Jacksonville Jaguar Arik Armstead-DT Thread

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Alternatively , DJJOnes comes back and plays 3t, and Arik moves to the outside. Unfortunately, as we saw in the SB, we need good substitutes also, or you see our great DL get blown. By 2nd half, not only was Dee out but we had another guy out all the time also, altho i think that was rotating between buck, nick and arik. So we have to ahve yet another DL to spell our front line guys. This is not an easy fix.

Blair, if he can come back 100%.

I don't think Blair is going to be ready come TC. He's only a few months removed from that ACL tear.

Originally posted by RTFirefly:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Alternatively , DJJOnes comes back and plays 3t, and Arik moves to the outside. Unfortunately, as we saw in the SB, we need good substitutes also, or you see our great DL get blown. By 2nd half, not only was Dee out but we had another guy out all the time also, altho i think that was rotating between buck, nick and arik. So we have to ahve yet another DL to spell our front line guys. This is not an easy fix.

Blair, if he can come back 100%.

Blair is another one of those IR regulars. I like him, but they need to bring someone in.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Blair is another one of those IR regulars. I like him, but they need to bring someone in.

When was he out before last year?

Originally posted by mayo49:

I don't think Blair is going to be ready come TC. He's only a few months removed from that ACL tear.

Yep. 90% in October?

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Alternatively , DJJOnes comes back and plays 3t, and Arik moves to the outside. Unfortunately, as we saw in the SB, we need good substitutes also, or you see our great DL get blown. By 2nd half, not only was Dee out but we had another guy out all the time also, altho i think that was rotating between buck, nick and arik. So we have to ahve yet another DL to spell our front line guys. This is not an easy fix.

We need depth. So jones taylor plus one other rotational guy like blair/day PLUS our ford substitute is what we need.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by RTFirefly:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Alternatively , DJJOnes comes back and plays 3t, and Arik moves to the outside. Unfortunately, as we saw in the SB, we need good substitutes also, or you see our great DL get blown. By 2nd half, not only was Dee out but we had another guy out all the time also, altho i think that was rotating between buck, nick and arik. So we have to ahve yet another DL to spell our front line guys. This is not an easy fix.

Blair, if he can come back 100%.

Blair is another one of those IR regulars. I like him, but they need to bring someone in.

I like Blair, but we need depth and he fits in well there. That still means we need a healthy Dee, and if F.O decides he is not dependable (knees and hammy) then we need a starter who can come in when he can't go. That sure is a messy way to do it tho. OTOH, if cut he costs us 4.5 mil towards the cap. I suspect we keep him around this yr, and pray he can go at least 500-600 snaps. But that is double snaps from last season, sooooo....not real sure what they do. But counting on Dee to play most of the time, let alone half time...is not a good bet. To me getting another starting DT is the answer and move Arik outside. There's a lot more DTs out there than DEs, and frankly we can't afford a DE in FA. Cap is too tight.

But just saying Dee will be okay for the yr, is one huge azz risk. This also makes the case for re-signing Arik , and his ability to play inside or outside makes him well worth the $16-18 mil /yr. Bringing in a top flite DT sure seems like the move...at least from here in the cheap seats.

This also brings up the point about signing guys who are healthy....really, really healthy this yr. Prior yrs, i had no problem with it as 3 yrs ago we needed 45 players. Now we got pretty close to what we want talentwise, but where we have problems is where we have guys with injury hx. I hope that is part of the plan for acquisitions this yr...just getting healthy guys and not taking risks on guys with injury hx.

Blair needs to be re signed before you guys assume he will be on the roster come 2020

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by Reality:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by BriRichardson:

10 sacks on a contract year and 9 the previous 4 combined.....no teams will be rushing out to sign Armstead.

who the hell are you??

Barney?

Check out the Clowney thread in nfl talk, he thinks Clowney is a top 3 DL in the league and would take him over anyone on our DL. Seahawks fan most likely or a PBM.

That's a hell of an accusation

Originally posted by BriRichardson:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by Reality:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by BriRichardson:

10 sacks on a contract year and 9 the previous 4 combined.....no teams will be rushing out to sign Armstead.

who the hell are you??

Barney?

Check out the Clowney thread in nfl talk, he thinks Clowney is a top 3 DL in the league and would take him over anyone on our DL. Seahawks fan most likely or a PBM.

That's a hell of an accusation

"Sacks are a very small stat considering the double team he demands on every down. Add to that the disruption he brings
against the run and he's top 3 in the league. I'd easily take him over any guy on our stacked D line in a heartbeat"

https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl/192769-jadeveon-clowney/page26/

Lol...

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by BriRichardson:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by Reality:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by BriRichardson:

10 sacks on a contract year and 9 the previous 4 combined.....no teams will be rushing out to sign Armstead.

who the hell are you??

Barney?

Check out the Clowney thread in nfl talk, he thinks Clowney is a top 3 DL in the league and would take him over anyone on our DL. Seahawks fan most likely or a PBM.

That's a hell of an accusation

"Sacks are a very small stat considering the double team he demands on every down. Add to that the disruption he brings
against the run and he's top 3 in the league. I'd easily take him over any guy on our stacked D line in a heartbeat"

https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl/192769-jadeveon-clowney/page26/

Lol...

Imagine preferring to have Clowney over Bosa? Lulz.

Originally posted by evil:
Imagine preferring to have Clowney over Bosa? Lulz.

There's an adjective to describe these people that starts with R.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by evil:
Imagine preferring to have Clowney over Bosa? Lulz.

There's an adjective to describe these people that starts with R.

Reahawked?

Solid article on AA - tag and trade,

https://www.ninersnation.com/2020/3/6/21166984/why-tagging-and-trading-arik-armstead-makes-sense-for-the-49ers

Thoughts??

as I understand it, if you tag him and nobody wants to trade, you're stuck with that bill