Eric Mangini Thread

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:

Wait a second, are you telling me that while Bill Parcells was the coach of the NY Jets, one of his ASSISTANTS hired his own assistant? Do you actually know who Bill Parcells is?

Belichick had worked with Mangini previously. Parcells did not. If you connect the dots, Belichick most likely recommended Mangini to Parcells and the hire was made. It's not hard to figure out.

Mangini followed Belichick to 3 different stops. That doesn't happen unless Belichick likes him as a coach.

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Sorry to butt in...Mangini was hired by Belichick on many occassions...what other former assistants were rehired as often? Just a thought...or a question.

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:

I've got this.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2010/10/a_football_fans_guide_to_the_e.html
Does talk about being hired by Bellichick under Browns. And considering him a mentor.

Should have read the first line: "Bill Belichick and Eric Mangini used to be as close as a father and son."

Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:

Connect anything you want. When Mangini was hired at NY, it was Parcells who hired him. Assistant coaches do not hire.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
Connect anything you want. When Mangini was hired at NY, it was Parcells who hired him. Assistant coaches do not hire.

Yeah, youre right, Parcells just magically dug out the name of an obscure defensive assistant that he had no history with but his defensive coordinator thought highly of enough to get him his first NFL coaching gig with the Ravens.


Mangini jumping ship immediately with Belichick to New England was also a coincidence.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:

Connect anything you want. When Mangini was hired at NY, it was Parcells who hired him. Assistant coaches do not hire.

Yeah, youre right, Parcells just magically dug out the name of an obscure defensive assistant that he had no history with but his defensive coordinator thought highly of enough to get him his first NFL coaching gig with the Ravens.


Mangini jumping ship immediately with Belichick to New England was also a coincidence.

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:

Connect anything you want. When Mangini was hired at NY, it was Parcells who hired him. Assistant coaches do not hire.

Yeah, youre right, Parcells just magically dug out the name of an obscure defensive assistant that he had no history with but his defensive coordinator thought highly of enough to get him his first NFL coaching gig with the Ravens.


Mangini jumping ship immediately with Belichick to New England was also a coincidence.

lol this.

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:

Connect anything you want. When Mangini was hired at NY, it was Parcells who hired him. Assistant coaches do not hire.

Yeah, youre right, Parcells just magically dug out the name of an obscure defensive assistant that he had no history with but his defensive coordinator thought highly of enough to get him his first NFL coaching gig with the Ravens.


Mangini jumping ship immediately with Belichick to New England was also a coincidence.

lol this.

Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
Ok, show me a link that states that Bellichick hired Mangini in NY. Otherwise what exactly are you trying to say?

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
Ok, show me a link that states that Bellichick hired Mangini in NY. Otherwise what exactly are you trying to say?

Lol.

The Oakland and Kansas City defenses of the 1970's perfected it and called it the jam. The fierce Philadelphia defenses of the early 1990's called it No Free Access. Both Super Bowl XXXVIII defenses on Sunday will showcase it and call it rerouting. It is the art of pass defenders who bump, push and sometimes manhandle receivers near the line of scrimmage, knocking receivers off their routes and ruining their timing with quarterbacks. Both New England and Carolina excel at the tactic, and both believe they can successfully use it to win the championship.

''Basically, rerouting receivers means trying to prevent them from running in a straight line to where they want to run,'' Eric Mangini, New England's secondary coach, said. ''Most offenses are based on timing and with receivers reaching certain landmarks on the field. Rerouting them makes them find another landmark.''

Effectively controlling a passing offense always requires combining a harassing pass rush with gluelike pass coverage. The way the Patriots and the Panthers reroute receivers, both pass defenders and pass rushers negate pass offenses.

''A few years ago when you could nail receivers all over the field before the ball was thrown, pass defenses had a big edge,'' said Rod Perry, Carolina's secondary coach and former Pro Bowl cornerback who played 10 N.F.L. seasons, most of them with the Rams. ''Mel Blount in Pittsburgh was 6-3, and he just planted and killed guys all over the field on the way to the Hall of Fame. But when the rules were changed 15 or so years ago to allow you to contact receivers no more than 5 yards after the line of scrimmage, it made it tougher.''

''But that is still enough space to have an impact,'' Perry added. ''And you couple that with hard hits after catches, and receivers sometimes start to get chicken arms and start dropping balls. Every defensive back wants that, for receivers to concentrate more on you than catching the football.''

Rerouting receivers is not limited to cornerbacks versus receivers. Tight ends are rerouted most often by linebackers or safeties. Running backs are rerouted by linemen as they leave the backfield on pass patterns.

Both the Patriots and the Panthers excelled at the rerouting tactic in their conference championship games.

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:

Ok, show me a link that states that Bellichick hired Mangini in NY. Otherwise what exactly are you trying to say?

Lol.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Some people like to argue just for the sake of arguing, I dunno.

Oakland Raiders owner Al Davis and Patriots defensive backs coach Eric Mangini have something in common: a commitment to excellence. And Davis was so set on hiring Mangini to direct the league's 30th-ranked defense that he was willing to make the 33-year-old Mangini the highest-paid first-year defensive coordinator ever. According to league sources familiar with the negotiations (which took place by phone last weekend), Davis offered Mangini a three-year commitment worth slightly more than $2 million. There's more: The Raiders, according to the sources, also discussed an interest-free home loan and care for Mangini's wife, who is due to give birth soon. Apparently Mangini felt more comfortable committing for another year to an organization that has won two Super Bowls in three seasons rather than one in transition.