Is the Green Bay vs. Seattle game one of the biggest meltdowns in NFL history?

Originally posted by simplyfloyd:
the better team did not win yesterday. Green bay outplayed them, and then seattle just got lucky. It happens...i really dont want seattle to win another superbowl but at this point it looks like they are just destined...they play hard and the crazy crap that no one can explain all happens for them right now

Interesting statement (one I've heard on the radio/TV often since the game ended)
While it's hard to overlook how dreadful the Hawks offense was in the first three quarters, when you look at the totality of the game, other than return yardage, turnovers and sacks - the Hawks 'won' essentially every major stat . . .
~ more 1st downs
~ better in RZ, 3rd down and 4th down efficiency
~ more passing AND more rushing yards
~ more average gain per passing play

Originally posted by Morgan49:
As soon as I saw him slide after the pic...i just knew something really bad was going to happen. I could not believe that. It looked to me that he had some blockers and could have gotten into easy FG territory. Maybe he thought there was a lot less than 5 minutes left. So f**king stupid either way. Makes me sick. That should have been returned as far as possible, run three times, kick thge FG...and f**k YOU seaturds...season over.

Those were the losers we saw the niners embarrass the last 2 years. GB going GB. I hate them more this morning than I ever have.

I had a terrible feeling after Seattle scored on the Wilson run. With the slippery conditions, the odds of them recovering an onside kick went up dramatically. It didn't surprise me at all that they were able to recover.

Man, what must the GB fan base be thinking about SEA. First it was the fail marry catch(that wasn't even a catch) and now this. It's unbelievable!

Originally posted by LisaTwelve:

Originally posted by simplyfloyd:
the better team did not win yesterday. Green bay outplayed them, and then seattle just got lucky. It happens...i really dont want seattle to win another superbowl but at this point it looks like they are just destined...they play hard and the crazy crap that no one can explain all happens for them right now

Interesting statement (one I've heard on the radio/TV often since the game ended)
While it's hard to overlook how dreadful the Hawks offense was in the first three quarters, when you look at the totality of the game, other than return yardage, turnovers and sacks - the Hawks 'won' essentially every major stat . . .
~ more 1st downs
~ better in RZ, 3rd down and 4th down efficiency
~ more passing AND more rushing yards
~ more average gain per passing play

That happens when teams are playing to catch up. Stats often do not tell the entire story.

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:

Originally posted by LisaTwelve:

Originally posted by simplyfloyd:
the better team did not win yesterday. Green bay outplayed them, and then seattle just got lucky. It happens...i really dont want seattle to win another superbowl but at this point it looks like they are just destined...they play hard and the crazy crap that no one can explain all happens for them right now

Interesting statement (one I've heard on the radio/TV often since the game ended)
While it's hard to overlook how dreadful the Hawks offense was in the first three quarters, when you look at the totality of the game, other than return yardage, turnovers and sacks - the Hawks 'won' essentially every major stat . . .
~ more 1st downs
~ better in RZ, 3rd down and 4th down efficiency
~ more passing AND more rushing yards
~ more average gain per passing play

That happens when teams are playing to catch up. Stats often do not tell the entire story.

its funny how some fans just cant accept a gift. gb outplayed seattle for most of the game but lost, it happens. nobody cares about yards when they're in a prevent. burnett should have milked that return for every yard he could. once he didnt i knew they were just thinking kill clock. dangerous way to play.

Originally posted by crabman82:
its funny how some fans just cant accept a gift. gb outplayed seattle for most of the game but lost, it happens. nobody cares about yards when they're in a prevent. burnett should have milked that return for every yard he could. once he didnt i knew they were just thinking kill clock. dangerous way to play.

With 5 min left!
The GB sideline was celebrating like they'd won already.

Originally posted by trooper49:

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:

Originally posted by trooper49:
I don't think it was as much a meltdown as it was ungodly luck for SEA. Everything that could go wrong in the last three minutes for GB did go wrong. The fake FG for a Touchdown, the two point conversion, the on sides kick, a dropped pass that would have given GB a first down. This all happened in three minutes. Look how many things had to happen for SEA for them to win. There may have been more that I haven't listed. All those breaks just can't happen in so short a time. It's unnatural.

No. This was the worst meltdown I've ever seen. GB gacked themselves. From the coaches to the every damn player on the packers. How do you not target sherman at all? My god, he had 1 good arm!
Dude intercepts wilson and has 10-15 open yards in front of him and he slides! 20 yards and your in FG range!
Wilson lofts a skyscraper hail mary for a 2 pt conversion and no one from the packers comes an inch from knocking it down. That fake FG was what everyone expected, except the packers.
No, this was choke job. Plain and simple.

It was a choke job, no doubt about that. I'm not saying it wasn't. But SEA wins games like this all the time. With incredibly lucky breaks. It's just the shear volume of lucky breaks that SEA gets, time and time again.

I think you're both right. Yes GB f*cked themselves over. The fake FG should have never happened. Aj Hawk let a goddam lineman whom he could have EASILY covered run right past him to get wide open. I was so pissed when I saw him run up to try to tackle the punter as if he was gonna run for the 1st down. There were already at least 2 Packer players who were gonna tackle him anyways. So if Hawk covers the guy, its either an incomplete pass, an interception, or tackle short of the 1st down. Either way, Packer ball, no points for the seaf*gs.

The onside kick meltdown was horrendous. How can a guy on the hands team look that badly? The wet conditions had nothing to do with that. It didn't slip through his hands, it just flat out hit him in the face. And nobody was even contesting it. Shoulda been an easy recovery, game over.

The slide after the late INT was dumb as f*ck too. Idk what dude was thinking. Coulda gotten into FG range at the very least. 3 more points woulda been huge
And why did they not target Sherman's b*tch ass after he was playing with 1 arm?

But even with all this, seattle still gets the luckiest breaks of all time. That 2 pt conversion pass actually looked hilarious to me when he released it. The trajectory on the ball looked like a pop up in baseball yet somehow it happens to find its way perfectly into the arms of that douchebag willson.

Man, I need to stop. I just get more enraged every time I re-live all this garbage in my mind...

Originally posted by SFGiant49ers:

Originally posted by trooper49:

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:

Originally posted by trooper49:
I don't think it was as much a meltdown as it was ungodly luck for SEA. Everything that could go wrong in the last three minutes for GB did go wrong. The fake FG for a Touchdown, the two point conversion, the on sides kick, a dropped pass that would have given GB a first down. This all happened in three minutes. Look how many things had to happen for SEA for them to win. There may have been more that I haven't listed. All those breaks just can't happen in so short a time. It's unnatural.

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No. This was the worst meltdown I've ever seen. GB gacked themselves. From the coaches to the every damn player on the packers. How do you not target sherman at all? My god, he had 1 good arm!
Dude intercepts wilson and has 10-15 open yards in front of him and he slides! 20 yards and your in FG range!
Wilson lofts a skyscraper hail mary for a 2 pt conversion and no one from the packers comes an inch from knocking it down. That fake FG was what everyone expected, except the packers.
No, this was choke job. Plain and simple.

It was a choke job, no doubt about that. I'm not saying it wasn't. But SEA wins games like this all the time. With incredibly lucky breaks. It's just the shear volume of lucky breaks that SEA gets, time and time again.

I think you're both right. Yes GB f*cked themselves over. The fake FG should have never happened. Aj Hawk let a goddam lineman whom he could have EASILY covered run right past him to get wide open. I was so pissed when I saw him run up to try to tackle the punter as if he was gonna run for the 1st down. There were already at least 2 Packer players who were gonna tackle him anyways. So if Hawk covers the guy, its either an incomplete pass, an interception, or tackle short of the 1st down. Either way, Packer ball, no points for the seaf*gs.

The onside kick meltdown was horrendous. How can a guy on the hands team look that badly? The wet conditions had nothing to do with that. It didn't slip through his hands, it just flat out hit him in the face. And nobody was even contesting it. Shoulda been an easy recovery, game over.

The slide after the late INT was dumb as f*ck too. Idk what dude was thinking. Coulda gotten into FG range at the very least. 3 more points woulda been huge
And why did they not target Sherman's b*tch ass after he was playing with 1 arm?

But even with all this, seattle still gets the luckiest breaks of all time. That 2 pt conversion pass actually looked hilarious to me when he released it. The trajectory on the ball looked like a pop up in baseball yet somehow it happens to find its way perfectly into the arms of that douchebag willson.

Man, I need to stop. I just get more enraged every time I re-live all this garbage in my mind...

Just imagine if it was our team breaking down in the final 5 minutes...

Pete Carroll sold his soul to the devil, only explanation.

Originally posted by crabman82:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:

Originally posted by LisaTwelve:

Originally posted by simplyfloyd:
the better team did not win yesterday. Green bay outplayed them, and then seattle just got lucky. It happens...i really dont want seattle to win another superbowl but at this point it looks like they are just destined...they play hard and the crazy crap that no one can explain all happens for them right now

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Interesting statement (one I've heard on the radio/TV often since the game ended)
While it's hard to overlook how dreadful the Hawks offense was in the first three quarters, when you look at the totality of the game, other than return yardage, turnovers and sacks - the Hawks 'won' essentially every major stat . . .
~ more 1st downs
~ better in RZ, 3rd down and 4th down efficiency
~ more passing AND more rushing yards
~ more average gain per passing play

That happens when teams are playing to catch up. Stats often do not tell the entire story.

its funny how some fans just cant accept a gift. gb outplayed seattle for most of the game but lost, it happens. nobody cares about yards when they're in a prevent. burnett should have milked that return for every yard he could. once he didnt i knew they were just thinking kill clock. dangerous way to play.

Operative phrase there "most of the game".
This was an EXTREME example of something Pete constantly preaches - it's not how you start, it's how you finish.

Up 12 points with 4 minutes left in the game? Ya, huge meltdown by GB. All they needed was a couple first downs to ice the game... AS it always seems to happen in Seattle, when it rains, it pours!

Not even close was that the biggest meltdown. I think when the 49ers came back against the New York Giants in the 2002 Playoffs was bigger than yesterdays game. Giants were up 35-14 at the 3rd quarter and couldn't score a single point for the rest of the game. How do you blow that lead in one and a half quarters?

Originally posted by LisaTwelve:

Originally posted by crabman82:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:

Originally posted by LisaTwelve:

Originally posted by simplyfloyd:
the better team did not win yesterday. Green bay outplayed them, and then seattle just got lucky. It happens...i really dont want seattle to win another superbowl but at this point it looks like they are just destined...they play hard and the crazy crap that no one can explain all happens for them right now

Interesting statement (one I've heard on the radio/TV often since the game ended)
While it's hard to overlook how dreadful the Hawks offense was in the first three quarters, when you look at the totality of the game, other than return yardage, turnovers and sacks - the Hawks 'won' essentially every major stat . . .
~ more 1st downs
~ better in RZ, 3rd down and 4th down efficiency
~ more passing AND more rushing yards
~ more average gain per passing play

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That happens when teams are playing to catch up. Stats often do not tell the entire story.

its funny how some fans just cant accept a gift. gb outplayed seattle for most of the game but lost, it happens. nobody cares about yards when they're in a prevent. burnett should have milked that return for every yard he could. once he didnt i knew they were just thinking kill clock. dangerous way to play.

Operative phrase there "most of the game".
This was an EXTREME example of something Pete constantly preaches - it's not how you start, it's how you finish.

That wasn't the point of your post though. You pointed to cumulative stats to contest the assertion that the better team lost yesterday. Stats are a poor indicator in this situation.

Edit: By the way, do you think Pete is the only coach who preaches that? My middle school basketball coach said the same s**t. For your information, he wasn't brilliant. Neither is Petey.

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:

Originally posted by crabman82:
its funny how some fans just cant accept a gift. gb outplayed seattle for most of the game but lost, it happens. nobody cares about yards when they're in a prevent. burnett should have milked that return for every yard he could. once he didnt i knew they were just thinking kill clock. dangerous way to play.

With 5 min left!
The GB sideline was celebrating like they'd won already.

I had a very bad feeling with that slide. I was thinkng run that toward the sideline and upfield as far as possible. They could have run three times milking the clock until the two minute warning at least with just three runs. Kick the FG and get the f**k outa there. Too bad Burnett isn't half the baller Gore is. Gore killed the seapukes with his headsy play. Burnett...not so much.