Anquan Boldin

Anyway...big props to Boldin. The dude played WR like a LB and with a ton of passion. He'll do well after football... great head on his shoulders and sees the bigger picture!

Dude was a beast!

Originally posted by NFLExpert:

There are people talking about Boldin getting in the HALL OF FAME? Oh, lord.

Kids, Boldin doesn't stand any chance whatsoever of getting into the HOF. You literally have a better chance of winning the lottery than he does of ever making the Hall of Fame.

He made only 3 Pro Bowls in his 14 year career, and only once posted double digit touchdowns. He only topped 1100 receiving yards 4 times in his career. What's next, are Derrick Mason, Joey Galloway, and Muhsin Muhammad Hall of Famers?

Boldin was solid for a good length of time. He's nowhere near HOF caliber. There are actual elites from their positions during the time they played - such as Steve At**ter - who are still not in the HOF, and you think a wide receiver - a position where HOF voters are hesitant to put the player in - who was never anywhere near the top 5 at his position during his career, is going to be going to the HOF?

Picture this...Anquan Boldin, HOF finalist. 6 guys selected among those finalists to be inducted...ANQUAN BOLDIN is selected, inducted into the Hall of Fame. I mean, are you freak'n kidding me?

I realize there are probably a lot of kids on here and you don't understand how Canton works, but trust me: This discussion is utterly ridiculous.

In the NFL Hall of Fame, you have to be considered GREAT to get into the Hall of Fame. The reason a Gale Sayers, a Terrell Davis, a Kurt Warner get into the Hall of Fame, while an Ottis Anderson, a Drew Bledsoe, and a Vinny Testaverde are not in and will never even sniff it, is the former were considered dominant/great players at their position, if only for a short while. The latter were stat compilers who weren't considered greats of the game.

The HOF does not induct many stat compilers, and Boldin didn't compile enough to sniff it. He'll never even make it to the semi-final stage.

Isaac Bruce is a borderline candidate, and will probably get in because he was on the Rams' GSOT teams. He also posted a couple big years well before those years. But it's going to be an Andre Reed-type wait for him, and he outperformed Anquan Boldin in every way.

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Originally posted by NFLExpert:

There are people talking about Boldin getting in the HALL OF FAME? Oh, lord.

Kids, Boldin doesn't stand any chance whatsoever of getting into the HOF. You literally have a better chance of winning the lottery than he does of ever making the Hall of Fame.

He made only 3 Pro Bowls in his 14 year career, and only once posted double digit touchdowns. He only topped 1100 receiving yards 4 times in his career. What's next, are Derrick Mason, Joey Galloway, and Muhsin Muhammad Hall of Famers?

Boldin was solid for a good length of time. He's nowhere near HOF caliber. There are actual elites from their positions during the time they played - such as Steve At**ter - who are still not in the HOF, and you think a wide receiver - a position where HOF voters are hesitant to put the player in - who was never anywhere near the top 5 at his position during his career, is going to be going to the HOF?

Picture this...Anquan Boldin, HOF finalist. 6 guys selected among those finalists to be inducted...ANQUAN BOLDIN is selected, inducted into the Hall of Fame. I mean, are you freak'n kidding me?

I realize there are probably a lot of kids on here and you don't understand how Canton works, but trust me: This discussion is utterly ridiculous.

In the NFL Hall of Fame, you have to be considered GREAT to get into the Hall of Fame. The reason a Gale Sayers, a Terrell Davis, a Kurt Warner get into the Hall of Fame, while an Ottis Anderson, a Drew Bledsoe, and a Vinny Testaverde are not in and will never even sniff it, is the former were considered dominant/great players at their position, if only for a short while. The latter were stat compilers who weren't considered greats of the game.

The HOF does not induct many stat compilers, and Boldin didn't compile enough to sniff it. He'll never even make it to the semi-final stage.

Isaac Bruce is a borderline candidate, and will probably get in because he was on the Rams' GSOT teams. He also posted a couple big years well before those years. But it's going to be an Andre Reed-type wait for him, and he outperformed Anquan Boldin in every way.

Boldin definitely makes it before TO

Originally posted by NFLExpert:
There are people talking about Boldin getting in the HALL OF FAME? Oh, lord.

Kids, Boldin doesn't stand any chance whatsoever of getting into the HOF. You literally have a better chance of winning the lottery than he does of ever making the Hall of Fame.

He made only 3 Pro Bowls in his 14 year career, and only once posted double digit touchdowns. He only topped 1100 receiving yards 4 times in his career. What's next, are Derrick Mason, Joey Galloway, and Muhsin Muhammad Hall of Famers?

Boldin was solid for a good length of time. He's nowhere near HOF caliber. There are actual elites from their positions during the time they played - such as Steve At**ter - who are still not in the HOF, and you think a wide receiver - a position where HOF voters are hesitant to put the player in - who was never anywhere near the top 5 at his position during his career, is going to be going to the HOF?

Picture this...Anquan Boldin, HOF finalist. 6 guys selected among those finalists to be inducted...ANQUAN BOLDIN is selected, inducted into the Hall of Fame. I mean, are you freak'n kidding me?

I realize there are probably a lot of kids on here and you don't understand how Canton works, but trust me: This discussion is utterly ridiculous.

In the NFL Hall of Fame, you have to be considered GREAT to get into the Hall of Fame. The reason a Gale Sayers, a Terrell Davis, a Kurt Warner get into the Hall of Fame, while an Ottis Anderson, a Drew Bledsoe, and a Vinny Testaverde are not in and will never even sniff it, is the former were considered dominant/great players at their position, if only for a short while. The latter were stat compilers who weren't considered greats of the game.

The HOF does not induct many stat compilers, and Boldin didn't compile enough to sniff it. He'll never even make it to the semi-final stage.

Isaac Bruce is a borderline candidate, and will probably get in because he was on the Rams' GSOT teams. He also posted a couple big years well before those years. But it's going to be an Andre Reed-type wait for him, and he outperformed Anquan Boldin in every way.

Ever been to the HOF? I have. Boldin is 9th all time in receptions. Like all time as in every single player to ever play. I guess you didn't know that. lol

The top 10 players in receptions all time are or will be in the HOF at some point.

1. Jerry Rice - 1,549 - HOF
2. Tony Gonzalez - 1,325 - Not yet eligible
3. Larry Fitz - 1,125 - Active player
4. Marvin Harrison - 1,102 - HOF
5. Cris Carter - 1,101 - HOF
6. Tim Brown - 1,094 - HOF
7. Jason Witten - 1,089 - Active player
8. TO - 1,078 - Eligible, runner up.
9. Anquan Boldin - 1,076 - Not yet eligible
10. Reggie Wayne - 1,070 - Not yet eligible

You mention Bruce who has 2,000 more yards and 9 more TD career than Boldin. Bruce also played 16 years vs Boldin's 14. So that's not really outperforming him in every way. lol

IMO you should prob rethink your user name.

Originally posted by SoCold:
Ever been to the HOF? I have. Boldin is 9th all time in receptions. Like all time as in every single player to ever play. I guess you didn't know that. lol

The top 10 players in receptions all time are or will be in the HOF at some point.

1. Jerry Rice - 1,549 - HOF
2. Tony Gonzalez - 1,325 - Not yet eligible
3. Larry Fitz - 1,125 - Active player
4. Marvin Harrison - 1,102 - HOF
5. Cris Carter - 1,101 - HOF
6. Tim Brown - 1,094 - HOF
7. Jason Witten - 1,089 - Active player
8. TO - 1,078 - Eligible, runner up.
9. Anquan Boldin - 1,076 - Not yet eligible
10. Reggie Wayne - 1,070 - Not yet eligible

You mention Bruce who has 2,000 more yards and 9 more TD career than Boldin. Bruce also played 16 years vs Boldin's 14. So that's not really outperforming him in every way. lol

IMO you should prob rethink your user name.

You do realize there have been around 20 guys in the last 10-15 years who have gotten to 9th all-time in receptions, don't you? Oh, you didn't know that, did you?

Bruce posted over 1700 yards in 1995, won the receiving title in 1996, and was the go-to receiver for the GSOT on their 1999 Super Bow season, catching the SB winning game winning TD. Being 2,000 yards ahead to rank 4th in NFL history instead of 14th is a HUGE difference.

Aside from that, receptions is a meaningless statistic that will not get you into the HOF. Yards and touchdowns are what matter. Anyone can catch a ton of passes. Derek Loville caught 87 passes in 1995. When Art Monk retired, he was #1 in NFL history in receptions, AND he had 3 Super Bowl rings and was part of "The Posse." It took him forever to get in.

Boldin has no chance of getting in. This is not a prediction, this is not an opinion, it is just a fact. Do you understand me? He literally has a 0% chance of getting into the Hall of Fame.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NFLExpert:

There are people talking about Boldin getting in the HALL OF FAME? Oh, lord.

Kids, Boldin doesn't stand any chance whatsoever of getting into the HOF. You literally have a better chance of winning the lottery than he does of ever making the Hall of Fame.

He made only 3 Pro Bowls in his 14 year career, and only once posted double digit touchdowns. He only topped 1100 receiving yards 4 times in his career. What's next, are Derrick Mason, Joey Galloway, and Muhsin Muhammad Hall of Famers?

Boldin was solid for a good length of time. He's nowhere near HOF caliber. There are actual elites from their positions during the time they played - such as Steve At**ter - who are still not in the HOF, and you think a wide receiver - a position where HOF voters are hesitant to put the player in - who was never anywhere near the top 5 at his position during his career, is going to be going to the HOF?

Picture this...Anquan Boldin, HOF finalist. 6 guys selected among those finalists to be inducted...ANQUAN BOLDIN is selected, inducted into the Hall of Fame. I mean, are you freak'n kidding me?

I realize there are probably a lot of kids on here and you don't understand how Canton works, but trust me: This discussion is utterly ridiculous.

In the NFL Hall of Fame, you have to be considered GREAT to get into the Hall of Fame. The reason a Gale Sayers, a Terrell Davis, a Kurt Warner get into the Hall of Fame, while an Ottis Anderson, a Drew Bledsoe, and a Vinny Testaverde are not in and will never even sniff it, is the former were considered dominant/great players at their position, if only for a short while. The latter were stat compilers who weren't considered greats of the game.

The HOF does not induct many stat compilers, and Boldin didn't compile enough to sniff it. He'll never even make it to the semi-final stage.

Isaac Bruce is a borderline candidate, and will probably get in because he was on the Rams' GSOT teams. He also posted a couple big years well before those years. But it's going to be an Andre Reed-type wait for him, and he outperformed Anquan Boldin in every way.

Boldin definitely makes it before TO

Terrell Davis and Kurt Warner make the Hall Of Fame, anyone can make the hall of fame

Originally posted by solidg2000:
Terrell Davis and Kurt Warner make the Hall Of Fame, anyone can make the hall of fame

Kurt Warner was a 2-time MVP, Super Bowl champion, and made 3 Super Bowls with two different franchises.
Terrell Davis was an MVP who ran for 2,000 yards in a season, won 2 Super Bowls, and a Super Bowl MVP.

Anquan Boldin...was a solid #2 receiver who played for 14 years and made 3 Pro Bowls.

Henry Ellard retired 6th in NFL history in receptions and 3rd in receiving yards. Next year, it will have been 20 years since he retired, and he has never even been a HOF finalist.

Good luck Quan, was a pleasure watching you work your ass off in a Niner uniform! Nails!

Originally posted by NFLExpert:

Originally posted by solidg2000:
Terrell Davis and Kurt Warner make the Hall Of Fame, anyone can make the hall of fame

Kurt Warner was a 2-time MVP, Super Bowl champion, and made 3 Super Bowls with two different franchises.
Terrell Davis was an MVP who ran for 2,000 yards in a season, won 2 Super Bowls, and a Super Bowl MVP.

Anquan Boldin...was a solid #2 receiver who played for 14 years and made 3 Pro Bowls.

NFL ROY, Walter Payton Man of the Year, Super Bowl winner,

Henry Ellard retired 6th in NFL history in receptions and 3rd in receiving yards. Next year, it will have been 20 years since he retired, and he has never even been a HOF finalist.

FIFY

Originally posted by jcs:
FIFY

You don't go to the HOF for winning the freak'n Man Of the Year award. That has nothing to do with on field performance. You also don't go in for being part of a Super Bowl team nobody remembers you were on.

Like I said people, use your freak'n heads. Do you really think there's going to be a year where it's like, And Here Are the 6 HOF selections: Tom Brady, Steve At**ter, Joe Jacoby, Ed Reed, Kevin Mawae, Anquan Boldin, and Don Coryell?

"We're looking around at these NFL greats. Jerry Rice...Steve Largent...Paul Warfield...Anquan Boldin." LOLOLOLOL.

Originally posted by NFLExpert:

Originally posted by SoCold:
Ever been to the HOF? I have. Boldin is 9th all time in receptions. Like all time as in every single player to ever play. I guess you didn't know that. lol

The top 10 players in receptions all time are or will be in the HOF at some point.

1. Jerry Rice - 1,549 - HOF
2. Tony Gonzalez - 1,325 - Not yet eligible
3. Larry Fitz - 1,125 - Active player
4. Marvin Harrison - 1,102 - HOF
5. Cris Carter - 1,101 - HOF
6. Tim Brown - 1,094 - HOF
7. Jason Witten - 1,089 - Active player
8. TO - 1,078 - Eligible, runner up.
9. Anquan Boldin - 1,076 - Not yet eligible
10. Reggie Wayne - 1,070 - Not yet eligible

You mention Bruce who has 2,000 more yards and 9 more TD career than Boldin. Bruce also played 16 years vs Boldin's 14. So that's not really outperforming him in every way. lol

IMO you should prob rethink your user name.

You do realize there have been around 20 guys in the last 10-15 years who have gotten to 9th all-time in receptions, don't you? Oh, you didn't know that, did you?

Bruce posted over 1700 yards in 1995, won the receiving title in 1996, and was the go-to receiver for the GSOT on their 1999 Super Bow season, catching the SB winning game winning TD. Being 2,000 yards ahead to rank 4th in NFL history instead of 14th is a HUGE difference.

Aside from that, receptions is a meaningless statistic that will not get you into the HOF. Yards and touchdowns are what matter. Anyone can catch a ton of passes. Derek Loville caught 87 passes in 1995. When Art Monk retired, he was #1 in NFL history in receptions, AND he had 3 Super Bowl rings and was part of "The Posse." It took him forever to get in.

Boldin has no chance of getting in. This is not a prediction, this is not an opinion, it is just a fact. Do you understand me? He literally has a 0% chance of getting into the Hall of Fame.

lol oh ok. There is only 1 active player in the league that is anywhere close to 1,000 career receptions. Brandon Marshall (941) and by the looks of it he'll be lucky to play another two years with his injury history to be able to move into the top 10 in receptions. Antonio Brown would have to play another 5 years to catch Boldin. He could do it easily without injury but playing 10 years in the NFL is becoming harder to do. Players are leaving the game sooner every year. IF Brown stays healthy enough to get to 1,000 career receptions he might be the last WR to get there for the next 20+ years.

As far as Bruce vs Boldin.

Bruce was a 4x pro bowler and won a SB
Boldin was a 3x pro bowler and won a SB

They both have very similar stats. If Boldin played another 2 years like Bruce did their stats would be even closer. Burce only has 9 more TDs career than Boldin. Plus Boldin did it without being on one of the most explosive offenses of all time. Plus Boldin wasn't the #1 WR while playing many years with Fitz.

So to your point of Bruce having a shot but Boldin having 0% chance is silly.

Larry Fitz
TO
Boldin
Reggie Wayne
Andre Johnson
Steve Smith
Bruce
Ward
Moss

IMO all of those WR will be in the HOF at some point.

No one is saying Boldin is a first ballot HOFer but he should get in. Lets check back in 20 years to see who's right. lol

Originally posted by SoCold:
lol oh ok. There is only 1 active player in the league that is anywhere close to 1,000 career receptions. Brandon Marshall (941) and by the looks of it he'll be lucky to play another two years with his injury history to be able to move into the top 10 in receptions. Antonio Brown would have to play another 5 years to catch Boldin. He could do it easily without injury but playing 10 years in the NFL is becoming harder to do. Players are leaving the game sooner every year. IF Brown stays healthy enough to get to 1,000 career receptions he might be the last WR to get there for the next 20+ years.

As far as Bruce vs Boldin.

Bruce was a 4x pro bowler and won a SB
Boldin was a 3x pro bowler and won a SB

They both have very similar stats. If Boldin played another 2 years like Bruce did their stats would be even closer. Burce only has 9 more TDs career than Boldin. Plus Boldin did it without being on one of the most explosive offenses of all time. Plus Boldin wasn't the #1 WR while playing many years with Fitz.

So to your point of Bruce having a shot but Boldin having 0% chance is silly.

Larry Fitz
TO
Boldin
Reggie Wayne
Andre Johnson
Steve Smith
Bruce
Ward
Moss

IMO all of those WR will be in the HOF at some point.

No one is saying Boldin is a first ballot HOFer but he should get in. Lets check back in 20 years to see who's right. lol

Antonio Brown, Julio Jones, Odell Beckham Jr, A.J. Green, Dez Bryant, Mike Evans, T.Y. Hilton, etc. etc. all have chances to get to 1,000 receptions. In the modern game, this is not that difficult. Passing only gets easier as time goes on.

Again, Henry Ellard retired 6th in NFL history in receptions and 3rd in receiving yards. Next year marks 20 years since he retired, and he has never even been a finalist. He's not going to get in.

Your excuses (which ignore Bruce's 1700+ yard 1995 season and his receiving yardage title 1996 season) are irrelevant. That's not how the voting works. Nobody goes, "well, Ellard didn't get to play with Montana/Young in the WCO...if he had Rice's situation he'd probably be 2nd all-time in receiving yards to this day!"

When voters think of Bruce, they think of one of the main catalysts FOR that offense and go, "he was part of the GSOT, caught the 73 yard game winning SB TD pass against the Titans, and is 4th in NFL history in receiving yards. Hmmm, I think he has a strong case." When voters think of Boldin...they think, "uh, tough, slow wide receiver who wasn't even the best receiver on his own team during his Arizona years."

Boldin retired 14th in NFL history in receiving yards and 23rd in touchdowns. Plenty of guys are going to pass him in the next 20 years. He has a 0% chance. He won't even be thought of.

Wide receivers have a notoriously tough time getting in, and you list all of those guys...like all of a sudden they're just gonna start overloading on WRs for the HOF? And I notice you missed Calvin Johnson, too, who has a way better chance than Boldin because he was a way better player. You also missed Torry Holt.

Seriously...take a look at these names of guys who are going to be up for the HOF in the next 20 years, and tell me how Boldin fits in to all of this (remember, they can only induct 6 per year):

Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Ben Roethlisberger, Aaron Rodgers, Eli Manning, Matt Ryan, Adrian Peterson, Edgerrin James, Roger Craig, Priest Holmes, Shaun Alexander, Marshawn Lynch, Frank Gore, Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, Torry Holt, Isaac Bruce, Larry Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson, Brandon Marshall, Steve Smith, Reggie Wayne, Hines Ward, Antonio Brown, Julio Jones, A.J. Green, Dez Bryant, Tony Gonzalez, Antonio Gates, Jason Witten, Joe Thomas, Joe Jacoby, Chris Hinton, Alan Faneca, Steve Hutchinson, Kevin Mawae, Tyron Smith, Mike Kenn, Julius Peppers, Jared Allen, Leslie O'Neal, Dwight Freeney, Terrell Suggs, Kevin Williams, J.J. Watt, Ndamukong Suh, Richard Seymour, DeMarcus Ware, Von Miller, Ray Lewis, Brian Urlacher, Zach Thomas, Sam Mills, Patrick Willis, Luke Kuechly, Karl Mecklenburg, Champ Bailey, Charles Woodson, Darelle Revis, Ed Reed, Troy Polamalu, Brian Dawkins, Steve At**ter, Ty Law, Ronde Barber, Patrick Peterson, Richard Sherman, John Lynch, Earl Thomas, Eric Berry, Devin Hester.

I didn't make excuses I made comparisons.

I'm glad you know how the voters think.

Megatron has a much better chance because he was a better player statement contradicts your stance on stats and superbowl wins being a factor.

Just seems like for some reason you hate Boldin lol.

Originally posted by SoCold:
I didn't make excuses I made comparisons.

I'm glad you know how the voters think.

Megatron has a much better chance because he was a better player statement contradicts your stance on stats and superbowl wins being a factor.

Just seems like for some reason you hate Boldin lol.

You aren't paying attention. Did you miss my post on Terrell Davis, Gale Sayers, and Kurt Warner, and how the HOF is looking for GREAT players/guys who dominated, even if for a short time, as opposed to guys who were solid for a long time and compiled numbers (such as Drew Bledsoe and Vinny Testaverde)?

Now, occasionally a guy who wasn't dominant can make it, but he has to have compiled to a HUGE extent, and bonus points for being a memorable part of a great team/great teams. Being 14th in receiving yards and 23rd in touchdowns at the time you retire, while never having been elite at your position, and never having been part of anything memorable, isn't going to cut it.

Calvin Johnson could get in because he was considered the best WR in football for a few years and set the single season record for receiving yards. He was a clear cut Hall of Famer and then he retired early.

And you have no business being sarcastic when your posts on this subject are absolutely embarrassing to anyone who knows the first thing about how the HOF works. I know how the voters think because they have SAID how they think, numerous time. This isn't top secret information. You just have to actually pay attention when they go into detailed explanations.