. It hasn't been figured out. It's a staple of NFL offenses.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by billbird2111:
If you are referring to the decision to even draft Kaep, you can't lay that one on Harbaugh. In fact, that may have been the start of the friction between Baalke and Harbaugh. Baalke ran the draft. Baalke selected the players. I don't think Harbaugh had any control or say in that matter and Baalke wasn't going to allow it. So, it was up to Harbaugh to design an offense that took advantage of Kaep's skills. His skill set was, obviously, running the football.

At first, it worked. Until NFL defenses figured out that most of Kaep's passes were wounded ducks. That really became apparent after Harbaugh was forced out and the bad times started.

That's correct.

actually it's not. JH wanted Kaep and he still loves Kaep today

https://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2013/02/01/colin-kaepernick-2011-draft-jim-harbaugh-jack-coaches-show/1885181/

KRAP was a Baalke pick. He's not going to talk bad about a guy who played for him He's not that low. Not that much lack of class. Who would do that? Not a winner like Jim Harbaugh.

did you even read the link lol

Doesnt read, posts nonsense, etc. He's going back on ignore. I'm done.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by billbird2111:

Originally posted by DrEll:
Damn this thread goes way back. Reading those first ten pages brings back memories.

I was a big fan of Jim Harbaugh. His biggest mistakes was Kaepernick and butting heads with York, but I think his teams were dominant in that 3-4 year run he had…

If you are referring to the decision to even draft Kaep, you can't lay that one on Harbaugh. In fact, that may have been the start of the friction between Baalke and Harbaugh. Baalke ran the draft. Baalke selected the players. I don't think Harbaugh had any control or say in that matter and Baalke wasn't going to allow it. So, it was up to Harbaugh to design an offense that took advantage of Kaep's skills. His skill set was, obviously, running the football.

At first, it worked. Until NFL defenses figured out that most of Kaep's passes were wounded ducks. That really became apparent after Harbaugh was forced out and the bad times started.

Still blows my mind that people run with the idea that Kap's offense was "figured out by the league."

NFL teams literally run the RPO every single weekend. It hasn't been figured out. It's a staple of NFL offenses.

Kap was figured out by the league not necessarily the offense, although Greg Roman ran a hilariously simplistic pass offense both in SF and later in Baltimore.

Kap was a 1 read and go QB who had a terrible habit of locking onto receivers and an inability to go through progressions, and even worse he was unwilling to put in the work needed to improve in that area. He was a really good player for us for a couple years, but once the league caught up to him it was over.

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