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Originally posted by blizzuntz:
no

we were the 26th lowest blitzing team in the NFL.

Patriots were 29 th and won the SB, Seattle was also a bottom tier team at blitzing at 24th lowest.

26th...32nd. Not much difference is there? Over the Harbaugh tenure I believe we've been the lowest; if not, pretty close.

But your point is excellent. Mangini comes from the same off coverage schemes as Bellicheck and Fangio and why blitz when you don't have too? As long as your front is getting there you're golden.

But causing pre-snap and post-snap confusion can lead to easier pressure for your front as well. I like this approach.
[ Edited by NCommand on May 30, 2015 at 5:35 AM ]
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i'd feel much better with Tomsula as DC. Fangio as HC and anyone besides geep as OC.
Originally posted by ChazBoner:
i'd feel much better with Tomsula as DC. Fangio as HC and anyone besides geep as OC.

Toooo late now.
Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Originally posted by ChazBoner:
i'd feel much better with Tomsula as DC. Fangio as HC and anyone besides geep as OC.

Toooo late now.

Chaz. Lol
Originally posted by ChazBoner:
i'd feel much better with Tomsula as DC. Fangio as HC and anyone besides geep as OC.

doesn't really make sense. Tomsula still controls the defense. We have no idea if Fangio can run a team and Geep isn't a soldier anymore he's a commander. From all accounts it was pretty restrictive the last 4 years. We want this, you do it, the floor is not open for suggestions.
How can anyone not reading this not be out of sight anxious for the season to start ? There are so many "what ifs" . that this season will be a puzzle right up to the opening gun. I for one have no idea what actually happens, altho my expectations are pretty darn high. Last yr may have been the hardest yr ever, when with all that talent, it just flat out got wasted. I'm ready for a do-over. Never has so much depended on coaching as this one. Coaching is always important, but this yr, nobody really knows what is coming....so I'm a glass half full .
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
How can anyone not reading this not be out of sight anxious for the season to start ? There are so many "what ifs" . that this season will be a puzzle right up to the opening gun. I for one have no idea what actually happens, altho my expectations are pretty darn high. Last yr may have been the hardest yr ever, when with all that talent, it just flat out got wasted. I'm ready for a do-over. Never has so much depended on coaching as this one. Coaching is always important, but this yr, nobody really knows what is coming....so I'm a glass half full .

I'm definitely of the "glass half full" mentality too. We have so much talented youth on defense that it's crazy.

Dial,Tank,Armstead,Lynch,Aldon,Ward,Tarrt,Reid,DJ,Reaser...Damn!
Mangini is a former nose tackle himself but his best coaching experience was with the secondary.

I think the collective efforts between Tomsula (HC), Mangini (DC), and the positional guys Brown (DL), Tarver (LB), and Lewis (DB), we have a very, very good overall defensive coaching group.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Mangini is a former nose tackle himself but his best coaching experience was with the secondary.

I think the collective efforts between Tomsula (HC), Mangini (DC), and the positional guys Brown (DL), Tarver (LB), and Lewis (DB), we have a very, very good overall defensive coaching group.

If the coaching staff can maximize the talent that we have on defense, we'll have an elite defensive unit for the foreseeable future.
Originally posted by ChazBoner:
i'd feel much better with Tomsula as DC. Fangio as HC and anyone besides geep as OC.

Other than this offseason with us, when is the last time Fangio had an interview to be HC anywhere?

Yes, I know Tomsula hasn't had NFL HC interviews but at least he has HC experience.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Mangini is a former nose tackle himself but his best coaching experience was with the secondary.

I think the collective efforts between Tomsula (HC), Mangini (DC), and the positional guys Brown (DL), Tarver (LB), and Lewis (DB), we have a very, very good overall defensive coaching group.
Tarver, Pendergast and Lewis have experience as D coordinators with Mangini having good /bad experience as head coach and coordinator.
Originally posted by ModestoNiner33:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Mangini is a former nose tackle himself but his best coaching experience was with the secondary.

I think the collective efforts between Tomsula (HC), Mangini (DC), and the positional guys Brown (DL), Tarver (LB), and Lewis (DB), we have a very, very good overall defensive coaching group.
Tarver, Pendergast and Lewis have experience as D coordinators with Mangini having good /bad experience as head coach and coordinator.

Forgot to include Pendergast in there as well -- who is an exceptionally bright defensive mind also -- to even furthermore bolster the idea that a staff like that working together should produce good things with the talent we have.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
no

we were the 26th lowest blitzing team in the NFL.

Patriots were 29 th and won the SB, Seattle was also a bottom tier team at blitzing at 24th lowest.

26th...32nd. Not much difference is there? Over the Harbaugh tenure I believe we've been the lowest; if not, pretty close.

But your point is excellent. Mangini comes from the same off coverage schemes as Bellicheck and Fangio and why blitz when you don't have too? As long as your front is getting there you're golden.

But causing pre-snap and post-snap confusion can lead to easier pressure for your front as well. I like this approach.

Yeah, prefer an efficient 4man Rush With 2 dominant edge rushers on each side, and when we do blitz with 5 let it be efficient.

We actually were efficient with Harbaugh (including last year) blitzing, but not as efficient as prior years with a standard 4 man rush last year.
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
no

we were the 26th lowest blitzing team in the NFL.

Patriots were 29 th and won the SB, Seattle was also a bottom tier team at blitzing at 24th lowest.

26th...32nd. Not much difference is there? Over the Harbaugh tenure I believe we've been the lowest; if not, pretty close.

But your point is excellent. Mangini comes from the same off coverage schemes as Bellicheck and Fangio and why blitz when you don't have too? As long as your front is getting there you're golden.

But causing pre-snap and post-snap confusion can lead to easier pressure for your front as well. I like this approach.

Yeah, prefer an efficient 4man Rush With 2 dominant edge rushers on each side, and when we do blitz with 5 let it be efficient.

We actually were efficient with Harbaugh (including last year) blitzing, but not as efficient as prior years with a standard 4 man rush last year.

Agreed. I think we have to remember that Justin was messed up all year and couldn't finish out the final 3 games. Dial, a natural 6'6" LDE was forced to play NT and learn on the fly, both Williams and Dorsey were down, McDonald was cut and even TJE had to start several games. Your point is well taken...if you can get pressure with Dial (LDE) - Dorsey (NT) - AA/Carradine (RDE) while basically rushing the WILL (Aldon/Eli), go for it! Then when you DO bring the blitz, it should be very effective if timed right. I don't think the added element of blitzing is absolutely needed...just another tool in the tool box to use. It sounds like Mangini, while he's ensured to blitz more than Fangio, is more about causing pre-snap and post-snap confusion with personnel, where they line up, disguises, etc. and that's been the missing element of our 3-4 compared to all other 3-4's IMHO. Granted, we didn't "have to" and that's sort of the point too.
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
How can anyone not reading this not be out of sight anxious for the season to start ? There are so many "what ifs" . that this season will be a puzzle right up to the opening gun. I for one have no idea what actually happens, altho my expectations are pretty darn high. Last yr may have been the hardest yr ever, when with all that talent, it just flat out got wasted. I'm ready for a do-over. Never has so much depended on coaching as this one. Coaching is always important, but this yr, nobody really knows what is coming....so I'm a glass half full .

I'm really curious what they are going to "show" during preseason if anything.
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