Eric Mangini Thread

.. and you're Dad is Michael Sams.. lol

Originally posted by 9moon:
.. and you're Dad is Michael Sams.. lol

http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/free-agency/179988-michael-sam-anyone/

Do you even remember what you post ?

Originally posted by 9moon:
You know, McCray and Tartt may just become that TANDEM we haven't had since Hicks and Williamson or even Lott and Fuller!!

Good point!

I can't wait for the season to start to ram it down the throats of the media clones/

I know what I post... I like McCray last year, and I really like Tartt's ability.. what's wrong with them being THAT next superstars??

Originally posted by NCommand:
Try here: http://www.ninersnation.com/ > scroll down to: Better Rivals: Hybrid players and the 49ers D

Wanted to list some of the stats that the podcast threw out that I found very interesting. First, a few terms they used:

Blitz: 5 or more pass rushers
Big Blitz : 6 or more pass rushers

Mangini as a head coach (CLE, NYJ):
- The percentage of the time when he rushed 4 (standard pass rush) was dead last in every season except for in his 2nd season as NYJ, where he was 31st. So he rarely rushes 4 when compared to the rest of the league. Rushing 3 is considered not rushing 4 so this isn't exactly his blitz percentage.

Mangini in first year in NYJ had a Big Blitz percentage of 15.5%. Compared to Fangio's blitz percentage of 17% in 2012. So Mangini sent nearly as many big blitzes as Fangio sent any blitz.

Overall, Mangini's blitz percentage in his years as a head coach (NYJ, CLE) were between 30-45%.

Manigni's defensive coordinator in NYJ was Bob Sutton (currently DC in KCA). In CLE, the defensive coordinator was Rob Ryan (currently DC in NO).

Vic Fangio Blitz (5 or more) percentage:
2012: 17%
2013: 19.5%
2014: 20.5%

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Try here: http://www.ninersnation.com/ > scroll down to: Better Rivals: Hybrid players and the 49ers D

Wanted to list some of the stats that the podcast threw out that I found very interesting. First, a few terms they used:

Blitz: 5 or more pass rushers
Big Blitz : 6 or more pass rushers

Mangini as a head coach (CLE, NYJ):
- The percentage of the time when he rushed 4 (standard pass rush) was dead last in every season except for in his 2nd season as NYJ, where he was 31st. So he rarely rushes 4 when compared to the rest of the league. Rushing 3 is considered not rushing 4 so this isn't exactly his blitz percentage.

Mangini in first year in NYJ had a Big Blitz percentage of 15.5%. Compared to Fangio's blitz percentage of 17% in 2012. So Mangini sent nearly as many big blitzes as Fangio sent any blitz.

Overall, Mangini's blitz percentage in his years as a head coach (NYJ, CLE) were between 30-45%.

Manigni's defensive coordinator in NYJ was Bob Sutton (currently DC in KCA). In CLE, the defensive coordinator was Rob Ryan (currently DC in NO).

Vic Fangio Blitz (5 or more) percentage:
2012: 17%
2013: 19.5%
2014: 20.5%

I'd say we've found a very serious difference in philosophy and should be a nice segway into more realistic expectations for 2016. We're going to bring pressure. And we're going to disguise it pre and post snap. Now, I know Mangini said, the amount we blitz is determined by the opponents we face, so it could be 30 times in a game or just 3 but overall, I think these numbers will give you a good idea of what to expect.

Now, the next question is, when QB's are blitzed, they typically have to pass quicker and hit their hot reads. One way to stifle the quick pass is tighter coverage up at the LOS (i.e. bump-n-run/press, jam-press, etc.).

Does anyone know how he used his CB's on the majority of these blitzes? And who he used TO blitz...ILB's, OLB's, S's, CB's, etc.

Originally posted by 9moon:
I know what I post... I like McCray last year, and I really like Tartt's ability.. what's wrong with them being THAT next superstars??

same reason you said Hyde cant be

im just using your logic about hyde

and from your posts, its looks like you might be Sams BF

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Try here: http://www.ninersnation.com/ > scroll down to: Better Rivals: Hybrid players and the 49ers D

Wanted to list some of the stats that the podcast threw out that I found very interesting. First, a few terms they used:

Blitz: 5 or more pass rushers
Big Blitz : 6 or more pass rushers

Mangini as a head coach (CLE, NYJ):
- The percentage of the time when he rushed 4 (standard pass rush) was dead last in every season except for in his 2nd season as NYJ, where he was 31st. So he rarely rushes 4 when compared to the rest of the league. Rushing 3 is considered not rushing 4 so this isn't exactly his blitz percentage.

Mangini in first year in NYJ had a Big Blitz percentage of 15.5%. Compared to Fangio's blitz percentage of 17% in 2012. So Mangini sent nearly as many big blitzes as Fangio sent any blitz.

Overall, Mangini's blitz percentage in his years as a head coach (NYJ, CLE) were between 30-45%.

Manigni's defensive coordinator in NYJ was Bob Sutton (currently DC in KCA). In CLE, the defensive coordinator was Rob Ryan (currently DC in NO).

Vic Fangio Blitz (5 or more) percentage:
2012: 17%
2013: 19.5%
2014: 20.5%

I'd say we've found a very serious difference in philosophy and should be a nice segway into more realistic expectations for 2016. We're going to bring pressure. And we're going to disguise it pre and post snap. Now, I know Mangini said, the amount we blitz is determined by the opponents we face, so it could be 30 times in a game or just 3 but overall, I think these numbers will give you a good idea of what to expect.

Now, the next question is, when QB's are blitzed, they typically have to pass quicker and hit their hot reads. One way to stifle the quick pass is tighter coverage up at the LOS (i.e. bump-n-run/press, jam-press, etc.).

Does anyone know how he used his CB's on the majority of these blitzes? And who he used TO blitz...ILB's, OLB's, S's, CB's, etc.

I'm surprised Fangio was that high last year--20%! My recollection of Mangini's blitz packages is that he sent guys from just about anywhere on the field. He's stated that the key is confusing the offense and forcing them into mistakes...even if they don't get to the QB. He also said that if the offense knows who is likely to blitz it diminishes the impact.

While Mangini's D may be more exciting and fun, it might also give up some big plays. Might also get the D off the field faster and keep them fresher for late games. Trade offs I'd be willing to accept. One bad thing about Fangio's D was how much it put on the DL to play long minutes and take constant double teams.

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Try here: http://www.ninersnation.com/ > scroll down to: Better Rivals: Hybrid players and the 49ers D

Wanted to list some of the stats that the podcast threw out that I found very interesting. First, a few terms they used:

Blitz: 5 or more pass rushers
Big Blitz : 6 or more pass rushers

Mangini as a head coach (CLE, NYJ):
- The percentage of the time when he rushed 4 (standard pass rush) was dead last in every season except for in his 2nd season as NYJ, where he was 31st. So he rarely rushes 4 when compared to the rest of the league. Rushing 3 is considered not rushing 4 so this isn't exactly his blitz percentage.

Mangini in first year in NYJ had a Big Blitz percentage of 15.5%. Compared to Fangio's blitz percentage of 17% in 2012. So Mangini sent nearly as many big blitzes as Fangio sent any blitz.

Overall, Mangini's blitz percentage in his years as a head coach (NYJ, CLE) were between 30-45%.

Manigni's defensive coordinator in NYJ was Bob Sutton (currently DC in KCA). In CLE, the defensive coordinator was Rob Ryan (currently DC in NO).

Vic Fangio Blitz (5 or more) percentage:
2012: 17%
2013: 19.5%
2014: 20.5%

I'd say we've found a very serious difference in philosophy and should be a nice segway into more realistic expectations for 2016. We're going to bring pressure. And we're going to disguise it pre and post snap. Now, I know Mangini said, the amount we blitz is determined by the opponents we face, so it could be 30 times in a game or just 3 but overall, I think these numbers will give you a good idea of what to expect.

Now, the next question is, when QB's are blitzed, they typically have to pass quicker and hit their hot reads. One way to stifle the quick pass is tighter coverage up at the LOS (i.e. bump-n-run/press, jam-press, etc.).

Does anyone know how he used his CB's on the majority of these blitzes? And who he used TO blitz...ILB's, OLB's, S's, CB's, etc.

I'm surprised Fangio was that high last year--20%! My recollection of Mangini's blitz packages is that he sent guys from just about anywhere on the field. He's stated that the key is confusing the offense and forcing them into mistakes...even if they don't get to the QB. He also said that if the offense knows who is likely to blitz it diminishes the impact.

While Mangini's D may be more exciting and fun, it might also give up some big plays. Might also get the D off the field faster and keep them fresher for late games. Trade offs I'd be willing to accept. One bad thing about Fangio's D was how much it put on the DL to play long minutes and take constant double teams.

Perfectly said Command, thier is a reason he was let go in the past. But as humans we can learn an I want to see if he did unger Fangio.

Originally posted by verb1der:


Mangini : Once you see that ball I need you to jump up as high as you can and try and hug it!

Vernon looks f**king bored out of his mind.

lol..

actually, if you look at it longer and closer, it's Man-Genuis who looks confuse and asking VD if he's suppose to run the Flag or the Corner Route!!

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by verb1der:

Mangini : Once you see that ball I need you to jump up as high as you can and try and hug it!

Vernon looks f**king bored out of his mind.

He has the classic hand on chin thinking position while prentending to care.

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by verb1der:


Mangini : Once you see that ball I need you to jump up as high as you can and try and hug it!

Vernon looks f**king bored out of his mind.

He has the classic hand on chin thinking position while prentending to care

terrible hire in that position. of course not sure if any sort of coaching could have helped vernon or that offense,,,, i think eric has now been placed in a spot where he has had success and knows what to do. it is about finding the right spot for coaches as much as it is for players

VD's asleep I think???

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by verb1der:


Mangini : Once you see that ball I need you to jump up as high as you can and try and hug it!

Vernon looks f**king bored out of his mind.

He has the classic hand on chin thinking position while prentending to care

terrible hire in that position. of course not sure if any sort of coaching could have helped vernon or that offense,,,, i think eric has now been placed in a spot where he has had success and knows what to do. it is about finding the right spot for coaches as much as it is for players

technically mangenius was hired what, (as an offensive consultant? dont remember) but yeah. dont understand what they were thinking