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I2013 is Philp Rivers an Option
Oct 20, 2012 at 3:15 AM
- 49ersHeroine
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I would rather have Alex Smith! ...That being said I think AS sucks
Oct 20, 2012 at 3:26 AM
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Here is something that seems to get forgotten whenever posters discuss a replacement for Alex Smith. Hopefully AB will correct me if I am wrong, but it appears to me that the cap impact of Rivers' contract is in excess of $15 million a year up to and including 2015.
So you can forget resigning any of our guys when their contracts come up. Not sure how you are going to fit next years draftees in, either.
So you can forget resigning any of our guys when their contracts come up. Not sure how you are going to fit next years draftees in, either.
Oct 20, 2012 at 5:37 AM
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philip rivers?
Oct 20, 2012 at 6:06 AM
- communist
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Valid reasons aren't valid in the 'zone...
He was far better than Alex over time. Lately for the last 2 years he has had a major dropoff. Partially IMO it's because their team dropped off. Their defense and running game got so much worse. They lost a lot of D guys to age, retirement, FA, injuries. This allows the other teams to score tons more. And they are always playing catch up and chucking the ball all over the field. This leads to interceptions. They lost LT and Sproles and Michael Turner. All of those. They had a powerful running game. Now it's not balanced. It's one dimensional with passing being the key. So other teams tea off on the blitz and on the QB. This has an effect also. Finally they lost Vincent Jackson. A huge blow to Phillip Rivers. He used to just chuck it up in the air and have VJ come down with it since he is 6'5" 240 lbs. Now they don't have the WR's who can do that. This leads to more interceptions.
Really I think Rivers would be better on this team than he is on SD. There is so much more talent here than there. All things being equal talent wise on Team A and Team B by comparison if the talent was apples to apples I'd say Rivers is ahead of Alex Smith. Alex has a more talented team in recent years. The Chargers have been steadily declining for many reasons since their 14 - 2 powerhouse days. It's an overall team deterioration more so than Rivers I think. Although you could say there has been some decline with him though too.
One thing with Rivers is he won't struggle to throw for 150 yards in a game.... And if you get behind by a few TD's you are still in it because he can score a lot fast.
IMO Rivers got into some bad habits early in his career when he had LT and Vincent Jackson and Antonio Gates in his real prime and a powerhouse defense. He could just chuck anything up and not worry about anything. His WR's / TE's were so physical they would usually come down with it. If not his defense and running game would bail him out anyway Still to say he's not better than Smith over time would be rediculous IMO. Is he better now? I don't know. Alex's team is so much better and Phillips team is so much worse. My guess would be if they were on the same 49ers team Rivers is the starter and Alex the backup. With the roster we have I think Rivers would do a lot.
Oct 20, 2012 at 6:43 AM
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Rivers is regressing. He just carelessly throws the ball up under pressure. He played smarter earlier in his career. He just looks uninterested at times.
Oct 20, 2012 at 7:35 AM
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Originally posted by WookieOftheYear:
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Oct 20, 2012 at 8:26 AM
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Originally posted by strickac:So does the whole team...
Rivers is regressing. He just carelessly throws the ball up under pressure. He played smarter earlier in his career. He just looks uninterested at times.
Oct 20, 2012 at 9:27 AM
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I doubt San Diego lets Rivers go... Sure he's had some bad days but he is a franchise quarterback. If they did they could possibly be the dumbest team ever. Hmmm, wait a minute… They fire Schottenheimer after a 14 and 2 season, trade for Rivers when Breeze is still on Roster, could have taken Fitzgerald when they desperately needed a receiver, let HOFer, Drew Breeze go, hire retread Norv Turner as head coach. It just goes on and on. So I guess it could happen.
Oct 20, 2012 at 9:54 AM
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Does he come with a psychiatrist?
Oct 20, 2012 at 2:21 PM
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Originally posted by communist:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Valid reasons aren't valid in the 'zone...
He was far better than Alex over time. Lately for the last 2 years he has had a major dropoff. Partially IMO it's because their team dropped off. Their defense and running game got so much worse. They lost a lot of D guys to age, retirement, FA, injuries. This allows the other teams to score tons more. And they are always playing catch up and chucking the ball all over the field. This leads to interceptions. They lost LT and Sproles and Michael Turner. All of those. They had a powerful running game. Now it's not balanced. It's one dimensional with passing being the key. So other teams tea off on the blitz and on the QB. This has an effect also. Finally they lost Vincent Jackson. A huge blow to Phillip Rivers. He used to just chuck it up in the air and have VJ come down with it since he is 6'5" 240 lbs. Now they don't have the WR's who can do that. This leads to more interceptions.
Really I think Rivers would be better on this team than he is on SD. There is so much more talent here than there. All things being equal talent wise on Team A and Team B by comparison if the talent was apples to apples I'd say Rivers is ahead of Alex Smith. Alex has a more talented team in recent years. The Chargers have been steadily declining for many reasons since their 14 - 2 powerhouse days. It's an overall team deterioration more so than Rivers I think. Although you could say there has been some decline with him though too.
One thing with Rivers is he won't struggle to throw for 150 yards in a game.... And if you get behind by a few TD's you are still in it because he can score a lot fast.
IMO Rivers got into some bad habits early in his career when he had LT and Vincent Jackson and Antonio Gates in his real prime and a powerhouse defense. He could just chuck anything up and not worry about anything. His WR's / TE's were so physical they would usually come down with it. If not his defense and running game would bail him out anyway Still to say he's not better than Smith over time would be rediculous IMO. Is he better now? I don't know. Alex's team is so much better and Phillips team is so much worse. My guess would be if they were on the same 49ers team Rivers is the starter and Alex the backup. With the roster we have I think Rivers would do a lot.
Yeah I know. But since I live in SD I see a lot of his football and have gone to a lot of games too. And what I wrote there about summarizes it. That's really where it's at.
Oct 20, 2012 at 2:33 PM
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Originally posted by vermonator:I doubt San Diego lets Rivers go... Sure he's had some bad days but he is a franchise quarterback. If they did they could possibly be the dumbest team ever. Hmmm, wait a minute… They fire Schottenheimer after a 14 and 2 season, trade for Rivers when Breeze is still on Roster, could have taken Fitzgerald when they desperately needed a receiver, let HOFer, Drew Breeze go, hire retread Norv Turner as head coach. It just goes on and on. So I guess it could happen.
Always remember, it could be worse. You could support the Chargers!
Oct 20, 2012 at 3:59 PM
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Originally posted by Rubberneck36:Originally posted by WookieOftheYear:
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Oct 20, 2012 at 4:44 PM
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sign him now!
Oct 20, 2012 at 8:06 PM
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Lol at Alex being better than Phillip rivers
Oct 20, 2012 at 10:28 PM
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Originally posted by monsterzero789:
Lol at Alex being better than Phillip rivers
Rivers is better. Trust me. I live here in SD. And he is better. Rivers might throw for 140 yards in a quarter. Alex in a whole game.