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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Crown:
To most people here Harbaugh is a deity.
I have always thought his offenses are boring and unimaginative.

Flame me all you want.

Jim's best trait is his eye for DCs who can carry his teams and hide the fact him and Roman don't know how to properly scheme the forward pass.

Yeah he's 52–25–1 in the nfl and 128–45 in college because of his DCs. Cmon
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by Crown:
To most people here Harbaugh is a deity.
I have always thought his offenses are boring and unimaginative.

Flame me all you want.

The Kap read option days were fun with Crabs, Gore and VD. Our offenses were actually pretty good contrary to what people remember. Particularly the run game. But then again ww had Gore.

How did that work against the seahawks?

That was an all time great defense and they had the better qb. Doesn't change the fact that the offense was entertaining. Remember the Saints game and the Packers game. Pure fun.
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Yeah he's 52–25–1 in the nfl and 128–45 in college because of his DCs. Cmon

His defenses are the key to everything. Even in college Michigan was generally an average passing attack.

He wins with elite defense and mediocre offense most of the time.

If he wants to win a SB he's gonna need a new OC and scheme. That simple.
[ Edited by 9ers4eva on Jan 11, 2025 at 5:40 PM ]
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
The Kap read option days were fun with Crabs, Gore and VD. Our offenses were actually pretty good contrary to what people remember. Particularly the run game. But then again ww had Gore.

It was at end of 2012 and week 1 of 2013. Then teams adjusted to what Kap did well and there was no counter. Same thing happened to the Ravens with Lamar. Roman doesn't know what he's doing in the passing gsme.
[ Edited by 9ers4eva on Jan 11, 2025 at 5:45 PM ]
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by Crown:
To most people here Harbaugh is a deity.
I have always thought his offenses are boring and unimaginative.

Flame me all you want.

The Kap read option days were fun with Crabs, Gore and VD. Our offenses were actually pretty good contrary to what people remember. Particularly the run game. But then again ww had Gore.

They were inconsistent. You always felt like we could do more. We had a dearth of WR talent in 2011. We shyt the bed in 2012. Crabtree and Boldin were good in 2013, but were too similar. And we had no Delanie Walker that year.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Yeah he's 52–25–1 in the nfl and 128–45 in college because of his DCs. Cmon

His defenses are the key to everything. Even in college Michigan was generally an average passing attack.

He wins with elite defense and mediocre offense most of the time.

If he wants to win a SB he's gonna need a new OC and scheme. That simple.

Tru but my guy Crown was saying the offense was boring. It was fun to watch at times and awful at times as well i will admit.
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by Crown:
To most people here Harbaugh is a deity.
I have always thought his offenses are boring and unimaginative.

Flame me all you want.

The Kap read option days were fun with Crabs, Gore and VD. Our offenses were actually pretty good contrary to what people remember. Particularly the run game. But then again ww had Gore.

They were inconsistent. You always felt like we could do more. We had a dearth of WR talent in 2011. We shyt the bed in 2012. Crabtree and Boldin were good in 2013, but were too similar. And we had no Delanie Walker that year.

Yeah we were stacked with talent. The main issue was qb. Kap and A Smith weren't good enough.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
His defenses are the key to everything. Even in college Michigan was generally an average passing attack.

He wins with elite defense and mediocre offense most of the time.

If he wants to win a SB he's gonna need a new OC and scheme. That simple.

Play good defense, don't turn the ball over, let the other team do something crazy.

The problem comes in when the other team doesn't do something crazy.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Yeah he's 52–25–1 in the nfl and 128–45 in college because of his DCs. Cmon

His defenses are the key to everything. Even in college Michigan was generally an average passing attack.

He wins with elite defense and mediocre offense most of the time.

If he wants to win a SB he's gonna need a new OC and scheme. That simple.

Yeah but you were implying his DC hires carry the teams as if he doesn't have anything to do with coaching the defense. He gets blamed for the bad offense but no credit for the defenses?

Making the playoffs in year one with those bums on offense is impressive.
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Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Yeah he's 52–25–1 in the nfl and 128–45 in college because of his DCs. Cmon

His defenses are the key to everything. Even in college Michigan was generally an average passing attack.

He wins with elite defense and mediocre offense most of the time.

If he wants to win a SB he's gonna need a new OC and scheme. That simple.

Tru but my guy Crown was saying the offense was boring. It was fun to watch at times and awful at times as well i will admit.

Thats fair.

I think I am just going for sum total.

For sure there were bright spots.

I just never trusted it when it mattered.
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
His defenses are the key to everything. Even in college Michigan was generally an average passing attack.

He wins with elite defense and mediocre offense most of the time.

If he wants to win a SB he's gonna need a new OC and scheme. That simple.

Play good defense, don't turn the ball over, let the other team do something crazy.

The problem comes in when the other team doesn't do something crazy.

Agree....But the top Os in the league are built on crazy now.

That old school 3 yrds and cloud of dust + D just don't cut it right now.
Originally posted by Crown:
Agree....But the top Os in the league are built on crazy now.

That old school 3 yrds and cloud of dust + D just don't cut it right now.

By crazy I meant a dumb turnover or shooting themselves in the foot somehow. Jim has trouble with his brother because John also coaches very disciplined teams that don't generally make those dumb errors.
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Crown:
Agree....But the top Os in the league are built on crazy now.

That old school 3 yrds and cloud of dust + D just don't cut it right now.

By crazy I meant a dumb turnover or shooting themselves in the foot somehow. Jim has trouble with his brother because John also coaches very disciplined teams that don't generally make those dumb errors.

Fair point.

I am no genius.

Just have never been on the Jim H train. Never really loved him during his time in the bay.
His teams play hard for sure. Offense is vanilla. D plays hard.

Loses to people that are more creative.

Baalke didnt help for sure.
The game has past him by
Let harbaugh build his team. For his first year he did really good. He needs playmakers on offense.
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