Eric Mangini Thread

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
What ever the case is i just hope that 1 year he took over as TE's coach didn't scramble his brain n he starts experimenting with crazy schemes just because he saw different things on the offensive side of the ball.

If he sticks to his old game plan like the one he had as the Jets DC then we should be fine but idk something tells me he wants to make a name for himself once again n he might just screw around with his original game plan. Hope i am wrong though.

No doubt he probably wants repair his coaching image, but he talked about how being away from the game humbled him. He's not that stubborn, dictator type he tried to be when he was younger. He's more experienced now and should be better than he was before. Our defense is still pretty talented, so he has a lot of good chess pieces to work with.

Hope you're right i mean stubbornness can only get you so far hope he's learned from his past.

Originally posted by crake49:
Our experience at the end of the 2012 season should be enough to convince anyone that the best way to make a secondary look good is to successfully rush the passer.

Unless our front seven suddenly become the 1985 Bears and generate sacks after sacks, pressure the QBs non stop at every angle, I will continue to worry about our CBs..

Are you talking about the 2012 Giant loss??

If I remember, even with a great performance by our front seven then was not enough to keep Eli from throwing a TD against Brock..

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by crake49:
Our experience at the end of the 2012 season should be enough to convince anyone that the best way to make a secondary look good is to successfully rush the passer.

Unless our front seven suddenly become the 1985 Bears and generate sacks after sacks, pressure the QBs non stop at every angle, I will continue to worry about our CBs..

Are you talking about the 2012 Giant loss??

If I remember, even with a great performance by our front seven then was not enough to keep Eli from throwing a TD against Brock..

still stuck in the past ..1985 really

How many times did Eli throw TD against Brock ?

1985 Bears D?

that's just a sample of a great front 7 that I wish we can BE so that I wont have to worry about our CBs..

Eli threw enough (one) against Brock which practically cracked our back..

Originally posted by 9moon:
1985 Bears D?

that's just a sample of a great front 7 that I wish we can BE so that I wont have to worry about our CBs..

Eli threw enough (one) against Brock which practically cracked our back..

So no one threw a TD against the 85 Bears defense ?

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
I dont know who worries me more Geep or Eric as our new coordinators. Very worried on both sides of the ball with these 2 dudes.

Not really worried about Mangini. He's very experienced, considered a smart football mind, and learned from one of the best ever.

Geep, I'm more worried about. Been highly skeptical of every O-coordinator we've hired the past decade or so, because most ended being failures and had the track records to indicate they wouldn't be successful to begin with.

Not saying Geep is going to suck, maybe he's able to improve the offense and the coaching staff is saying all the right things, but I wish we got someone a little more credible. We never seem to be able to find that guy. Meanwhile you see teams like the Ravens lose Jim Caldwell, then Kubiak and Dennison, but then are able to grab Trestman and Mornhinweg to take over. The Steelers lose Whisenhunt, then get Arians, then get Todd Haley. It's very frustrating to strike out time and time again on the better OC candidates. Just have to hope Chryst knows what he's doing.

Absolutely frustrating!

Both Carroll and Mike Shanahan were awesome OC's.

I can't recall if we've has even a very good one since.

I hope Geep has learned from his past, goes down into the vault and comes up with an Attacking Offense!

No country ever won a war fighting it defensively!

Last year it seemed we played to get FG - LOSER!

We need to come out and be high powered.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9moon:
1985 Bears D?

that's just a sample of a great front 7 that I wish we can BE so that I wont have to worry about our CBs..

Eli threw enough (one) against Brock which practically cracked our back..

So no one threw a TD against the 85 Bears defense ?

Not enough TDs to get keep them out ot the Super Bowl..

I'm neutral on Geep depending on what he does. But remember, he , along with every other coach under harbaw was working under the tight leash of harbaw. It could very well be that Geep is a whiz bang but was completely muted under harbaw, because he wanted everything done his way ...or the hiway. There was no coaching dissension under harbaw or you got your azz airmailed to the unemployment lines. So even tho geep has been here, we have NOT seen what the guy is capable of. So any preconceived thots about him should be held til we see what he's got...or not. I hate to see Geep or anyone else for that matter, rated on basis of work done under harbaw. The guy was obsolete in his O knowledge, philosophy, and gameplanning..., but will make a great Michigan coach who loses to Urban Meyer every yr until Urban quits or harbaw gets fired.

Let's see what Geep puts out there and THEN make up our minds. I fault him for nothing done under harbaw, as he had no other options but the harbaw way, as weak as it was against the great teams. Did ok against the chumps, but when great or superior O Coaching was required, harbaw bombed.

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9moon:
1985 Bears D?

that's just a sample of a great front 7 that I wish we can BE so that I wont have to worry about our CBs..

Eli threw enough (one) against Brock which practically cracked our back..

So no one threw a TD against the 85 Bears defense ?

Not enough TDs to get keep them out ot the Super Bowl..

actually 9moon is right. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_Chicago_Bears_season If you look at their season schedule including the playoffs they really only played two really good passing offenses all season long(niners and dolphins) one of which they lost. They might have played more then just that, but look at their playoffs the rams and patriots were running teams. The giants had simms but no one would mistake them as a passing team with Parcells as a headcoach. You cant drop only three players into coverage nearly every play anymore the passing games are to good at getting the ball out quickly.

Originally posted by philosoraptor:

actually 9moon is right. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_Chicago_Bears_season If you look at their season schedule including the playoffs they really only played two really good passing offenses all season long(niners and dolphins) one of which they lost. They might have played more then just that, but look at their playoffs the rams and patriots were running teams. The giants had simms but no one would mistake them as a passing team with Parcells as a headcoach. You cant drop only three players into coverage nearly every play anymore the passing games are to good at getting the ball out quickly.

Hey, if Greg Roman was a DC.... All you would see is three dropping back... Period....

You would also see the ball snapped while the defense is in the huddle waiting for the play 70% of the time:

Originally posted by Geeked:

Originally posted by philosoraptor:
actually 9moon is right. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_Chicago_Bears_season If you look at their season schedule including the playoffs they really only played two really good passing offenses all season long(niners and dolphins) one of which they lost. They might have played more then just that, but look at their playoffs the rams and patriots were running teams. The giants had simms but no one would mistake them as a passing team with Parcells as a headcoach. You cant drop only three players into coverage nearly every play anymore the passing games are to good at getting the ball out quickly.

Hey, if Greg Roman was a DC.... All you would see is three dropping back... Period....

You would also see the ball snapped while the defense is in the huddle waiting for the play 70% of the time:

LOLOL Greg roman is still in the 80's for sure.

Originally posted by philosoraptor:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9moon:
1985 Bears D?

that's just a sample of a great front 7 that I wish we can BE so that I wont have to worry about our CBs..

Eli threw enough (one) against Brock which practically cracked our back..

So no one threw a TD against the 85 Bears defense ?

Not enough TDs to get keep them out ot the Super Bowl..

actually 9moon is right. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_Chicago_Bears_season If you look at their season schedule including the playoffs they really only played two really good passing offenses all season long(niners and dolphins) one of which they lost. They might have played more then just that, but look at their playoffs the rams and patriots were running teams. The giants had simms but no one would mistake them as a passing team with Parcells as a headcoach. You cant drop only three players into coverage nearly every play anymore the passing games are to good at getting the ball out quickly.

he isn't right, The question was ..did the bears not allow a Pass reception TD ?

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by philosoraptor:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9moon:
1985 Bears D?

that's just a sample of a great front 7 that I wish we can BE so that I wont have to worry about our CBs..

Eli threw enough (one) against Brock which practically cracked our back..

So no one threw a TD against the 85 Bears defense ?

Not enough TDs to get keep them out ot the Super Bowl..

actually 9moon is right. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_Chicago_Bears_season If you look at their season schedule including the playoffs they really only played two really good passing offenses all season long(niners and dolphins) one of which they lost. They might have played more then just that, but look at their playoffs the rams and patriots were running teams. The giants had simms but no one would mistake them as a passing team with Parcells as a headcoach. You cant drop only three players into coverage nearly every play anymore the passing games are to good at getting the ball out quickly.

he isn't right, The question was ..did the bears not allow a Pass reception TD ?

oh yeah they did. Thats dumb. the only way people got td's was through the pass cause they blitzed all game.

I DIDN'T say that the Bears DID NOT ALLOW.. all i said was that they did not allow ENOUGH td passes that kept them out of the Super Bowl..

You're asking too many DUMB questions that you're confusing yourself.. when all i said was the CBs are the one that worries me the most..

they worry me the most.. there is NO right or wrong on that because it's just my opinion... so don't try to outsmart yourself..

if you rather have HOTDOGS & MEATBALLS over TACOS, then suite yoursef..

Originally posted by 9moon:
if you rather have HOTDOGS & MEATBALLS over TACOS, then suite yoursef..

Can we make a 9moon-ism thread or nah?

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