Jacksonville Jaguar Arik Armstead-DT Thread

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Go look at NE they retrain core players throughout their "dynasty" it's an overblown example IMHO.

These names you brought up don't backup what you're really saying either.

NE did resign Solder....NY is his third contract and was grossly overpaid.
Amendola was a FA signing so they DID pay him, dude was 33 when he went to the Lions
Flowers was an overrated players and they new he wasn't worth the contract....and apparently were right.
Jones WAS traded and a mistake.
They couldn't pay Jimmy G and Tom Brady, it's silly to even throw his name into this as an example.

Guess what they've already restructured Richburg and Kwon's contracts lol.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by theduke85:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Go look at their cap space, pre cut/restructure, etc, for 2021, 2022, 2023... they are in great shape going fwd
NE seems to have a hard line on what they will and won't pay guys, no matter who they are. They opt to just bring in cheaper replacements and let the system do the work

Hey, if they can work it out, I'm all for it. I'm just skeptical.

I suggest you balance your skepticism with reality. PM is going to find a way to keep AA. For example, a simple restructuring of Garoppolo's contract would provide more than enough to keep AA. I expect that to happen.

Originally posted by theduke85:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Go look at NE they retrain core players throughout their "dynasty" it's an overblown example IMHO.

These names you brought up don't backup what you're really saying either.

NE did resign Solder....NY is his third contract and was grossly overpaid.
Amendola was a FA signing so they DID pay him, dude was 33 when he went to the Lions
Flowers was an overrated players and they new he wasn't worth the contract....and apparently were right.
Jones WAS traded and a mistake.
They couldn't pay Jimmy G and Tom Brady, it's silly to even throw his name into this as an example.

Guess what they've already restructured Richburg and Kwon's contracts lol.

So Arik Armstead out of the blue puts up an 89.8 PFF grade in his contract year and he's a must-keep, but Trey Flowers, who put up a nearly-identical 89.7 grade in his contract year was an "overrated player and not worth the money"?

Even if you want to go through these players one-by-one and dispute them, you're missing the broader point: teams brimming with talent will inevitably lose players.

Originally posted by okdkid:
Every team will lose players. They don't lose elite playmakers. Certainly not ones at premium positions that are easily controlled for a year.

Originally posted by theduke85:

Originally posted by okdkid:
Every team will lose players. They don't lose elite playmakers. Certainly not ones at premium positions that are easily controlled for a year.

I'll be glad if I'm wrong.

Originally posted by okdkid:
Can any of you list all of the deals that Paarag has done that DID NOT have a rip cord, or were a long term albatross?

I can't think of one significant deal.

- Garoppolo
- Kaepernick
- Sherman
- Ford
- Richburg
- Alexander

...they were all easy to get out of if need be.

Originally posted by okdkid:

Can any of you list all of the deals that Paarag has done that DID NOT have a rip cord, or were a long term albatross?

I can't think of one significant deal.

- Garoppolo
- Kaepernick
- Sherman
- Ford
- Richburg
- Alexander

...they were all easy to get out of if need be.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by okdkid:
Can any of you list all of the deals that Paarag has done that DID NOT have a rip cord, or were a long term albatross?

I can't think of one significant deal.

- Garoppolo
- Kaepernick
- Sherman
- Ford
- Richburg
- Alexander

...they were all easy to get out of if need be.

Takes two to tango

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by okdkid:
Can any of you list all of the deals that Paarag has done that DID NOT have a rip cord, or were a long term albatross?

I can't think of one significant deal.

- Garoppolo
- Kaepernick
- Sherman
- Ford
- Richburg
- Alexander

...they were all easy to get out of if need be.

Takes two to tango

Sure, but several of those guys, at the time, could have easily gone somewhere else. Yet, they took the deal. Armstead wants to be here. He's from here. And the Niners can control him even if he didn't.

Pretty clear he will "tango".

Originally posted by okdkid:
I guess it comes down to...

What's the logic in letting an elite player go when you 1) already have the space to keep him for one year, and 2) there is zero long term risk to the team for keeping him.

Originally posted by okdkid:
Can any of you list all of the deals that Paarag has done that DID NOT have a rip cord, or were a long term albatross?

I can't think of one significant deal.

- Garoppolo
- Kaepernick
- Sherman
- Ford
- Richburg
- Alexander

...they were all easy to get out of if need be.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Everyone frets about a coach leaving or not doing a good job, but having a guy like Paarag is as valuable as any coach except the HC in this era of caps and free agency.

Originally posted by theduke85:

Originally posted by okdkid:
Can any of you list all of the deals that Paarag has done that DID NOT have a rip cord, or were a long term albatross?

I can't think of one significant deal.

- Garoppolo
- Kaepernick
- Sherman
- Ford
- Richburg
- Alexander

...they were all easy to get out of if need be.

NFL contracts by their very nature are like that. How many albatross contracts can you even name in the NFL? Very few, because most contracts guarantee only a fraction of their overall value. Paraag is good at his job but can we stop acting like he's magical and on his own plane of existence? The vast majority of contracts in football are shorter-term deals disguised as long, multi-year contracts. This isn't unique to the 49ers -- it's the rule, not the exception.