Jacksonville Jaguar Arik Armstead-DT Thread

AA is solid but he needs a pay cut.

Anybody gotta clip of that play when he tackled the guy who didn't have the ball. ?

Originally posted by susweel:
Anybody gotta clip of that play when he tackled the guy who didn't have the ball. ?

I want the clip of him spinning in a circle and tackling himself when he was 1 on 1 vs Wilson Sunday.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by susweel:

Anybody gotta clip of that play when he tackled the guy who didn't have the ball. ?

I want the clip of him spinning in a circle and tackling himself when he was 1 on 1 vs Wilson Sunday.

He's probably the least aware football player i ever seen. He falls for the fake every time.

Originally posted by Joecool:
AA is solid but he needs a pay cut.

Agree, but they won't be hurting for cap room next year, so you pay him the $9M and see if he's worth a contract extension afterward, but you don't break the bank for him for the next year.

Glad to see him string some solid play together. Compare this to Ward.

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Joecool:
AA is solid but he needs a pay cut.

Agree, but they won't be hurting for cap room next year, so you pay him the $9M and see if he's worth a contract extension afterward, but you don't break the bank for him for the next year.

Glad to see him string some solid play together. Compare this to Ward.

That $9 million can buy you a good starting OG or Safety.

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by RonMexico:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Originally posted by jcs:
Can't wait to see PFF grade him higher than Buckner this week....

He is getting extended. Best player on the defense according to the PFF Gods

Ive yet to have someone answer my question. What player grading service is better than PFF? Id love to know who does it better.

Services? Are there even any others?

Exactly. People love to discredit them, but having nothing better to compare it to.

Almost every NFL team subscribes to their service, so obviously they think it's pretty accurate.

So do many pro football writers.

I have followed them for three years now (I don't buy the Elite package). I watch the movement of players up and down in their ratings. I find they give a pretty good idea of how a player is doing in different aspects of their position. At worst, the fact they grade all players in the same position in the same way, it gives you a good relative ranking of the players.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Joecool:
AA is solid but he needs a pay cut.

Agree, but they won't be hurting for cap room next year, so you pay him the $9M and see if he's worth a contract extension afterward, but you don't break the bank for him for the next year.

Glad to see him string some solid play together. Compare this to Ward.

That $9 million can buy you a good starting OG or Safety.

His contract is in line with what other DL in his position are getting relative to their play.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Joecool:
AA is solid but he needs a pay cut.

Agree, but they won't be hurting for cap room next year, so you pay him the $9M and see if he's worth a contract extension afterward, but you don't break the bank for him for the next year.

Glad to see him string some solid play together. Compare this to Ward.

That $9 million can buy you a good starting OG or Safety.

His contract is in line with what other DL in his position are getting relative to their play.

Except this team is already loaded with at least 5 other big ends. He's not a NT, full time DT or Edge rusher. In context he will also be the highest paid DLineman on this team next year for a rotational player. Cutting him costs us nothing in terms of cap hit and gives us a chance to renegotiate at a much lower number.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Joecool:
AA is solid but he needs a pay cut.

Agree, but they won't be hurting for cap room next year, so you pay him the $9M and see if he's worth a contract extension afterward, but you don't break the bank for him for the next year.

Glad to see him string some solid play together. Compare this to Ward.

That $9 million can buy you a good starting OG or Safety.

His contract is in line with what other DL in his position are getting relative to their play.

Except this team is already loaded with at least 5 other big ends. He's not a NT, full time DT or Edge rusher. In context he will also be the highest paid DLineman on this team next year for a rotational player. Cutting him costs us nothing in terms of cap hit and gives us a chance to renegotiate at a much lower number.

I expect him to resign for a slightly lower number - something in the $6-7M range.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by RonMexico:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Originally posted by jcs:
Can't wait to see PFF grade him higher than Buckner this week....

He is getting extended. Best player on the defense according to the PFF Gods

Ive yet to have someone answer my question. What player grading service is better than PFF? Id love to know who does it better.

Services? Are there even any others?

Exactly. People love to discredit them, but having nothing better to compare it to.

Almost every NFL team subscribes to their service, so obviously they think it's pretty accurate.

So do many pro football writers.

I have followed them for three years now (I don't buy the Elite package). I watch the movement of players up and down in their ratings. I find they give a pretty good idea of how a player is doing in different aspects of their position. At worst, the fact they grade all players in the same position in the same way, it gives you a good relative ranking of the players.

Personally I don't think NFL teams subscribe to PFF for their player rating scores. They have their own pro personnel scouts to watch football and scout players the way the team wants them to. I think NFL teams use them for their objective stats. How often does a QB throw to his left on 3rd & 10+? How often does a team blitz on 2nd down? Those are concrete objective stats that a monkey can tally. Which frees up the team's resources for other stuff.

I've seen PFF ads on my twitter feed asking "Do you want to come work for PFF?". Why are they asking Joe Schmo to come work for them? I know a little about football, but if they ever hired me that would make them lose credibility.

The NFL plays an unbalanced schedule. If Mike McG scores a 70 against Von Miller, that to me is better than him scoring a 90 against Eli Harold. PFF still cannot capture that, and that's the biggest problem I have with their player scores. There is no aspect of 'quality of competition'.

"Well what else is better?" That's not a strong argument. If I gave you a turd sandwich and that was all you had to eat, should you complain, or should you eat the sandwich because it's better than nothing since you don't want to starve? PFF is that turd sandwich. The buns are the concrete stats, the turd patty is the player rating scores. Throw away the patty and eat the buns.

PFF grades thl as an elite webzone poster.

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by susweel:
Anybody gotta clip of that play when he tackled the guy who didn't have the ball. ?

I want the clip of him spinning in a circle and tackling himself when he was 1 on 1 vs Wilson Sunday.

He's probably the least aware football player i ever seen. He falls for the fake every time.

Colbert?

Originally posted by thl408:

Personally I don't think NFL teams subscribe to PFF for their player rating scores. They have their own pro personnel scouts to watch football and scout players the way the team wants them to. I think NFL teams use them for their objective stats. How often does a QB throw to his left on 3rd & 10+? How often does a team blitz on 2nd down? Those are concrete objective stats that a monkey can tally. Which frees up the team's resources for other stuff.

I've seen PFF ads on my twitter feed asking "Do you want to come work for PFF?". Why are they asking Joe Schmo to come work for them? I know a little about football, but if they ever hired me that would make them lose credibility.

The NFL plays an unbalanced schedule. If Mike McG scores a 70 against Von Miller, that to me is better than him scoring a 90 against Eli Harold. PFF still cannot capture that, and that's the biggest problem I have with their player scores. There is no aspect of 'quality of competition'.

"Well what else is better?" That's not a strong argument. If I gave you a turd sandwich and that was all you had to eat, should you complain, or should you eat the sandwich because it's better than nothing since you don't want to starve? PFF is that turd sandwich. The buns are the concrete stats, the turd patty is the player rating scores. Throw away the patty and eat the buns.

LMAO...outstanding SouthPark reference.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by thl408:

Personally I don't think NFL teams subscribe to PFF for their player rating scores. They have their own pro personnel scouts to watch football and scout players the way the team wants them to. I think NFL teams use them for their objective stats. How often does a QB throw to his left on 3rd & 10+? How often does a team blitz on 2nd down? Those are concrete objective stats that a monkey can tally. Which frees up the team's resources for other stuff.

I've seen PFF ads on my twitter feed asking "Do you want to come work for PFF?". Why are they asking Joe Schmo to come work for them? I know a little about football, but if they ever hired me that would make them lose credibility.

The NFL plays an unbalanced schedule. If Mike McG scores a 70 against Von Miller, that to me is better than him scoring a 90 against Eli Harold. PFF still cannot capture that, and that's the biggest problem I have with their player scores. There is no aspect of 'quality of competition'.

"Well what else is better?" That's not a strong argument. If I gave you a turd sandwich and that was all you had to eat, should you complain, or should you eat the sandwich because it's better than nothing since you don't want to starve? PFF is that turd sandwich. The buns are the concrete stats, the turd patty is the player rating scores. Throw away the patty and eat the buns.

LMAO...outstanding SouthPark reference.

I'd give Earl Mitchell a rating of about tree fitty