Jacksonville Jaguar Arik Armstead-DT Thread | Page 1100

Feb 27, 2020 at 1:31 PM

Jeepzilla
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Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Not blaming the cap or the decision makers. The cap is what it is and impacts every team and the decision makers must try and navigate the cap Prudently. Sometimes they can do it, other times it comes back to bite them in the ass. At this very moment, the cap is stopping them, but that could change. It is up to them now to see if they can make things work without screwing themselves Financially down the line. It's not about not wanting to pay someone, it's about being smart. If there was no cap you can best bet AA would be locked up and this we wouldn't be having this conversation. That's all I am saying, it's not a myth and it certainly can stop teams from doing things.

Totally fair. I disagree a bit but it's all good. I just want them all back (possible too...but Lynch said he's done restructuring so that "choice" makes it far more difficult going forward and brings the "cap" much more into play).

If we lose a guy like AA, now we have to use another resource to TRY and find his replacement that's playing at a similar level...not easy.

What would be the reasoning for Lynch and Co. to not restructure anyone going fwd? I that was the key to keeping guys & opens up flexibility for the organization?
I don't get it?
I thought restructuring Jimmy G and a couple others AB pointed out frees up like $34 million?

Feb 27, 2020 at 1:34 PM

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AkNiners
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Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
What would be the reasoning for Lynch and Co. to not restructure anyone going fwd? I that was the key to keeping guys & opens up flexibility for the organization?
I don't get it?
I thought restructuring Jimmy G and a couple others AB pointed out frees up like $34 million?

I don't think that they are saying that they'll never restructure, just that they don't want to mortgage the future just for 2020. If they restructure everyone to pay them in the future then all those bills are going to come due in 2022 or so when everyones cap number is through the roof.

Feb 27, 2020 at 2:29 PM

#16488

SisterFister
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Originally posted by AkNiners:
Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
What would be the reasoning for Lynch and Co. to not restructure anyone going fwd? I that was the key to keeping guys & opens up flexibility for the organization?
I don't get it?
I thought restructuring Jimmy G and a couple others AB pointed out frees up like $34 million?

I don't think that they are saying that they'll never restructure, just that they don't want to mortgage the future just for 2020. If they restructure everyone to pay them in the future then all those bills are going to come due in 2022 or so when everyones cap number is through the roof.

I'm old enough to remember a 49ers website called 49erscaphell.com? Or 49erssalarycaphell.com? I'm good on having to go through that again. That was a disaster.

Feb 27, 2020 at 3:48 PM

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NCommand
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Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Not blaming the cap or the decision makers. The cap is what it is and impacts every team and the decision makers must try and navigate the cap Prudently. Sometimes they can do it, other times it comes back to bite them in the ass. At this very moment, the cap is stopping them, but that could change. It is up to them now to see if they can make things work without screwing themselves Financially down the line. It's not about not wanting to pay someone, it's about being smart. If there was no cap you can best bet AA would be locked up and this we wouldn't be having this conversation. That's all I am saying, it's not a myth and it certainly can stop teams from doing things.

Totally fair. I disagree a bit but it's all good. I just want them all back (possible too...but Lynch said he's done restructuring so that "choice" makes it far more difficult going forward and brings the "cap" much more into play).

If we lose a guy like AA, now we have to use another resource to TRY and find his replacement that's playing at a similar level...not easy.

What would be the reasoning for Lynch and Co. to not restructure anyone going fwd? I that was the key to keeping guys & opens up flexibility for the organization?
I don't get it?
I thought restructuring Jimmy G and a couple others AB pointed out frees up like $34 million?

I honestly don't know. Maybe the 5-6 players they asked weren't interested. Agents recommended against? Paraag? Given it's a win-win, I just can't think of a good reason against that tactic.

Feb 27, 2020 at 4:00 PM

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To answer the restructuring question, idk why they haven't redone Jimmy or Dee's deals, 1 thing to note is restructures are automatic so no more negotiating between agent and team, teams have the ability to just redo a deal, the 49ers are choosing not to. I can't see either McKinnon or Goodwin back at their cap numbers, so both should be redo's or cuts/trades.

Feb 27, 2020 at 4:56 PM

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brodiebluebanaszak
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We cant sign anyone without a restructure. We cant tag armstead. What gives?

Feb 27, 2020 at 5:50 PM

#16492

9NERNATE
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Need to trade AA for a 2nd. Love that he stepped up this year but it had a lot to do with who was around him and being a contract year. Need to use that money elsewhere.

Feb 27, 2020 at 5:59 PM

#16493

brodiebluebanaszak
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Not just aa. Ward sanders no one. Seriously? This is our window.

Feb 27, 2020 at 7:56 PM

#16494

okdkid
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Originally posted by SisterFister:
Originally posted by AkNiners:
Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
What would be the reasoning for Lynch and Co. to not restructure anyone going fwd? I that was the key to keeping guys & opens up flexibility for the organization?
I don't get it?
I thought restructuring Jimmy G and a couple others AB pointed out frees up like $34 million?

I don't think that they are saying that they'll never restructure, just that they don't want to mortgage the future just for 2020. If they restructure everyone to pay them in the future then all those bills are going to come due in 2022 or so when everyones cap number is through the roof.

I'm old enough to remember a 49ers website called 49erscaphell.com? Or 49erssalarycaphell.com? I'm good on having to go through that again. That was a disaster.

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Feb 28, 2020 at 2:59 AM

#16495

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Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
What would be the reasoning for Lynch and Co. to not restructure anyone going fwd? I that was the key to keeping guys & opens up flexibility for the organization?
I don't get it?
I thought restructuring Jimmy G and a couple others AB pointed out frees up like $34 million?

Probally because they want this team to be contenders a lot longer than a 2 year window. Restructuring helps the Niners for 2020 and maybe 2021 but what happens after that? Niners need to not waste Bosa and Kittle's prime years and that prime is atleast 5 more years for Kittle and 8 for Bosa. I would hate for the Niners window to be only 2 years.

Feb 28, 2020 at 9:58 AM

#16496

walker807
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Originally posted by SisterFister:
Originally posted by AkNiners:
Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
What would be the reasoning for Lynch and Co. to not restructure anyone going fwd? I that was the key to keeping guys & opens up flexibility for the organization?
I don't get it?
I thought restructuring Jimmy G and a couple others AB pointed out frees up like $34 million?

I don't think that they are saying that they'll never restructure, just that they don't want to mortgage the future just for 2020. If they restructure everyone to pay them in the future then all those bills are going to come due in 2022 or so when everyones cap number is through the roof.

I'm old enough to remember a 49ers website called 49erscaphell.com? Or 49erssalarycaphell.com? I'm good on having to go through that again. That was a disaster.

I remember that site lol. I think around the time we lost TO.

Feb 28, 2020 at 2:44 PM

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NCommand
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I think Armstead is a good player. Probably a little underrated. But at the amount he'd likely command, the 49ers are probably better off letting him go

It would allow them to spend $$ on more important players (Sanders, Ward) and they would also get a 3rd or 4th round comp pick https://t.co/v8uWUQHqbj
— Oscar Aparicio (@BetterRivals) February 28, 2020

Feb 28, 2020 at 2:53 PM

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SFrush
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Originally posted by NCommand:

I think Armstead is a good player. Probably a little underrated. But at the amount he'd likely command, the 49ers are probably better off letting him go

It would allow them to spend $$ on more important players (Sanders, Ward) and they would also get a 3rd or 4th round comp pick https://t.co/v8uWUQHqbj
— Oscar Aparicio (@BetterRivals) February 28, 2020

It's not like Sanders and Ward are going to be cheap to retain.

Feb 28, 2020 at 3:41 PM

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FredFlintstone
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Originally posted by SFrush:
Originally posted by NCommand:
I think Armstead is a good player. Probably a little underrated. But at the amount he'd likely command, the 49ers are probably better off letting him go

It would allow them to spend $$ on more important players (Sanders, Ward) and they would also get a 3rd or 4th round comp pick https://t.co/v8uWUQHqbj
— Oscar Aparicio (@BetterRivals) February 28, 2020

It's not like Sanders and Ward are going to be cheap to retain.

I can soooo let ward walk and I wouldn't care, it's AA and Sanders I don't want leaving

Feb 28, 2020 at 4:55 PM

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pdizo916
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Trade AA, and let ward and sanders walk.