Greg Roman, is he really good?

Roman needs to stop listening to Magini.

Originally posted by OregonNiner87:
Maybe, just maybe, some players are limiting their play selection and offensive philosophy.

i would agree until you see how he goes away from what works
that gives up that possibility. you're killing them on the ground so your answer is to go away from it. that type of stupidity doesn't get a pass because gore certainly isn't limiting the play calling and philosophy on top of it actually working.

who lines up in pistol against a team that actually practices against the pistol?

Originally posted by strickac:
Roman needs to stop listening to Magini.

i seriously doubt an adjustment manigni or anyone would make is to stop doing what works. and continue to do what doesn't

lol what happent to dat pistol/read-option

Maybe Sean Payton will come be our OC next year... and Brees follows

Originally posted by strickac:
Maybe Sean Payton will come be our OC next year... and Brees follows

lol in that alternate universe I am a russian billionaire that inherited my wealth from a family that struck it rich with oil and gas.

Originally posted by OregonNiner87:
Maybe, just maybe, some players are limiting their play selection and offensive philosophy.

So Frank Gore was limiting the offensive philosophy today and against Indy where they went away completely from the run in the 2nd half in spite of Gore running for over 5 yards a carry in each game?

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by OregonNiner87:
Maybe, just maybe, some players are limiting their play selection and offensive philosophy.

So Frank Gore was limiting the offensive philosophy today and against Indy where they went away completely from the run in the 2nd half in spite of Gore running for over 5 yards a carry in each game?

exactly

if kap is just a 1 read qb which is the narrative that everyone on earth is saying then why wouldn't you give him quick reads against pressure. just quick passing attack them to death? oh cause that would make too much sense huh?

Originally posted by Ballistic:
lol what happent to dat pistol/read-option

no need to run the thing at all. and especially not against a team that has practiced against it all season

neither team had pistol success today neither.

Originally posted by jonesadrian:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by OregonNiner87:
Maybe, just maybe, some players are limiting their play selection and offensive philosophy.

So Frank Gore was limiting the offensive philosophy today and against Indy where they went away completely from the run in the 2nd half in spite of Gore running for over 5 yards a carry in each game?

exactly

if kap is just a 1 read qb which is the narrative that everyone on earth is saying then why wouldn't you give him quick reads against pressure. just quick passing attack them to death? oh cause that would make too much sense huh?

Originally posted by Ballistic:
lol what happent to dat pistol/read-option

no need to run the thing at all. and especially not against a team that has practiced against it all season

neither team had pistol success today neither.

Completely agree. Instead of all this garbage about what our players can or cannot do, why are we not asking the questions about why our OC does not put them in positions to do these things well?

These are just a few things that I think would upgrade the offense immediately:

- More bootleg pass plays for Kap

- Screens to the RB to counter the blitz. Running it one time in a game will not work. Clearly, the teams beating the Niners are sending the house, so make them pay multiple times and they will slow down or gas out when their D linemen are chasing shifty backs and receivers down field.

- Dump off passes to RBs. Gore and Bruce Miller have good hands. Hunter and James both have great burst after the catch. Use these things!


These are all very simple things that Harbaugh and Roman could implement for when the game plan does not go exactly the way they draw it up, and I would be willing to bet that these types of plays would open up the regular types of plays they like to call. There is just no creativity in the passing offense, and if a defense sends pressure, the Niners never make them pay for it. When was the last time you saw a 49er receiver or RB catch a short pass and take it to the house?

Maybe Roman has just never grown from being a run game coordinator. The passing game just never seems as inventive as what i see with the running game. In college you can get away with that, not so much in the NFL.

Kaep is no good but Roman is terrible. Harbaugh can playcall himself. Time to let go of Roman.

Originally posted by Eastcoastniner:
can we have two seperate offensive coordinators haha one for passing and one for rushing?

Didn't they have it at stanford when JH was the coach?

Originally posted by 190836:

Originally posted by Eastcoastniner:
can we have two seperate offensive coordinators haha one for passing and one for rushing?

Didn't they have it at stanford when JH was the coach?

Who?

Originally posted by luis1985:
Kaep is no good but Roman is terrible. Harbaugh can playcall himself. Time to let go of Roman.

You actually think Harbaugh doesn't have a say in the plays that are called?

Originally posted by aTx49er:

Originally posted by 190836:

Originally posted by Eastcoastniner:
can we have two seperate offensive coordinators haha one for passing and one for rushing?

Didn't they have it at stanford when JH was the coach?

Who?

Didn't Roman call the running plays and Shaw the passing plays for JH at Stanford? Just asking.