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Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Originally posted by OahuHawkFan:
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
I live in the Seattle area, and the bandwagon is real. I respect the longtime fans who struggled through years of local blackouts, cheering for Dan McGuire and Rick Mirer, and I'm fine with them getting a trophy, but there are WAY too many people who were recently Steeler, Raider, Giant, Cowboy, Niner, Packer, and Patriot fans who are now "die hard" Hawk fans, talking about "We are gonna repeat," wearing their 12 jerseys when they can't even name 11 guys on the team.

I was willing to except it as my lot, living in hostile territory, but stuff involving my kid makes me nuts. Some middle-aged jackass at Safeway BOOED MY FIVE - YEAR - OLD for wearing a Niners shirt. He's a really friendly kid who says "hi" to everyone, and some leather-lipped gash snapped at him, "GO SEAHAWKS!!!" and glared at me for having the audacity to let my son walk around wearing non-Seahawk colors. Not drunk, not at the game, just garbage people.

My views are based on living here, and I never saw Seahawk flags on houses or trucks growing up. Part of the reason I was still a 49er fan after my folks split up (dad born in SF) was that the 49ers were on tv more than the Seahawks, because the "greatest fanbase on earth" couldn't sell out the dome. Going to games even 5 years ago was easy, because the fans appreciated someone spending money on their team, since home team fans weren't doing it.

Well, we clearly had very different experiences then. I lived in the puget sound area north of Seattle for 35+ years, and I couldn't disagree more. Sure there's fans of other teams. There's plenty of California (and other state) transplants in Washington State, so that explains it in part.

I've heard this nerative before on this board, and it seems like EVERY 49er fan who happens to live in or around Seattle emerges to tell a similar story. So clearly, there's probably something to it in your opinions... But it's a massive exageration to suggest there were not a lot of football fans in the Seattle area before recently. Have you thought about just how low the low years were? Ken Berring? Tom Flores? I mean, those were some tough times. But if you are willing to go back to the Chuck Knox years and survey the area, you would know there was a TON of rapid fans.

So yeah, I don't know when you moved to Seattle. But I think it's important to set the record straight from my perspective.

Right, it was my opinion what they said. I probably imagined the respectful fans 5 years ago and prior, too, right? I've been here my whole life, excluding training and deployments. The fanbase is different now. Too many new fans and front-runnung a55holes. My neighbor is a good dude and a lifelong fan (only 28). He hates the bandwagoners even more than I do.

"No new fans, no new fans, no new fans, no no new."
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Right, it was my opinion what they said. I probably imagined the respectful fans 5 years ago and prior, too, right? I've been here my whole life, excluding training and deployments. The fanbase is different now. Too many new fans and front-runnung a55holes. My neighbor is a good dude and a lifelong fan (only 28). He hates the bandwagoners even more than I do.

Oh, you're military.... Well first, thank you for your service! Seriously! But that explains a lot.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you think your contacts around the base might not be the best representation of the puget sound area? I mean, the people stationed at Fort Lewis / McCord (and previously Sand Point) are understandably less into the local teams than they are into their home team (wherever that may be). Just common sense right?

If I was to head over to Hickam, Pearl Harbor, Schofield, Wheeler, etc.....how many U of H football fans do you think I'd find? Pretty much the same thing.

PS: Ugh...did I really just compare the Seahawks to the Rainbow Warriors? Ugh!
[ Edited by OahuHawkFan on Dec 5, 2014 at 5:33 PM ]
Originally posted by OahuHawkFan:
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
I live in the Seattle area, and the bandwagon is real. I respect the longtime fans who struggled through years of local blackouts, cheering for Dan McGuire and Rick Mirer, and I'm fine with them getting a trophy, but there are WAY too many people who were recently Steeler, Raider, Giant, Cowboy, Niner, Packer, and Patriot fans who are now "die hard" Hawk fans, talking about "We are gonna repeat," wearing their 12 jerseys when they can't even name 11 guys on the team.

I was willing to except it as my lot, living in hostile territory, but stuff involving my kid makes me nuts. Some middle-aged jackass at Safeway BOOED MY FIVE - YEAR - OLD for wearing a Niners shirt. He's a really friendly kid who says "hi" to everyone, and some leather-lipped gash snapped at him, "GO SEAHAWKS!!!" and glared at me for having the audacity to let my son walk around wearing non-Seahawk colors. Not drunk, not at the game, just garbage people.

My views are based on living here, and I never saw Seahawk flags on houses or trucks growing up. Part of the reason I was still a 49er fan after my folks split up (dad born in SF) was that the 49ers were on tv more than the Seahawks, because the "greatest fanbase on earth" couldn't sell out the dome. Going to games even 5 years ago was easy, because the fans appreciated someone spending money on their team, since home team fans weren't doing it.

Well, we clearly had very different experiences then. I lived in the puget sound area north of Seattle for 35+ years, and I couldn't disagree more. Sure there's fans of other teams. There's plenty of California (and other state) transplants in Washington State, so that explains it in part.

I've heard this nerative before on this board, and it seems like EVERY 49er fan who happens to live in or around Seattle emerges to tell a similar story. So clearly, there's probably something to it in your opinions... But it's a massive exageration to suggest there were not a lot of football fans in the Seattle area before recently. Have you thought about just how low the low years were? Ken Berring? Tom Flores? I mean, those were some tough times. But if you are willing to go back to the Chuck Knox years and survey the area, you would know there was a TON of rapid fans.

So yeah, I don't know when you moved to Seattle. But I think it's important to set the record straight from my perspective.

I've been here since 2007 when I left Oahu, you need to lose the Seahawk glasses Brah. Your fanbase has only grown in the last couple of years, probably when RW came on the scene. When I first got here and still to this day your fans are "fair weather fans", I remember just a couple of years ago when you guys went to the playoffs with a 9-7 record, you would be hard pressed to even find a Hawk jersey, now you can spit without hitting one. My problem is the fact that your fans for the most part don't know anything about the history of your team, whenever I ask one to name 3 players that weren't on the SB team I just get that deer in the headlights look. There is nothing original about your team, even the 12's was stolen from Texas A&M. Your team will never be considered one of the elite or dynasty teams.

It's ok to be excited about your team, the part I don't understand is the need to make sure any opposing fans they see know they're Hawk fans, I have had people clear across a restaurant from me come all the way over just to tell me they're Hawk fans (as if I couldn't tell from the head to toe Hawk gear). Then of course there's the fans sitting in a restaurant with us for almost an hour not saying a word until I get up to use the bathroom, then they feel the need to talk s**t to my wife and daughters and scare the crap out of my 4 year old granddaughter. Trust me brah, had they done that while I was sitting there, they'd a been picking up their teeth off the floor. Then the best one to date is the guy at the RV show at Centurylink that starts talking s**t about the 49ers to me and I'm not wearing any 49er gear, just a RED shirt, this is typical of your dumbass fanbase.

I can't wait to see what your team does next year when the cap takes it's toll on your chances of making anywhere diminish. I am going to laugh LMAO watching your bandwagoneers disappear like cockroaches when the light comes on.

GO 49ers!!
Originally posted by OahuHawkFan:
Oh, you're military.... Well first, thank you for your service! Seriously! But that explains a lot.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you think your contacts around the base might not be the best representation of the puget sound area? I mean, the people stationed at Fort Lewis / McCord (and previously Sand Point) are understandably less into the local teams than they are into their home team (wherever that may be). Just common sense right?

If I was to head over to Hickam, Pearl Harbor, Schofield, Wheeler, etc.....how many U of H football fans do you think I'd find? Pretty much the same thing.

PS: Ugh...did I really just compare the Seahawks to the Rainbow Warriors? Ugh!

Born and raised in Washington. Left the service in 2007. Thank you for your kind words, but I've been at least 40 miles off post since I left.
I'm fourth generation from San Francisco. I live in the Seattle area, for the last 25 years. It's maddening, but they are a better team then the Niners right now. They don't laugh at us but they are smug and arrogant about their success for sure. I've never seen a team luckier than the '13 Seathawks. They had soooo many lucky plays and calls it was like being awake during a nightmare! Just like the championship game - 4th and a mile and they score a #ucking td! That kind of stuff happened all season and their fans of course thought it was due to their players superior abilities. BS! This year they don't have the Tate and Red Bryant and now have lost Mebane, we should be able to beat them! We just don't make any big plays. We will. I hope it's soon. I know we can beat them in Seattle if we control the run. We gotta Run Run Run. Ya gotta wear them out a bit. They hate playing against hurry-up offences too! What goes up, must come down!! Some game in the future we will score by going over the top of Sherman! It will happen. Seathawk fans just know their team is a little better on offense right now. They have a highly educated populace around here due to Microsoft and Boeing. They are not stupid.They know they don't have the tools they had last year. They know too that they got the luck and they get the calls against us.That will change.....
Originally posted by LisaTwelve:
Or, just ask Ronnie Lott ;-)
Jacob Green was one of my "old favorites" (which made it extra-sad when his son-in-law, Big Red, left :-( )

Ronnie Lott Said Kenny Easley was the best to ever play the safety position. It's a nice compliment. But Ronnie Lott was better, he just couldn't say it.
Originally posted by Black24Razor:
Originally posted by LisaTwelve:
Or, just ask Ronnie Lott ;-)
Jacob Green was one of my "old favorites" (which made it extra-sad when his son-in-law, Big Red, left :-( )

Ronnie Lott Said Kenny Easley was the best to ever play the safety position. It's a nice compliment. But Ronnie Lott was better, he just couldn't say it.

They were both true greats. But Easley achieved one thing Lott didn't. So far as I know no one goes round asking 49ers fans if they know who Ronnie Lott is by way of identifying the fair weather fans!

The Easley test!
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Who cares? This is football. Pretty sure we all mocked the old NFC West when we dominated.

This is their time...they've earned the bragging rights. Want that to stop? Great...the 49ers need to grow a spine and beat them.

+1
Originally posted by Seattle49er:
Originally posted by OahuHawkFan:
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
I live in the Seattle area, and the bandwagon is real. I respect the longtime fans who struggled through years of local blackouts, cheering for Dan McGuire and Rick Mirer, and I'm fine with them getting a trophy, but there are WAY too many people who were recently Steeler, Raider, Giant, Cowboy, Niner, Packer, and Patriot fans who are now "die hard" Hawk fans, talking about "We are gonna repeat," wearing their 12 jerseys when they can't even name 11 guys on the team.

I was willing to except it as my lot, living in hostile territory, but stuff involving my kid makes me nuts. Some middle-aged jackass at Safeway BOOED MY FIVE - YEAR - OLD for wearing a Niners shirt. He's a really friendly kid who says "hi" to everyone, and some leather-lipped gash snapped at him, "GO SEAHAWKS!!!" and glared at me for having the audacity to let my son walk around wearing non-Seahawk colors. Not drunk, not at the game, just garbage people.

My views are based on living here, and I never saw Seahawk flags on houses or trucks growing up. Part of the reason I was still a 49er fan after my folks split up (dad born in SF) was that the 49ers were on tv more than the Seahawks, because the "greatest fanbase on earth" couldn't sell out the dome. Going to games even 5 years ago was easy, because the fans appreciated someone spending money on their team, since home team fans weren't doing it.

Well, we clearly had very different experiences then. I lived in the puget sound area north of Seattle for 35+ years, and I couldn't disagree more. Sure there's fans of other teams. There's plenty of California (and other state) transplants in Washington State, so that explains it in part.

I've heard this nerative before on this board, and it seems like EVERY 49er fan who happens to live in or around Seattle emerges to tell a similar story. So clearly, there's probably something to it in your opinions... But it's a massive exageration to suggest there were not a lot of football fans in the Seattle area before recently. Have you thought about just how low the low years were? Ken Berring? Tom Flores? I mean, those were some tough times. But if you are willing to go back to the Chuck Knox years and survey the area, you would know there was a TON of rapid fans.

So yeah, I don't know when you moved to Seattle. But I think it's important to set the record straight from my perspective.

I've been here since 2007 when I left Oahu, you need to lose the Seahawk glasses Brah. Your fanbase has only grown in the last couple of years, probably when RW came on the scene. When I first got here and still to this day your fans are "fair weather fans", I remember just a couple of years ago when you guys went to the playoffs with a 9-7 record, you would be hard pressed to even find a Hawk jersey, now you can spit without hitting one. My problem is the fact that your fans for the most part don't know anything about the history of your team, whenever I ask one to name 3 players that weren't on the SB team I just get that deer in the headlights look. There is nothing original about your team, even the 12's was stolen from Texas A&M. Your team will never be considered one of the elite or dynasty teams.

It's ok to be excited about your team, the part I don't understand is the need to make sure any opposing fans they see know they're Hawk fans, I have had people clear across a restaurant from me come all the way over just to tell me they're Hawk fans (as if I couldn't tell from the head to toe Hawk gear). Then of course there's the fans sitting in a restaurant with us for almost an hour not saying a word until I get up to use the bathroom, then they feel the need to talk s**t to my wife and daughters and scare the crap out of my 4 year old granddaughter. Trust me brah, had they done that while I was sitting there, they'd a been picking up their teeth off the floor. Then the best one to date is the guy at the RV show at Centurylink that starts talking s**t about the 49ers to me and I'm not wearing any 49er gear, just a RED shirt, this is typical of your dumbass fanbase.

I can't wait to see what your team does next year when the cap takes it's toll on your chances of making anywhere diminish. I am going to laugh LMAO watching your bandwagoneers disappear like cockroaches when the light comes on.

GO 49ers!!

Brah, the Seahawks have already been working with the cap and have won a Super Bowl thanks to good drafts. How have we fared since the modern cap era came into place? 0 SBs. Their FO has just been better. As long as Pete and Schneider are there I don't see them stopping
[ Edited by Fav13259 on Dec 6, 2014 at 6:35 AM ]
Originally posted by Fav13259:
Brah, the Seahawks have already been working with the cap and have won a Super Bowl thanks to good drafts. How have we fared since the modern cap era came into place? 0 SBs. Their FO has just been better. As long as Pete and Schneider are there I don't see them stopping

Seriously? They are a one and done team.
Originally posted by Fav13259:
Originally posted by Seattle49er:
Originally posted by OahuHawkFan:
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
I live in the Seattle area, and the bandwagon is real. I respect the longtime fans who struggled through years of local blackouts, cheering for Dan McGuire and Rick Mirer, and I'm fine with them getting a trophy, but there are WAY too many people who were recently Steeler, Raider, Giant, Cowboy, Niner, Packer, and Patriot fans who are now "die hard" Hawk fans, talking about "We are gonna repeat," wearing their 12 jerseys when they can't even name 11 guys on the team.

I was willing to except it as my lot, living in hostile territory, but stuff involving my kid makes me nuts. Some middle-aged jackass at Safeway BOOED MY FIVE - YEAR - OLD for wearing a Niners shirt. He's a really friendly kid who says "hi" to everyone, and some leather-lipped gash snapped at him, "GO SEAHAWKS!!!" and glared at me for having the audacity to let my son walk around wearing non-Seahawk colors. Not drunk, not at the game, just garbage people.

My views are based on living here, and I never saw Seahawk flags on houses or trucks growing up. Part of the reason I was still a 49er fan after my folks split up (dad born in SF) was that the 49ers were on tv more than the Seahawks, because the "greatest fanbase on earth" couldn't sell out the dome. Going to games even 5 years ago was easy, because the fans appreciated someone spending money on their team, since home team fans weren't doing it.

Well, we clearly had very different experiences then. I lived in the puget sound area north of Seattle for 35+ years, and I couldn't disagree more. Sure there's fans of other teams. There's plenty of California (and other state) transplants in Washington State, so that explains it in part.

I've heard this nerative before on this board, and it seems like EVERY 49er fan who happens to live in or around Seattle emerges to tell a similar story. So clearly, there's probably something to it in your opinions... But it's a massive exageration to suggest there were not a lot of football fans in the Seattle area before recently. Have you thought about just how low the low years were? Ken Berring? Tom Flores? I mean, those were some tough times. But if you are willing to go back to the Chuck Knox years and survey the area, you would know there was a TON of rapid fans.

So yeah, I don't know when you moved to Seattle. But I think it's important to set the record straight from my perspective.

I've been here since 2007 when I left Oahu, you need to lose the Seahawk glasses Brah. Your fanbase has only grown in the last couple of years, probably when RW came on the scene. When I first got here and still to this day your fans are "fair weather fans", I remember just a couple of years ago when you guys went to the playoffs with a 9-7 record, you would be hard pressed to even find a Hawk jersey, now you can spit without hitting one. My problem is the fact that your fans for the most part don't know anything about the history of your team, whenever I ask one to name 3 players that weren't on the SB team I just get that deer in the headlights look. There is nothing original about your team, even the 12's was stolen from Texas A&M. Your team will never be considered one of the elite or dynasty teams.

It's ok to be excited about your team, the part I don't understand is the need to make sure any opposing fans they see know they're Hawk fans, I have had people clear across a restaurant from me come all the way over just to tell me they're Hawk fans (as if I couldn't tell from the head to toe Hawk gear). Then of course there's the fans sitting in a restaurant with us for almost an hour not saying a word until I get up to use the bathroom, then they feel the need to talk s**t to my wife and daughters and scare the crap out of my 4 year old granddaughter. Trust me brah, had they done that while I was sitting there, they'd a been picking up their teeth off the floor. Then the best one to date is the guy at the RV show at Centurylink that starts talking s**t about the 49ers to me and I'm not wearing any 49er gear, just a RED shirt, this is typical of your dumbass fanbase.

I can't wait to see what your team does next year when the cap takes it's toll on your chances of making anywhere diminish. I am going to laugh LMAO watching your bandwagoneers disappear like cockroaches when the light comes on.

GO 49ers!!

Brah, the Seahawks have already been working with the cap and have won a Super Bowl thanks to good drafts. How have we fared since the modern cap era came into place? 0 SBs. Their FO has just been better. As long as Pete and Schneider are there I don't see them stopping
Come back this time next year and tell how you're fairing, my guess is you wont, by this time next year your team and it's "12's" will have faded back into obscurity. I didn't say you haven't been working with the cap, but your team will have to pay RW more than rookie minimum, along with about 12 or so others that will be RFA and UFA. Not to mention no more Marshawn. Good luck.
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Not trying to defend the Seahawks, but I'll add that our team has its fair share of bandwagon fans as well. I'll give a different perspective bc I live on the East Coast, but growing up in the 80s / 90s you found NINER gear in all the NY stores, not to mention plenty of fans in school and general public donning Niner gear. In the 00s, completely disappeared. Ppl didn't even want to admit they followed the Niners -- if anything, most of my fellow "fans" transitioned to fantasy football as a coverup. Now that the team is relevant again you see those same bandwagoners out in the streets displaying their old Rice, Montana, and Young jerseys.

I'm sure the Bay Area has had similar situation, and the fact that our stadium is the worst home field outside Jacksonville is telling
There will always be fair weather fans. And the true fans know who they are. That's all that matters, let people say what they want.
[ Edited by tab420 on Dec 6, 2014 at 10:06 AM ]
Originally posted by Seattle49er:
Originally posted by Fav13259:
Originally posted by Seattle49er:
Originally posted by OahuHawkFan:
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
I live in the Seattle area, and the bandwagon is real. I respect the longtime fans who struggled through years of local blackouts, cheering for Dan McGuire and Rick Mirer, and I'm fine with them getting a trophy, but there are WAY too many people who were recently Steeler, Raider, Giant, Cowboy, Niner, Packer, and Patriot fans who are now "die hard" Hawk fans, talking about "We are gonna repeat," wearing their 12 jerseys when they can't even name 11 guys on the team.

I was willing to except it as my lot, living in hostile territory, but stuff involving my kid makes me nuts. Some middle-aged jackass at Safeway BOOED MY FIVE - YEAR - OLD for wearing a Niners shirt. He's a really friendly kid who says "hi" to everyone, and some leather-lipped gash snapped at him, "GO SEAHAWKS!!!" and glared at me for having the audacity to let my son walk around wearing non-Seahawk colors. Not drunk, not at the game, just garbage people.

My views are based on living here, and I never saw Seahawk flags on houses or trucks growing up. Part of the reason I was still a 49er fan after my folks split up (dad born in SF) was that the 49ers were on tv more than the Seahawks, because the "greatest fanbase on earth" couldn't sell out the dome. Going to games even 5 years ago was easy, because the fans appreciated someone spending money on their team, since home team fans weren't doing it.

Well, we clearly had very different experiences then. I lived in the puget sound area north of Seattle for 35+ years, and I couldn't disagree more. Sure there's fans of other teams. There's plenty of California (and other state) transplants in Washington State, so that explains it in part.

I've heard this nerative before on this board, and it seems like EVERY 49er fan who happens to live in or around Seattle emerges to tell a similar story. So clearly, there's probably something to it in your opinions... But it's a massive exageration to suggest there were not a lot of football fans in the Seattle area before recently. Have you thought about just how low the low years were? Ken Berring? Tom Flores? I mean, those were some tough times. But if you are willing to go back to the Chuck Knox years and survey the area, you would know there was a TON of rapid fans.

So yeah, I don't know when you moved to Seattle. But I think it's important to set the record straight from my perspective.

I've been here since 2007 when I left Oahu, you need to lose the Seahawk glasses Brah. Your fanbase has only grown in the last couple of years, probably when RW came on the scene. When I first got here and still to this day your fans are "fair weather fans", I remember just a couple of years ago when you guys went to the playoffs with a 9-7 record, you would be hard pressed to even find a Hawk jersey, now you can spit without hitting one. My problem is the fact that your fans for the most part don't know anything about the history of your team, whenever I ask one to name 3 players that weren't on the SB team I just get that deer in the headlights look. There is nothing original about your team, even the 12's was stolen from Texas A&M. Your team will never be considered one of the elite or dynasty teams.

It's ok to be excited about your team, the part I don't understand is the need to make sure any opposing fans they see know they're Hawk fans, I have had people clear across a restaurant from me come all the way over just to tell me they're Hawk fans (as if I couldn't tell from the head to toe Hawk gear). Then of course there's the fans sitting in a restaurant with us for almost an hour not saying a word until I get up to use the bathroom, then they feel the need to talk s**t to my wife and daughters and scare the crap out of my 4 year old granddaughter. Trust me brah, had they done that while I was sitting there, they'd a been picking up their teeth off the floor. Then the best one to date is the guy at the RV show at Centurylink that starts talking s**t about the 49ers to me and I'm not wearing any 49er gear, just a RED shirt, this is typical of your dumbass fanbase.

I can't wait to see what your team does next year when the cap takes it's toll on your chances of making anywhere diminish. I am going to laugh LMAO watching your bandwagoneers disappear like cockroaches when the light comes on.

GO 49ers!!

Brah, the Seahawks have already been working with the cap and have won a Super Bowl thanks to good drafts. How have we fared since the modern cap era came into place? 0 SBs. Their FO has just been better. As long as Pete and Schneider are there I don't see them stopping
Come back this time next year and tell how you're fairing, my guess is you wont, by this time next year your team and it's "12's" will have faded back into obscurity. I didn't say you haven't been working with the cap, but your team will have to pay RW more than rookie minimum, along with about 12 or so others that will be RFA and UFA. Not to mention no more Marshawn. Good luck.

Originally posted by Seattle49er:
Originally posted by Fav13259:
Originally posted by Seattle49er:
Originally posted by OahuHawkFan:
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
I live in the Seattle area, and the bandwagon is real. I respect the longtime fans who struggled through years of local blackouts, cheering for Dan McGuire and Rick Mirer, and I'm fine with them getting a trophy, but there are WAY too many people who were recently Steeler, Raider, Giant, Cowboy, Niner, Packer, and Patriot fans who are now "die hard" Hawk fans, talking about "We are gonna repeat," wearing their 12 jerseys when they can't even name 11 guys on the team.

I was willing to except it as my lot, living in hostile territory, but stuff involving my kid makes me nuts. Some middle-aged jackass at Safeway BOOED MY FIVE - YEAR - OLD for wearing a Niners shirt. He's a really friendly kid who says "hi" to everyone, and some leather-lipped gash snapped at him, "GO SEAHAWKS!!!" and glared at me for having the audacity to let my son walk around wearing non-Seahawk colors. Not drunk, not at the game, just garbage people.

My views are based on living here, and I never saw Seahawk flags on houses or trucks growing up. Part of the reason I was still a 49er fan after my folks split up (dad born in SF) was that the 49ers were on tv more than the Seahawks, because the "greatest fanbase on earth" couldn't sell out the dome. Going to games even 5 years ago was easy, because the fans appreciated someone spending money on their team, since home team fans weren't doing it.

Well, we clearly had very different experiences then. I lived in the puget sound area north of Seattle for 35+ years, and I couldn't disagree more. Sure there's fans of other teams. There's plenty of California (and other state) transplants in Washington State, so that explains it in part.

I've heard this nerative before on this board, and it seems like EVERY 49er fan who happens to live in or around Seattle emerges to tell a similar story. So clearly, there's probably something to it in your opinions... But it's a massive exageration to suggest there were not a lot of football fans in the Seattle area before recently. Have you thought about just how low the low years were? Ken Berring? Tom Flores? I mean, those were some tough times. But if you are willing to go back to the Chuck Knox years and survey the area, you would know there was a TON of rapid fans.

So yeah, I don't know when you moved to Seattle. But I think it's important to set the record straight from my perspective.

I've been here since 2007 when I left Oahu, you need to lose the Seahawk glasses Brah. Your fanbase has only grown in the last couple of years, probably when RW came on the scene. When I first got here and still to this day your fans are "fair weather fans", I remember just a couple of years ago when you guys went to the playoffs with a 9-7 record, you would be hard pressed to even find a Hawk jersey, now you can spit without hitting one. My problem is the fact that your fans for the most part don't know anything about the history of your team, whenever I ask one to name 3 players that weren't on the SB team I just get that deer in the headlights look. There is nothing original about your team, even the 12's was stolen from Texas A&M. Your team will never be considered one of the elite or dynasty teams.

It's ok to be excited about your team, the part I don't understand is the need to make sure any opposing fans they see know they're Hawk fans, I have had people clear across a restaurant from me come all the way over just to tell me they're Hawk fans (as if I couldn't tell from the head to toe Hawk gear). Then of course there's the fans sitting in a restaurant with us for almost an hour not saying a word until I get up to use the bathroom, then they feel the need to talk s**t to my wife and daughters and scare the crap out of my 4 year old granddaughter. Trust me brah, had they done that while I was sitting there, they'd a been picking up their teeth off the floor. Then the best one to date is the guy at the RV show at Centurylink that starts talking s**t about the 49ers to me and I'm not wearing any 49er gear, just a RED shirt, this is typical of your dumbass fanbase.

I can't wait to see what your team does next year when the cap takes it's toll on your chances of making anywhere diminish. I am going to laugh LMAO watching your bandwagoneers disappear like cockroaches when the light comes on.

GO 49ers!!

Brah, the Seahawks have already been working with the cap and have won a Super Bowl thanks to good drafts. How have we fared since the modern cap era came into place? 0 SBs. Their FO has just been better. As long as Pete and Schneider are there I don't see them stopping
Come back this time next year and tell how you're fairing, my guess is you wont, by this time next year your team and it's "12's" will have faded back into obscurity. I didn't say you haven't been working with the cap, but your team will have to pay RW more than rookie minimum, along with about 12 or so others that will be RFA and UFA. Not to mention no more Marshawn. Good luck.

You calling me a Seahawks fan brah? That hurts! I'm just pointing out that since the modern salary cap came into existence and since they came into the NFC West they have had our number more times than not and recently their FO has drafted better and hasn't been afraid to correct their mistakes ie, Start Wilson over Flynn, ship Percy Out, etc. while our FO still has Roman, and Krap is still starting!
Originally posted by Fav13259:
Originally posted by Seattle49er:
Originally posted by Fav13259:
Originally posted by Seattle49er:
Originally posted by OahuHawkFan:
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
I live in the Seattle area, and the bandwagon is real. I respect the longtime fans who struggled through years of local blackouts, cheering for Dan McGuire and Rick Mirer, and I'm fine with them getting a trophy, but there are WAY too many people who were recently Steeler, Raider, Giant, Cowboy, Niner, Packer, and Patriot fans who are now "die hard" Hawk fans, talking about "We are gonna repeat," wearing their 12 jerseys when they can't even name 11 guys on the team.

I was willing to except it as my lot, living in hostile territory, but stuff involving my kid makes me nuts. Some middle-aged jackass at Safeway BOOED MY FIVE - YEAR - OLD for wearing a Niners shirt. He's a really friendly kid who says "hi" to everyone, and some leather-lipped gash snapped at him, "GO SEAHAWKS!!!" and glared at me for having the audacity to let my son walk around wearing non-Seahawk colors. Not drunk, not at the game, just garbage people.

My views are based on living here, and I never saw Seahawk flags on houses or trucks growing up. Part of the reason I was still a 49er fan after my folks split up (dad born in SF) was that the 49ers were on tv more than the Seahawks, because the "greatest fanbase on earth" couldn't sell out the dome. Going to games even 5 years ago was easy, because the fans appreciated someone spending money on their team, since home team fans weren't doing it.

Well, we clearly had very different experiences then. I lived in the puget sound area north of Seattle for 35+ years, and I couldn't disagree more. Sure there's fans of other teams. There's plenty of California (and other state) transplants in Washington State, so that explains it in part.

I've heard this nerative before on this board, and it seems like EVERY 49er fan who happens to live in or around Seattle emerges to tell a similar story. So clearly, there's probably something to it in your opinions... But it's a massive exageration to suggest there were not a lot of football fans in the Seattle area before recently. Have you thought about just how low the low years were? Ken Berring? Tom Flores? I mean, those were some tough times. But if you are willing to go back to the Chuck Knox years and survey the area, you would know there was a TON of rapid fans.

So yeah, I don't know when you moved to Seattle. But I think it's important to set the record straight from my perspective.

I've been here since 2007 when I left Oahu, you need to lose the Seahawk glasses Brah. Your fanbase has only grown in the last couple of years, probably when RW came on the scene. When I first got here and still to this day your fans are "fair weather fans", I remember just a couple of years ago when you guys went to the playoffs with a 9-7 record, you would be hard pressed to even find a Hawk jersey, now you can spit without hitting one. My problem is the fact that your fans for the most part don't know anything about the history of your team, whenever I ask one to name 3 players that weren't on the SB team I just get that deer in the headlights look. There is nothing original about your team, even the 12's was stolen from Texas A&M. Your team will never be considered one of the elite or dynasty teams.

It's ok to be excited about your team, the part I don't understand is the need to make sure any opposing fans they see know they're Hawk fans, I have had people clear across a restaurant from me come all the way over just to tell me they're Hawk fans (as if I couldn't tell from the head to toe Hawk gear). Then of course there's the fans sitting in a restaurant with us for almost an hour not saying a word until I get up to use the bathroom, then they feel the need to talk s**t to my wife and daughters and scare the crap out of my 4 year old granddaughter. Trust me brah, had they done that while I was sitting there, they'd a been picking up their teeth off the floor. Then the best one to date is the guy at the RV show at Centurylink that starts talking s**t about the 49ers to me and I'm not wearing any 49er gear, just a RED shirt, this is typical of your dumbass fanbase.

I can't wait to see what your team does next year when the cap takes it's toll on your chances of making anywhere diminish. I am going to laugh LMAO watching your bandwagoneers disappear like cockroaches when the light comes on.

GO 49ers!!

Brah, the Seahawks have already been working with the cap and have won a Super Bowl thanks to good drafts. How have we fared since the modern cap era came into place? 0 SBs. Their FO has just been better. As long as Pete and Schneider are there I don't see them stopping
Come back this time next year and tell how you're fairing, my guess is you wont, by this time next year your team and it's "12's" will have faded back into obscurity. I didn't say you haven't been working with the cap, but your team will have to pay RW more than rookie minimum, along with about 12 or so others that will be RFA and UFA. Not to mention no more Marshawn. Good luck.

Originally posted by Seattle49er:
Originally posted by Fav13259:
Originally posted by Seattle49er:
Originally posted by OahuHawkFan:
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
I live in the Seattle area, and the bandwagon is real. I respect the longtime fans who struggled through years of local blackouts, cheering for Dan McGuire and Rick Mirer, and I'm fine with them getting a trophy, but there are WAY too many people who were recently Steeler, Raider, Giant, Cowboy, Niner, Packer, and Patriot fans who are now "die hard" Hawk fans, talking about "We are gonna repeat," wearing their 12 jerseys when they can't even name 11 guys on the team.

I was willing to except it as my lot, living in hostile territory, but stuff involving my kid makes me nuts. Some middle-aged jackass at Safeway BOOED MY FIVE - YEAR - OLD for wearing a Niners shirt. He's a really friendly kid who says "hi" to everyone, and some leather-lipped gash snapped at him, "GO SEAHAWKS!!!" and glared at me for having the audacity to let my son walk around wearing non-Seahawk colors. Not drunk, not at the game, just garbage people.

My views are based on living here, and I never saw Seahawk flags on houses or trucks growing up. Part of the reason I was still a 49er fan after my folks split up (dad born in SF) was that the 49ers were on tv more than the Seahawks, because the "greatest fanbase on earth" couldn't sell out the dome. Going to games even 5 years ago was easy, because the fans appreciated someone spending money on their team, since home team fans weren't doing it.

Well, we clearly had very different experiences then. I lived in the puget sound area north of Seattle for 35+ years, and I couldn't disagree more. Sure there's fans of other teams. There's plenty of California (and other state) transplants in Washington State, so that explains it in part.

I've heard this nerative before on this board, and it seems like EVERY 49er fan who happens to live in or around Seattle emerges to tell a similar story. So clearly, there's probably something to it in your opinions... But it's a massive exageration to suggest there were not a lot of football fans in the Seattle area before recently. Have you thought about just how low the low years were? Ken Berring? Tom Flores? I mean, those were some tough times. But if you are willing to go back to the Chuck Knox years and survey the area, you would know there was a TON of rapid fans.

So yeah, I don't know when you moved to Seattle. But I think it's important to set the record straight from my perspective.

I've been here since 2007 when I left Oahu, you need to lose the Seahawk glasses Brah. Your fanbase has only grown in the last couple of years, probably when RW came on the scene. When I first got here and still to this day your fans are "fair weather fans", I remember just a couple of years ago when you guys went to the playoffs with a 9-7 record, you would be hard pressed to even find a Hawk jersey, now you can spit without hitting one. My problem is the fact that your fans for the most part don't know anything about the history of your team, whenever I ask one to name 3 players that weren't on the SB team I just get that deer in the headlights look. There is nothing original about your team, even the 12's was stolen from Texas A&M. Your team will never be considered one of the elite or dynasty teams.

It's ok to be excited about your team, the part I don't understand is the need to make sure any opposing fans they see know they're Hawk fans, I have had people clear across a restaurant from me come all the way over just to tell me they're Hawk fans (as if I couldn't tell from the head to toe Hawk gear). Then of course there's the fans sitting in a restaurant with us for almost an hour not saying a word until I get up to use the bathroom, then they feel the need to talk s**t to my wife and daughters and scare the crap out of my 4 year old granddaughter. Trust me brah, had they done that while I was sitting there, they'd a been picking up their teeth off the floor. Then the best one to date is the guy at the RV show at Centurylink that starts talking s**t about the 49ers to me and I'm not wearing any 49er gear, just a RED shirt, this is typical of your dumbass fanbase.

I can't wait to see what your team does next year when the cap takes it's toll on your chances of making anywhere diminish. I am going to laugh LMAO watching your bandwagoneers disappear like cockroaches when the light comes on.

GO 49ers!!

Brah, the Seahawks have already been working with the cap and have won a Super Bowl thanks to good drafts. How have we fared since the modern cap era came into place? 0 SBs. Their FO has just been better. As long as Pete and Schneider are there I don't see them stopping
Come back this time next year and tell how you're fairing, my guess is you wont, by this time next year your team and it's "12's" will have faded back into obscurity. I didn't say you haven't been working with the cap, but your team will have to pay RW more than rookie minimum, along with about 12 or so others that will be RFA and UFA. Not to mention no more Marshawn. Good luck.

You calling me a Seahawks fan brah? That hurts! I'm just pointing out that since the modern salary cap came into existence and since they came into the NFC West they have had our number more times than not and recently their FO has drafted better and hasn't been afraid to correct their mistakes ie, Start Wilson over Flynn, ship Percy Out, etc. while our FO still has Roman, and Krap is still starting!
You have a total of 4 post, most defending the Seahawks, if it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, its a duck.
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