Jacksonville Jaguar Arik Armstead-DT Thread

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Agree. Time to move on from Armstead. Use his money to go get DeMarcus Lawrence & Earl Thomas.

too late. He's already put his plan into motion. He'll milk this injury until the 9ers are forced to pay him the $9m. Lynch was bamboozled.

We all saw this coming. They didn't learn from Ward. This FO hasn't learned a thing.

claims he was injured during the bears game, but his name didn't even pop up on the injury report against the rams. The fix is in. Had they not picked up his option, dude would've been claiming to be healthier than ever.

Originally posted by ChazBoner:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:

Agree. Time to move on from Armstead. Use his money to go get DeMarcus Lawrence & Earl Thomas.

too late. He's already put his plan into motion. He'll milk this injury until the 9ers are forced to pay him the $9m. Lynch was bamboozled.

We all saw this coming. They didn't learn from Ward. This FO hasn't learned a thing.

claims he was injured during the bears game, but his name didn't even pop up on the injury report against the rams. The fix is in. Had they not picked up his option, dude would've been claiming to be healthier than ever.

I doubt Armstead cares either way. Free Agency looks real nice for him considering the most comparable signing this past free agency, star lotulelei, got 5 years 50 million and the cap went up a big chunk again.

Originally posted by walker807:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:

Agree. Time to move on from Armstead. Use his money to go get DeMarcus Lawrence & Earl Thomas.

too late. He's already put his plan into motion. He'll milk this injury until the 9ers are forced to pay him the $9m. Lynch was bamboozled.

We all saw this coming. They didn't learn from Ward. This FO hasn't learned a thing.

claims he was injured during the bears game, but his name didn't even pop up on the injury report against the rams. The fix is in. Had they not picked up his option, dude would've been claiming to be healthier than ever.

I doubt Armstead cares either way. Free Agency looks real nice for him considering the most comparable signing this past free agency, star lotulelei, got 5 years 50 million and the cap went up a big chunk again.

And hopefully some other team gives him that type of contract, not the niners, that is way to much for him IMO

Originally posted by jersey49er:

Originally posted by walker807:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:

Agree. Time to move on from Armstead. Use his money to go get DeMarcus Lawrence & Earl Thomas.

too late. He's already put his plan into motion. He'll milk this injury until the 9ers are forced to pay him the $9m. Lynch was bamboozled.

We all saw this coming. They didn't learn from Ward. This FO hasn't learned a thing.

claims he was injured during the bears game, but his name didn't even pop up on the injury report against the rams. The fix is in. Had they not picked up his option, dude would've been claiming to be healthier than ever.

I doubt Armstead cares either way. Free Agency looks real nice for him considering the most comparable signing this past free agency, star lotulelei, got 5 years 50 million and the cap went up a big chunk again.

And hopefully some other team gives him that type of contract, not the niners, that is way to much for him IMO

I highly doubt he gets extended here. I want to see what Street can do at the big end next year plus we may see Taylor take the next step. Blair is under contract for one more year too.

if anyone on the DL should be extended, besides Buckner, it should be Blair. Only other guy that stood out this season.

Originally posted by ChazBoner:

claims he was injured during the bears game, but his name didn't even pop up on the injury report against the rams. The fix is in. Had they not picked up his option, dude would've been claiming to be healthier than ever.

Actually it did :

Full participation
DE Arik Armstead (hand)
C Weston Richburg (knee)
T Joe Staley (not injury related

I just need to understand ... if you gave 9 million guaranteed to someone and he broke / inured his hand game #16... and your season is lost .. why play with fire and play him instead of letting him rest and have him do his surgery if needed soon so he can be healthy for next year or cut him allowing him one extra week to recover ??
Is it to say well he played a full season and trade him to another team? Or just Kyle wanting to screw us to not get top draft pick?

Originally posted by eman:
I just need to understand ... if you gave 9 million guaranteed to someone and he broke / inured his hand game #16... and your season is lost .. why play with fire and play him instead of letting him rest and have him do his surgery if needed soon so he can be healthy for next year or cut him allowing him one extra week to recover ??
Is it to say well he played a full season and trade him to another team? Or just Kyle wanting to screw us to not get top draft pick?

Kyle is clearly trying to screw this team over... its been obvious from the get go. We've had two chances to get the top pick and he keeps winning games at the last second so we're stuck in perpetual mediocrity at best.

Originally posted by ChazBoner:

if anyone on the DL should be extended, besides Buckner, it should be Blair. Only other guy that stood out this season.

Agreed

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:

Agree. Time to move on from Armstead. Use his money to go get DeMarcus Lawrence & Earl Thomas.

Lawrence will never reach the market.

We have plenty of money to sign Thomas if he wants to join Uncle Sherm in sticking it to the Seahawks for hanging him out to dry with a tag.

There is no financial reason for moving Armstead. If we did we would just have to replace him with someone else. We need him for depth if nothing else.

Some players never get better because they are injury prone. Some players never get better because they don't care to be great. Armstead seems to be both. The team shouldn't make the same mistake they did with Jimmy Ward. Time for Thomas & Blair to get more reps and step up.

Wasn't Lawrence franchise tagged this past year?

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

I've said I hope Blair gets a shot at starting. Totally agree that he may be a 7-9 sack guy.

Said team can easily work out an extension. I could get care less what the pick is. They do pretty good with their 5th-7th round picks anyway. Move him off the team please.

Blair had a shot a winning a starting job in TC but couldn't do it.

AA will stay until someone beats him out or Lynch gets a solid offer in trade. It will be more value than just a single 5th. I could see him part of a deal to move up in the draft. Until then he has value as a rotational guy.

With teams like Seattle and Baltimore bucking the passing game trend and going to the run game, guys like Armstead will have value in stopping the run.

During the Baltimore/Cleveland game, Tony Romo was watching the Ravens dominate the Browns 4 man front. Romo predicted a smart DC would start using 5 DL to stop the run and forcing the QB to beat them in the passing game. While that might not work against Rodgers or Brees, it would have been very good against teams with strong running games covering for a lesser QB. In such a case, Armstead would be a good piece in the strategy.

I heard him say that and I think that was in response to Baltimore just running the ball down their throats and using a college style offense. Greg Williams was playing cover-2 at times when everyone knew Lamar, Gus or Dixon was getting the ball everytime.

Romo said he'd try to take away the run and force Lamar/Baltimore to beat them through the air. He was 100% right because the Ravens have just been running at will on teams. You have to take away the run if you have a chance at winning. That's easier said then done though. Leaving two safeties back deep doesn't help that cause.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Agree. Time to move on from Armstead. Use his money to go get DeMarcus Lawrence & Earl Thomas.

Lawrence will never reach the market.

We have plenty of money to sign Thomas if he wants to join Uncle Sherm in sticking it to the Seahawks for hanging him out to dry with a tag.

There is no financial reason for moving Armstead. If we did we would just have to replace him with someone else. We need him for depth if nothing else.

Good post dj!

If Cards take Bosa - we could take Qwill and trade AA - there are guys like Blair that can step in too

Resign and trade. Anyone know his value, PFF seems to think highly of him.

Can do younger, cheaper, more durable for the same amount of output talent.

Let him go

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Can do younger, cheaper, more durable for the same amount of output talent.

Let him go

+1