Jacksonville Jaguar Arik Armstead-DT Thread

Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:
PFF nonsense is also the reason many of us were all hyped on thinking Rashads robinson was the future. They kept putting out a bunch of bs stats hyping him up. Tricked the fan base into thinking we had a cb1 for our future.

The year before that, they had Lynch and Armstead as top 10 pass rushers. But our defense sucked. Insane.

most of the people who cling to the pff thing are two groups. one trying to promote aa. one trying to promote thomas. oh and a third one. trying to protect acorn head.. most sane posters and objective fans have seen all they care to see of those three,. no offense to pff

Originally posted by cciowa:

most of the people who cling to the pff thing are two groups. one trying to promote aa. one trying to promote thomas. oh and a third one. trying to protect acorn head.. most sane posters and objective fans have seen all they care to see of those three,. no offense to pff

Lol cc what are you talking about? How do people use pff to promote Thomas?? Nonsense comment

AA, best player on the defense according to PFF. It's a done deal folks. Extension coming soon from Lynch

oh good another article that only references PFF

We really need to get Arik Armstead blocked.


-no opposing coach ever

Better football player than Solomon Thomas. He's been playing really well here recently.

Originally posted by cciowa:

how many players are we still calling for patience on after five years? good god people

True. I hate to say it but I agree. Some layers just aren't good or never healthy which means they are worth a dam to any team.
Ward Mitchell and marsh have to go. Garnett isn't a system fit so him too. AA can stay but only at a deal maybe 6-7 mil a year for a few years. Not 9 mil option. He isn't worth that although he's improving. We have players like day and even street that may be just as good or better.

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by cciowa:

how many players are we still calling for patience on after five years? good god people

True. I hate to say it but I agree. Some layers just aren't good or never healthy which means they are worth a dam to any team.
Ward Mitchell and marsh have to go. Garnett isn't a system fit so him too. AA can stay but only at a deal maybe 6-7 mil a year for a few years. Not 9 mil option. He isn't worth that although he's improving. We have players like day and even street that may be just as good or better.

I want to see Street play before I commit. He is an interesting selection. With at least one quality edge next spring (oh please!) things could get very interesting.

Julian Taylor has flashed more than AA in the few snaps he gets here and there. Why the fk is this guy even suiting up anymore?

Originally posted by ChazBoner:

Julian Taylor has flashed more than AA in the few snaps he gets here and there. Why the fk is this guy even suiting up anymore?

Because that was during the preseason and armstead is actually having a good year?!?

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Better football player than Solomon Thomas. He's been playing really well here recently.

Agreed

Originally posted by dald1:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:

Julian Taylor has flashed more than AA in the few snaps he gets here and there. Why the fk is this guy even suiting up anymore?

Because that was during the preseason and armstead is actually having a good year?!?

Yeah I was ready to give up on AA early this year but my mind has completely changed after the way he's played since about week 4. He doesn't quite have the finishing speed to sack from the edge, but remember Red Bryant was the same way for Seattle. He's basically a tackle playing end, so to be fair, it's unreasonable to expect him to be like Michael Bennett.

Originally posted by dald1:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Better football player than Solomon Thomas. He's been playing really well here recently.

Agreed

Only taken 4 seasons to see him as a good run defender...awesome

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by dald1:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Better football player than Solomon Thomas. He's been playing really well here recently.

Agreed

Only taken 4 seasons to see him as a good run defender...awesome

Seriously. Armstead is playing well in his 4th season. Do people want to go back to this thread at this point in his career as Thomas is in currently?

I get it...it sucks that Thomas isn't showing up after we invested a 3rd overall pick in him. But what was Armstead showing in his 2nd season? He wasn't dealing with the tragedy that Solomon is dealing with this year. Not everyone can brush off stuff like that and play at a high level.

They're giving Thomas snaps inside finally and he's starting to show some better play. I don't think it's a coincidence. Unless we fail in epic fashion this offseason we should be able to add edge rusher talent which should allow Thomas to go inside full time or majority of the time.

Let him go into the offseason with that in mind so he can work accordingly in the offseason.

As far as Armstead he's playing well, if we don't think shaving off his salary helps enough I have no problem bringing him back and letting him compete at big end in run downs.

Originally posted by genus49:

Seriously. Armstead is playing well in his 4th season. Do people want to go back to this thread at this point in his career as Thomas is in currently?

I get it...it sucks that Thomas isn't showing up after we invested a 3rd overall pick in him. But what was Armstead showing in his 2nd season? He wasn't dealing with the tragedy that Solomon is dealing with this year. Not everyone can brush off stuff like that and play at a high level.

They're giving Thomas snaps inside finally and he's starting to show some better play. I don't think it's a coincidence. Unless we fail in epic fashion this offseason we should be able to add edge rusher talent which should allow Thomas to go inside full time or majority of the time.

Let him go into the offseason with that in mind so he can work accordingly in the offseason.

As far as Armstead he's playing well, if we don't think shaving off his salary helps enough I have no problem bringing him back and letting him compete at big end in run downs.

All of this, honestly $9 million for what AA does well isn't close to worth it. If you could tell me they would use that cash go upgrade elsewhere then I'd pack his bags