The Jaquiski "Pop" Tartt Gonna Rip Your Face Off Thread

Originally posted by ElephantHaley:

Originally posted by sincalfaithful:
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This isHow I feel about this pick. If Reid is done, then Balke wasted 2 picks for Reid so he then reaches for a Sanford product in the 2nd #46 overall?? This is a very Laughable offense. Balke has got to go.

so now with a day left in the draft,, before you even seen these guys who have been drafted and signed as free agents, before the team ever does a practice, trent has got to go? you could get a job in the funny papers now

Originally posted by ElephantHaley:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by ElephantHaley:
What does this pick say about Eric Reid. Bust. What does this pick say about Ward? bust 2.0

you are just nuts now to call eric a bust. he is a fine player but he has some head issues. could be insurance for that,, could be insurance when bethea leaves and its a upgrade over dahl.. it is proactive thinking,, not the re active thinking so many do around here.. i think your comments say more about you than it does about our players

No. I liked the Arik Armstead pick. I like the Eli Harold pick. I hate drafting 3 safeties HIGH 3 straight years. Its idiotic and you know it.

With Graham now a seahawk, we need a goddam platoon of safeties.

Yahoo Rotoworld had Tarrt as the #115 prospect and Harold as the #60 lol.

Originally posted by cciowa:
calling eric a bust is stupid and you know it

i'm not calling Eric Reid a Bust, Balke is by Drafting another safety HIGH when Reid, Bethea and Ward were on board already.

Can't wait to see Jimmi Graham get Tartted up!

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Nor how we plan to use them. They are worse than many of our own fans.

Yup! We've assumed we've had all these holes but you've told us for months now that we don't. Fans just don't see it that way though

And I'm just going to keep reposting this until a few back off from the ledge:

Essentially what this allows us to do on passing downs is keep Johnson at outside CB for press coverage (doesn't have to shift over to the slot to cover bigger TE/WR's now), take either Bowman or Wilhoite off the field in coverage and sub Tartt in and allow Ward to roam the slot as well in passing downs. He'll play a hybrid Chancellor-role and ST's for us right now and grow into the SS position...just like Ward with Slot CB-to-FS should something happen to Reid (concussions). This is a great idea with Bowman's knee and Wilhoite's weakness in coverage. We just got some insight into Mangini's defense.

The only problem is if Reid stays healthy we drafted Ward in the 1st round as a back up FS and an underachieving NCB which really isn't his forte. Tartt looks like a good prospect but two 1st rounders and a mid 2nd rounder at the safety position in 3 years is a lot of draft capital.

I guess we will see in august/september if we are a deep team with no holes to fill and we are just adding BPA in this draft or if maybe there were some holes we might have tried to fill in the draft.

I am actually less worried about Tartt justifying his draft position than I am about Ward, especially with Tartt coming in.

The way the league is going, the need for more safeties playing as nickels to combat the spread offenses. ..I'm digging the ferocity of this kid.

Originally posted by DeUh:


ESPN´s Take

He has the length and speed to excel in zone coverage and cover tight ends in man-to-man, and he flashes the ability to deliver the big hit. He can be a good run defender and playmaker against the half.

Tartt has excellent upside and new defensive coordinator Eric Mangini should have time to bring him along without asking too much of him early on.

That's what Willis used to do for us. So he could help us right away.

Also, around this time last year, the Borland pick was almost exactly the same thing. Why draft a guy at a position at MLB where we are overabundant?

With our luck, zombies will attack our safeties sometime in the off-season.

When this pick was first announced I was like "WTF, we went with yet another safety!!!?!?"

I was pissed.....BUT THEN I thought about his potential role in the defense.

He wasn't drafted 2nd rd for depth folks. This guy is going to play a big role on defense, particularly in our nickel package, which we run a ton thanks to the increasingly pass-happy nature of the NFL

This kid will replace a LB (Wilhoite) in Nickel. Wilhoite is a serviceable 2-down LB next to Bowman, but struggles in coverage. Teams would scheme ways to get him isolated and burn us.

Tartt is built a lot like a smaller LB with coverage skills. He can tackle and cover. The versatility and ability to matchup with whatever opponents try to do is tremendous here. I love this pick.

Had no idea he's best friends with Jimmie Ward too! Makes this pick even cooler.

Originally posted by MC9BEAT:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Nor how we plan to use them. They are worse than many of our own fans.

Yup! We've assumed we've had all these holes but you've told us for months now that we don't. Fans just don't see it that way though

And I'm just going to keep reposting this until a few back off from the ledge:

Essentially what this allows us to do on passing downs is keep Johnson at outside CB for press coverage (doesn't have to shift over to the slot to cover bigger TE/WR's now), take either Bowman or Wilhoite off the field in coverage and sub Tartt in and allow Ward to roam the slot as well in passing downs. He'll play a hybrid Chancellor-role and ST's for us right now and grow into the SS position...just like Ward with Slot CB-to-FS should something happen to Reid (concussions). This is a great idea with Bowman's knee and Wilhoite's weakness in coverage. We just got some insight into Mangini's defense.

The only problem is if Reid stays healthy we drafted Ward in the 1st round as a back up FS and an underachieving NCB which really isn't his forte. Tartt looks like a good prospect but two 1st rounders and a mid 2nd rounder at the safety position in 3 years is a lot of draft capital.

I guess we will see in august/september if we are a deep team with no holes to fill and we are just adding BPA in this draft or if maybe there were some holes we might have tried to fill in the draft.

I am actually less worried about Tartt justifying his draft position than I am about Ward, especially with Tartt coming in.

It's more about scheme and HOW we used Ward. Last year we used him a lot in trail-mode and that's not his strength esp. when he wasn't healthy. He's more of a pure FS where he excels when the action is happening in from of him and he can utilize his talents/speed/play making ability. Tartt is going to be our Kam Chancellor in our big (nickel) sets on passing downs.



--------------- Eli Harold --------------- Darnell Dockett --------------- Arik Armstead --------------- Aldon Smith -------------------------

------------------------------------------------------- Navarro Bowman --------------- Jaquiski Tartt -------------------------------------------------

Tramaine Brock -------------- Antoine Bethea ---------------- Eric Reid --------------- Jimmie Ward ---------------- Dontae Johnson



Endless combinations here. You can also pull Bowman completely off the field and add another DB and allow Tartt to be that lone MIKE (like how we used to use Bowman). Or go a 3-man DL.

Hopefully Mangini uses Ward better this year and he can continue to grow into the slot CB for us and back up Reid at FS should he ever get hurt. It could very well end up being Tartt (SS) and Ward (FS) back there some day. Baalke is not going to be blindsided by another concussion-retirement.

any highlights of this guy?

What is Baalke's obsession with mediocre safeties? Jimmie Ward & now this little Tartt.

Originally posted by JBrack:

Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
any highlights of this guy?

Yup ^^^

Human missile!

Originally posted by NinerSickness:
What is Baalke's obsession with mediocre safeties? Jimmie Ward & now this little Tartt.