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Dec 16, 2018 at 1:12 AM
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Originally posted by Bobdawg78:
I wonder if Armstead would have any value in a trade this off season? Could we get a 5th round pick for him, or would it be 6th, 7th, or nothing? I like Armstead as a depth guy, but we have Street coming back making nothing, plus we have Blair+Day as depth guys as well. Personally I would want Armstead gone, if it was either him gone, or us paying him 9 million. That 9 million could be used on an actual difference maker like a Earl Thomas. Earl Thomas would give us that elite FS we need, with Tartt as the thumper at SS, our secondary would be looking pretty good, especially if we land Boas as our LEO to give us a pass rush.
Blair and Day don't play the same position as Armstead. Signing earl thomas sounds nice as long as you ignore that he's broken his leg in back to back years. Also the niners are not getting bosa, the Rams game is a guaranteed win.
[ Edited by FaTaL on Dec 16, 2018 at 1:12 AM ]
Dec 16, 2018 at 6:55 AM
Originally posted by FaTaL:
Blair and Day don't play the same position as Armstead. Signing earl thomas sounds nice as long as you ignore that he's broken his leg in back to back years. Also the niners are not getting bosa, the Rams game is a guaranteed win.

Well that's a silly comment. You have no idea if they will be resting their starters for one. And considering we're playing plenty of backups on a much less talented team there's no telling we'd win even if they did play their backups.
Dec 16, 2018 at 11:00 AM
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Originally posted by Bobdawg78:
I wonder if Armstead would have any value in a trade this off season? Could we get a 5th round pick for him, or would it be 6th, 7th, or nothing? I like Armstead as a depth guy, but we have Street coming back making nothing, plus we have Blair+Day as depth guys as well. Personally I would want Armstead gone, if it was either him gone, or us paying him 9 million. That 9 million could be used on an actual difference maker like a Earl Thomas. Earl Thomas would give us that elite FS we need, with Tartt as the thumper at SS, our secondary would be looking pretty good, especially if we land Boas as our LEO to give us a pass rush.
The $9 million makes him untradeable.
Dec 16, 2018 at 12:44 PM
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Bobdawg78:
I wonder if Armstead would have any value in a trade this off season? Could we get a 5th round pick for him, or would it be 6th, 7th, or nothing? I like Armstead as a depth guy, but we have Street coming back making nothing, plus we have Blair+Day as depth guys as well. Personally I would want Armstead gone, if it was either him gone, or us paying him 9 million. That 9 million could be used on an actual difference maker like a Earl Thomas. Earl Thomas would give us that elite FS we need, with Tartt as the thumper at SS, our secondary would be looking pretty good, especially if we land Boas as our LEO to give us a pass rush.
The $9 million makes him untradeable.

That makes that $9 mil even uglier than it looked like.
Dec 16, 2018 at 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Bobdawg78:
I wonder if Armstead would have any value in a trade this off season? Could we get a 5th round pick for him, or would it be 6th, 7th, or nothing? I like Armstead as a depth guy, but we have Street coming back making nothing, plus we have Blair+Day as depth guys as well. Personally I would want Armstead gone, if it was either him gone, or us paying him 9 million. That 9 million could be used on an actual difference maker like a Earl Thomas. Earl Thomas would give us that elite FS we need, with Tartt as the thumper at SS, our secondary would be looking pretty good, especially if we land Boas as our LEO to give us a pass rush.
The $9 million makes him untradeable.

That makes that $9 mil even uglier than it looked like.

best case scenario is he gets cut before the deadline, but i don't see that happening with this staff.
Dec 17, 2018 at 1:54 AM
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Can't wait to see PFF grade him higher than Buckner this week....
Dec 17, 2018 at 7:33 AM
[ Edited by jgarf08 on Dec 17, 2018 at 11:11 AM ]
Dec 17, 2018 at 7:34 AM
Originally posted by jcs:
Can't wait to see PFF grade him higher than Buckner this week....

He is getting extended. Best player on the defense according to the PFF Gods
[ Edited by Ensatsu on Dec 17, 2018 at 7:35 AM ]
Dec 17, 2018 at 1:41 PM
He will be back - Book It!
Dec 17, 2018 at 9:33 PM
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Originally posted by jcs:
Can't wait to see PFF grade him higher than Buckner this week....

He is getting extended. Best player on the defense according to the PFF Gods

Ive yet to have someone answer my question. What player grading service is better than PFF? Id love to know who does it better.
Dec 17, 2018 at 9:39 PM
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Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Originally posted by jcs:
Can't wait to see PFF grade him higher than Buckner this week....

He is getting extended. Best player on the defense according to the PFF Gods

Ive yet to have someone answer my question. What player grading service is better than PFF? Id love to know who does it better.
You mean who else is as good as PFF at faking grades?

How can anyone take them seriously when they continuously change their methods and the ones they have are more often then not based on opinion and even then it's pretty bad.
Dec 17, 2018 at 11:20 PM
From what I've read, the NIners will probably try to restructure his contract so he isn't making that $9 million but will probably average $6-7 mil over multiple years. If they can make that happen, I'm cool with it. AA is getting better and although he may never make a Pro Bowl, he is a solid player and for this team, which is still trying to acquire talent, it is good to keep those guys. Right now, he is probably playing like a mid third round pick. Hopefully, next year he will be even better.

Cheers!
Dec 18, 2018 at 12:22 AM
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Originally posted by jcs:
Can't wait to see PFF grade him higher than Buckner this week....

He is getting extended. Best player on the defense according to the PFF Gods

Ive yet to have someone answer my question. What player grading service is better than PFF? Id love to know who does it better.
Services? Are there even any others?
Dec 18, 2018 at 1:13 AM
Originally posted by RonMexico:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Originally posted by jcs:
Can't wait to see PFF grade him higher than Buckner this week....

He is getting extended. Best player on the defense according to the PFF Gods

Ive yet to have someone answer my question. What player grading service is better than PFF? Id love to know who does it better.
Services? Are there even any others?

Exactly. People love to discredit them, but having nothing better to compare it to.

Almost every NFL team subscribes to their service, so obviously they think it's pretty accurate.
Dec 18, 2018 at 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by RonMexico:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Originally posted by jcs:
Can't wait to see PFF grade him higher than Buckner this week....

He is getting extended. Best player on the defense according to the PFF Gods

Ive yet to have someone answer my question. What player grading service is better than PFF? Id love to know who does it better.
Services? Are there even any others?

Exactly. People love to discredit them, but having nothing better to compare it to.

Almost every NFL team subscribes to their service, so obviously they think it's pretty accurate.
I wonder how many of those NFL subscriptions are because Chris Collinsworth got down on his knees and begged??
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