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Originally posted by AB83Rules:
I cant see Alex getting anywhere near a 5yr deal worth that much.

I wouldnt do it anyway, give him a 3yr deal worth 15M, but he isnt worth 60M.

I also think we have a shot at 1st round bye. Only tough games left are in Baltmore and the MNF game home against Pittsburgh. If we can go 1-1, and win out, we would be 14-2 for the season. I honestly think GB can go 15-1 or 16-0.

It would be an epic mistake if the Niners signed Alex to any long term deal. While he has improved from a bottom 5 qb in the league to maybe the15th or 16th best QB in the NFL. Niners still need to upgrade the position, we need someone who can be a superstar one day and not just a game manager.
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
I cant see Alex getting anywhere near a 5yr deal worth that much.

I wouldnt do it anyway, give him a 3yr deal worth 15M, but he isnt worth 60M.

I also think we have a shot at 1st round bye. Only tough games left are in Baltmore and the MNF game home against Pittsburgh. If we can go 1-1, and win out, we would be 14-2 for the season. I honestly think GB can go 15-1 or 16-0.

It would be an epic mistake if the Niners signed Alex to any long term deal. While he has improved from a bottom 5 qb in the league to maybe the15th or 16th best QB in the NFL. Niners still need to upgrade the position, we need someone who can be a superstar one day and not just a game manager.

agreed, as much as I like Alex, we are 5-1 because of our Run Game, Defense and Return Game.
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Ryan Fitzpatrick's weekly salary over the next 6 years will be $578,431. His current weekly salary is $187,941.
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
I cant see Alex getting anywhere near a 5yr deal worth that much.

I wouldnt do it anyway, give him a 3yr deal worth 15M, but he isnt worth 60M.

I also think we have a shot at 1st round bye. Only tough games left are in Baltmore and the MNF game home against Pittsburgh. If we can go 1-1, and win out, we would be 14-2 for the season. I honestly think GB can go 15-1 or 16-0.

It would be an epic mistake if the Niners signed Alex to any long term deal. While he has improved from a bottom 5 qb in the league to maybe the15th or 16th best QB in the NFL. Niners still need to upgrade the position, we need someone who can be a superstar one day and not just a game manager.

agreed, as much as I like Alex, we are 5-1 because of our Run Game, Defense and Return Game.

I don't agree. We had no run-game the first 3 weeks. Alex was THE biggest or 2nd biggest reason we won (coaches aside). PHI, Alex, DET, Alex comeback.

I would say Alex Smith has weighed in as much in our wins as has Frank Gore.


NOONE can deny 8TD to 2INTs. Any other QB throws one more INT, then we have probably one more loss.
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
I cant see Alex getting anywhere near a 5yr deal worth that much.

I wouldnt do it anyway, give him a 3yr deal worth 15M, but he isnt worth 60M.

I also think we have a shot at 1st round bye. Only tough games left are in Baltmore and the MNF game home against Pittsburgh. If we can go 1-1, and win out, we would be 14-2 for the season. I honestly think GB can go 15-1 or 16-0.

Not gonna happen
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
I cant see Alex getting anywhere near a 5yr deal worth that much.

I wouldnt do it anyway, give him a 3yr deal worth 15M, but he isnt worth 60M.

I also think we have a shot at 1st round bye. Only tough games left are in Baltmore and the MNF game home against Pittsburgh. If we can go 1-1, and win out, we would be 14-2 for the season. I honestly think GB can go 15-1 or 16-0.

It would be an epic mistake if the Niners signed Alex to any long term deal. While he has improved from a bottom 5 qb in the league to maybe the15th or 16th best QB in the NFL. Niners still need to upgrade the position, we need someone who can be a superstar one day and not just a game manager.

agreed, as much as I like Alex, we are 5-1 because of our Run Game, Defense and Return Game.

I don't agree. We had no run-game the first 3 weeks. Alex was THE biggest or 2nd biggest reason we won (coaches aside). PHI, Alex, DET, Alex comeback.

I would say Alex Smith has weighed in as much in our wins as has Frank Gore.


NOONE can deny 8TD to 2INTs. Any other QB throws one more INT, then we have probably one more loss.

This.
What was that one QB from the Jags who got sacked like every 5th drop back..Something Johnson. They pulled the trigger on that guy and over-paid for him.

Not saying this guy ain't worth it but let him go through a complete year first.
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
I cant see Alex getting anywhere near a 5yr deal worth that much.

I wouldnt do it anyway, give him a 3yr deal worth 15M, but he isnt worth 60M.

I also think we have a shot at 1st round bye. Only tough games left are in Baltmore and the MNF game home against Pittsburgh. If we can go 1-1, and win out, we would be 14-2 for the season. I honestly think GB can go 15-1 or 16-0.

Alex Smith will laugh at your 3yr/$15M deal. Talk about low-balling.
Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
I cant see Alex getting anywhere near a 5yr deal worth that much.

I wouldnt do it anyway, give him a 3yr deal worth 15M, but he isnt worth 60M.

I also think we have a shot at 1st round bye. Only tough games left are in Baltmore and the MNF game home against Pittsburgh. If we can go 1-1, and win out, we would be 14-2 for the season. I honestly think GB can go 15-1 or 16-0.

Alex Smith will laugh at your 3yr/$15M deal. Talk about low-balling.

Yes. I think the Haters (and I don't mean you AB!) have now translated their antipathy into, to be polite, rather low contract suggestions. If we had brought in a FA QB and he was pulling it together like this and playing mistake-free football as well as getting the team right behind him, everyone would be calling for a 5 year + contract towards the top end of the market. But because it is Alex, they want the team to pay him some spare change and run the contract over a few months.

Fortunately, I can't see this happening. I don't think Baalke is dumb enough to let a guy walk away who is playing to the standard Alex is. leaving us to hope that our 2nd round draft pick can translate his skills quickly into the NFL. Or hope some other team is dumb enough to let their starter go.
I don't know, it's going to be interesting with Alex.

He can claim this years success, absolutely. But teams don't look at one year. They are going to point back at his history and use that as leverage, as well they should. With all the one and done players lately, you have to be safe.

Look at the players this year who just got big new contracts, and look at their performances.

D. Williams
CJ0K
Manning (fluke, but nonetheless)
P. Hillis (Didn't get one, but was close at the beginning of the season)

Back up a year and you've got the McNabb and Haynesworth debacle. Teams have to be cautious, and they want more than one year to prove the player will be worth the money.
*Note: I'm not saying all players who get paid don't do well, just that there are enough out there to warrant skepticism by teams when negotiating.
Originally posted by Janitor:
I don't know, it's going to be interesting with Alex.

He can claim this years success, absolutely. But teams don't look at one year. They are going to point back at his history and use that as leverage, as well they should. With all the one and done players lately, you have to be safe.

Look at the players this year who just got big new contracts, and look at their performances.

D. Williams
CJ0K
Manning (fluke, but nonetheless)
P. Hillis (Didn't get one, but was close at the beginning of the season)

Back up a year and you've got the McNabb and Haynesworth debacle. Teams have to be cautious, and they want more than one year to prove the player will be worth the money.

If people looked careful at 2010 and prior years, they'd see that Smith already started his efficient QB well before 2011. He has always been a dangerous QB in the redzone, and starting with Mike Johnson as the OC, Smith has committed very few turnovers. While he has had very few 300 yard games, he was clearly capable of doing so. Smith will not appeal to coaches with little offensive background (and I'm sure he's leery of them by now), but guys like Gruden, Shanahan might be very tempted if Smith is available.
Originally posted by fastforward:
Originally posted by Janitor:
I don't know, it's going to be interesting with Alex.

He can claim this years success, absolutely. But teams don't look at one year. They are going to point back at his history and use that as leverage, as well they should. With all the one and done players lately, you have to be safe.

Look at the players this year who just got big new contracts, and look at their performances.

D. Williams
CJ0K
Manning (fluke, but nonetheless)
P. Hillis (Didn't get one, but was close at the beginning of the season)

Back up a year and you've got the McNabb and Haynesworth debacle. Teams have to be cautious, and they want more than one year to prove the player will be worth the money.

If people looked careful at 2010 and prior years, they'd see that Smith already started his efficient QB well before 2011. He has always been a dangerous QB in the redzone, and starting with Mike Johnson as the OC, Smith has committed very few turnovers. While he has had very few 300 yard games, he was clearly capable of doing so. Smith will not appeal to coaches with little offensive background (and I'm sure he's leery of them by now), but guys like Gruden, Shanahan might be very tempted if Smith is available.

True. So yeah, it'll be interesting to see how Baalke and Co. approach this.
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The 49ers have a lot of leverage with Alex's agent:

- Game manager QB

- QB developing behind him

- Will not have to learn another offensive scheme

- Starting QB unless otherwise specified

- Lives in the West Coast area; married with a kid

- Head Coach that respects him and vice versa

Even if Smith is offered more from other teams (Seahawks, Browns, etc), I think he'll take less money to return to the 49ers.
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Originally posted by AB83Rules:
I cant see Alex getting anywhere near a 5yr deal worth that much.

I wouldnt do it anyway, give him a 3yr deal worth 15M, but he isnt worth 60M.

I also think we have a shot at 1st round bye. Only tough games left are in Baltmore and the MNF game home against Pittsburgh. If we can go 1-1, and win out, we would be 14-2 for the season. I honestly think GB can go 15-1 or 16-0.
Exactly no way he's worth 60 mil.
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