Eric Mangini Thread

Originally posted by Luckycharms:

Originally posted by thl408:

Defensive front stays rooted in a 3-4 base. Defensive backs are most likely to continue and employ pattern match principles. I think it's a safe hire that serves to not deviate too much from the previous scheme under Fangio. There's no all22 film from 2010, which was the last time Mangini held a HC position.

Also thl I read somewhere that Mangini runs a little different 3-4 from Fangio in terms of the NT position, he runs a 2 gap 3-4 which might require us to get a bigger NT to eat up blocks where as Fangio's was a 1 gap. Do you think Williams or Dorsey could be those type of players or are they too small? When you get a chance can you touch on this subject and if this is a big deal in terms of our overall defense or is it something minor. Sorry if it's already been brought up, like i said in a previous post I haven't been able to go through all 25 pages of this thread yet.

Originally posted by Luckycharms:
Sorry if this has been brought up at some point in this thread cus I haven't gotten the chance to go through all 25+ pages, but a closer look at Mangini's DC job in 2005 with the pats isn't as bad as it seems once you look at the numbers. That pats team broke a record for injuries at the time with 46 different starters. They had some big injuries to big time players. (Teddy B, Ty Law, Rodney Harrison).
The Pats had the bye in week 7 of 2005. During the first 6 weeks leading up to the bye, they averaged around 350 yards and 27 points allowed per game. The Patriots defense averaged around 310 yards and 16 points allowed per game following their bye in week 7 in 2005. That is a huge difference in points allowed, and shows that it took some time for the D to come together, but once it did it returned to pre-Mangini form despite having a lot of inexperienced players in the line-up.
The pats started the year 4-4 but then finished with a 10-6 record. I think Mangini will be just fine as a D coordinator. He already knows our players and our division opponents.

Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
We are scraping the barrel!

Originally posted by jonesadrian:

Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
We are scraping the barrel!

disagree. if we get perry we're stacked on the defensive side of the ball and it would actually bring credibility to what baalke said about the coaching staff going forward.

Originally posted by Frisco69ers:

Originally posted by flynhayn15:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by kray28:

Perry Fewell is the guy who just got run out of New York City by an angry band of foaming at the mouth Vagiant fans.

Happened to Fangio and Donatell a few times as well, plus Fewell is not going to be calling the plays, just coaching up the DB's, something he did a tremendous job of when he was secondary coach with the Jaguars.

Fewell was the defensive coordinator when the Giants won the super bowl. Without looking it up, can you name one DB on that super bowl team? That was the team decimated by injuries at corner. They drafted Amukamara and he was hurt all season. I would say that he did a pretty good job maximizing his DBs. That was also the year the giants went on the road and stopped Rodgers at Green Bay when he was the MVP of the league, beat us the in Kyle Williams game, and then beat the Patriots. If you are gonna complain about him as our DB coach then, you would have found something to complain about anyone they would have hired.

Terrel Thomas, Corey Webster, Prince, Jayron Housley,

Originally posted by okdkid:
Yup. And if we somehow end up with Chud -- that would be five (I think) coaches on our staff who have been a head coach in the NFL. Tomsula, Mangini, Fewell, Chud, Sparano.

Originally posted by pdizo916:

fewell has been a head coach? And I wouldn't include Tomsula on the list even though he had one interim game as a head coach.

Originally posted by Harbaalke:
Guys like Cox and Culliver will probably go with Fangio

Originally posted by TheRathman44:
I find this thread amusing. Just because Mangini is the new DC does not mean that, all of a sudden, Willis, Bowman, The Smith Bros (hopefully), Reid, and Bethea are all going to suck.

This defense is still loaded, and with Mangini's knowledge, and aggressive style, they may actually be better for it. How many times were we burned because of lack of pass rush, or the corners lining up ten yards off the ball on 3rd and 8?