Jacksonville Jaguar Arik Armstead-DT Thread

Originally posted by dj43:

I keep looking at the lists of FA that can rush the passer and I see Ansah at $17M APY, maybe Brandon Graham who will get $12+M if he gets to the market (I doubt it), and a couple of other guys who all have question marks around them.

Zone favorites like Frank Clark and Trey Flowers won't get to market. Fowler might. Clay Matthews is an expensive zero at his age.

In this passing league, EVERYONE wants a pass rusher and the teams that have good ones will not let them get to market.

Best case scenario for the 49ers is Bosa/Allen and a lower pick to develop. Maybe Armstead in a trade to move into the 2nd round for a pick if the right guy is there.

Very interesting...hadn't thot of Armstead in a trade to move into 2nd round if "right guy is there". Appreciate your list, but as you say , Clay Matthews is a no no. And certainly NO on flowers. No way he even sniffs FA.

So you could see Allen if Bosa is gone? That is, post combine, personal workouts, etc?

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by dj43:
I keep looking at the lists of FA that can rush the passer and I see Ansah at $17M APY, maybe Brandon Graham who will get $12+M if he gets to the market (I doubt it), and a couple of other guys who all have question marks around them.

Zone favorites like Frank Clark and Trey Flowers won't get to market. Fowler might. Clay Matthews is an expensive zero at his age.

In this passing league, EVERYONE wants a pass rusher and the teams that have good ones will not let them get to market.

Best case scenario for the 49ers is Bosa/Allen and a lower pick to develop. Maybe Armstead in a trade to move into the 2nd round for a pick if the right guy is there.

Very interesting...hadn't thot of Armstead in a trade to move into 2nd round if "right guy is there". Appreciate your list, but as you say , Clay Matthews is a no no. And certainly NO on flowers. No way he even sniffs FA.

So you could see Allen if Bosa is gone? That is, post combine, personal workouts, etc?

I'm good with Allen. I can't see him bombing in later workouts.

As to Armstead; from reports Kocurek is reviewing the current DL guys, ostensibly to recommend who to keep and who to move. Due to lack of film, Thomas has too little value to trade and I can't see him being released. That leaves Armstead who plays a similar position as a guy who does have value and could be traded.

I would not be surprised if they stand pat with all these DL guys and see what Kocurek can do with them.

Why shouldn't we stand pat with the guys we already have? the d-line is the only solid part of the defense.

Originally posted by communist:
Why shouldn't we stand pat with the guys we already have? the d-line is the only solid part of the defense.

Agree on DL is best part of our D.

It'll be either Bosa or Allen and IMO our DLine will take a big leap forward.

That's a $9M dollar ring right there.

Originally posted by NCommand:
That's a $9M dollar ring right there.

Shoutout to @arikarmstead on his engagement! pic.twitter.com/T4eAmIwiRv

— Evan Sowards (@EvanSowards) February 20, 2019

i am shocked that ping pong balls are not falling on top of them

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by NCommand:
That's a $9M dollar ring right there.

Shoutout to @arikarmstead on his engagement! pic.twitter.com/T4eAmIwiRv

— Evan Sowards (@EvanSowards) February 20, 2019

Yeah, he must work out.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by dj43:
I keep looking at the lists of FA that can rush the passer and I see Ansah at $17M APY, maybe Brandon Graham who will get $12+M if he gets to the market (I doubt it), and a couple of other guys who all have question marks around them.

Zone favorites like Frank Clark and Trey Flowers won't get to market. Fowler might. Clay Matthews is an expensive zero at his age.

In this passing league, EVERYONE wants a pass rusher and the teams that have good ones will not let them get to market.

Best case scenario for the 49ers is Bosa/Allen and a lower pick to develop. Maybe Armstead in a trade to move into the 2nd round for a pick if the right guy is there.

Very interesting...hadn't thot of Armstead in a trade to move into 2nd round if "right guy is there". Appreciate your list, but as you say , Clay Matthews is a no no. And certainly NO on flowers. No way he even sniffs FA.

So you could see Allen if Bosa is gone? That is, post combine, personal workouts, etc?

I'm good with Allen. I can't see him bombing in later workouts.

As to Armstead; from reports Kocurek is reviewing the current DL guys, ostensibly to recommend who to keep and who to move. Due to lack of film, Thomas has too little value to trade and I can't see him being released. That leaves Armstead who plays a similar position as a guy who does have value and could be traded.

I would not be surprised if they stand pat with all these DL guys and see what Kocurek can do with them.

Agree

On Allen and staying pat

Originally posted by communist:

Why shouldn't we stand pat with the guys we already have? the d-line is the only solid part of the defense.

Our DL is our best unit period. Wish some of them played outside, but on talent alone, DLine is hands down our one best unit..IMO.

In time it will be the entire O, but until we fully replace 43 of the 43 guys we had to do a redo on, it remains as of now, the DLine.

Congrats, Arik . May she encourage you to have multiple sacks and hits every game.

Does the carpet match the drapes?

I am hoping for Bosa or Allen at 2, obviously Bosa option 1, and Allen as option 2. In FA I am hoping for Brandon Graham. So if we land Graham in FA, then we'd know we have our 2 edge rushers, because we will get 1 of Bosa/Allen, thus Armstead becomes expendable. Don't know what we could get in trade, but I would let all the teams know he is available, and then take the best draft pick package offered.
I like Armstead, and I want him to succeed, but his injury history is too long, and I'd rather spend similar to slightly more money per season, on an established player with better numbers and health history.

Does he know Ginger's don't have souls?

Another sucker getting married lol