Did Mike Tomlin intentionally force Jacoby Jones to change direction on kick return?

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I saw that b******t and his foot was even on the field. This should be a fine no doubt absolutely. And he even laughed about it what a piece of s**t, but still f**k the Ravens.

I like the ravens, but f-ck their lewis, jones, and suggs n***adom

Originally posted by BrianGO:

Originally posted by BadgerHawk:
This whole things was BS. The ref had to run around him and never even thought of throwing a flag? Tomlin knew exactly what he was doing because if you watch a slowed down version of the video where you can see his eyes he was watching for it. The refs are so worried about illegal hits that officiating for even simple rules has gone right out the window. I'm seriously getting so fed up by bad calls made by jumpy, flag happy refs and offensive oriented rules. The game is getting watered dopwn so much its the equivalent of movie theater soda.

Conspiracy Ray?! Conspiracy! Can't wait to say what he has to say on Sunday. Not that I really care but I'm sure he'll complain about another bad NFL decision in which his team won. Its always "Marsha, Marsha, Marsha"! The Ravens are the Jan Brady of the NFL in his eyes.

I didn't see the game. Are you serious? The ref didn't even throw a flag?

Not only should there have been a flag, but a touchdown should have been awarded. Remember when Flacco was talking about tackling Ginn if he breaks it at the end of the Super Bowl? He was being serious, because he thought that the worst that could happen was a penalty and another play. The reality is that the refs have the power to award a touchdown if a coach or player or even a fan comes onto the field and disrupts the play.

The confusion among refs in the NFL, no consistency, not knowing the situation, not knowing the rules, is becoming sad when you compare them with other pro sports. The NFL rules and officiating looks like amateur hour compared to the NBA, NHL and MLB.

In any other pro sport, if a coach interfered with the play, there would have been some type of ramification or penalty. SOMETHING would have happened. In the NFL, it's like watching a high school football game where nobody knows the rules and nobody knows what's going on.

Seriously these refs in the NFL nowa days seem so fixed, they call what they want and protect teams IMO. When is this s**t gonna stop, when a crazed fan starts murdering refs cause his team did or didn't get a call, don't tell me that s**t won't happen cause there's a lot of crazy ass people nowa days.

The thing that got me most was the look on his face, he knew exactly what he was doing and knew he would get away with it.

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
The thing that got me most was the look on his face, he knew exactly what he was doing and knew he would get away with it.

yep! i never thought bad about Tomlin but now he has reached my top 5 most hated HCs

You guys are such hypocrites, if Harbaugh did that you wouldn't say a word. I doubt he thought his team would allow a long enough return that he would be in the way standing on his own 35, pretty sure it was 100% unintentional.

Originally posted by BobS:

You guys are such hypocrites, if Harbaugh did that you wouldn't say a word. I doubt he thought his team would allow a long enough return that he would be in the way standing on his own 35, pretty sure it was 100% unintentional.

Come on man, first off that is really not true about Harbaugh...the Niners fans are the most critical of their own team. In fact this fan base drives me nuts with how they can be too critical a lot of the time. But beyond that nobody is saying it was premeditated but it was clear he saw an opportunity to interfere with the runner and chose not to move and he had a huge grin on his face while he did I it. Is it to the level of the assistant who actually put a leg out and tripped somebody? No, but it was clear he was deliberately attempting to insert himself bodily into the play and be at the very least a distraction. A head coach in the NFL should really be above that kind of rank amateur stuff....it's something a high school coach with an inflated ego would pull.

Originally posted by BobS:
You guys are such hypocrites, if Harbaugh did that you wouldn't say a word. I doubt he thought his team would allow a long enough return that he would be in the way standing on his own 35, pretty sure it was 100% unintentional.

Yeah I didn't think it was intentional either. Especially in full speed. And the first thing I thought when I read the overreaction in this tread was how it would be so different if it was Harbaugh......

Originally posted by aTx49er:

Originally posted by BobS:

You guys are such hypocrites, if Harbaugh did that you wouldn't say a word. I doubt he thought his team would allow a long enough return that he would be in the way standing on his own 35, pretty sure it was 100% unintentional.

Yeah I didn't think it was intentional either. Especially in full speed. And the first thing I thought when I read the overreaction in this tread was how it would be so different if it was Harbaugh......

He still isn't supposed to be there. He knows that. And he's staring at the jumbo screen watching jones run down the sideline. Whether it was intentional or not, it was a bonehead move and he got away with it.

Originally posted by BobS:

You guys are such hypocrites, if Harbaugh did that you wouldn't say a word. I doubt he thought his team would allow a long enough return that he would be in the way standing on his own 35, pretty sure it was 100% unintentional.

Lol...c'mon man

i have to see the play when the steelers kicked it off. If tomlin didn't move, MAYBE it was incidental. If he moved towards the sideline as jones approached him, then there's no doubt it was intentional.

Curious what would happen if a player has a clear path to the endzone and someone on the sideline stops him from scoring by either getting in his way or straight up tackling him.

Is there a rule for officials to award the team a TD if it was blatantly obvious he would score and was stopped unfairly?

Originally posted by SofaKing:
Curious what would happen if a player has a clear path to the endzone and someone on the sideline stops him from scoring by either getting in his way or straight up tackling him.

Is there a rule for officials to award the team a TD if it was blatantly obvious he would score and was stopped unfairly?

Yes, that rule is in already in place

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SofaKing:
Curious what would happen if a player has a clear path to the endzone and someone on the sideline stops him from scoring by either getting in his way or straight up tackling him.

Is there a rule for officials to award the team a TD if it was blatantly obvious he would score and was stopped unfairly?

Yes, that rule is in already in place

Cool, thanks. I would love to actually see that rule used lol. Would be interesting.

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by aTx49er:

Originally posted by BobS:
You guys are such hypocrites, if Harbaugh did that you wouldn't say a word. I doubt he thought his team would allow a long enough return that he would be in the way standing on his own 35, pretty sure it was 100% unintentional.

Yeah I didn't think it was intentional either. Especially in full speed. And the first thing I thought when I read the overreaction in this tread was how it would be so different if it was Harbaugh......

He still isn't supposed to be there. He knows that. And he's staring at the jumbo screen watching jones run down the sideline. Whether it was intentional or not, it was a bonehead move and he got away with it.

Oh I agree that he shouldn't have been there but you can tell he didn't realize they were coming up on him as quickly as they did. As you said he was looking up at the jumbo screen. We don't know what angle the camera view was showing and where he was in perspective to the players on the field in the jumbo screen. If it was the "all 22" view he would've been on the edge of the screen and wouldn't have seen himself until it was too late.

It does show that he had a foot in the field of play and intentional or not he should be at least fined for it.

Originally posted by BobS:
You guys are such hypocrites, if Harbaugh did that you wouldn't say a word. I doubt he thought his team would allow a long enough return that he would be in the way standing on his own 35, pretty sure it was 100% unintentional.

Except Harbaugh would never stoop to something so lame. He used to come onto the field to yell at the refs for their many ticky-tacky calls, but hasn't once since they instituted a rule banning such behavior. To me it looks clear that Tomlin is making a desperate attempt to affect the outcome of a play while it was still happening, standing right on the edge of the sideline, looking backwards, and faking for a brief moment towards Jones. Wtf is he doing at the edge of the sideline with his back to the play? Is he not interested? Does he see John Candy in the end zone?? Harbaugh has a lot more character than trying something like that.