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May 2, 2015 at 7:13 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by flynhayn15:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
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Big difference in talent at wr vs safety IMO

Exactly, so would you rather have Tart and Smelter or Strong and any safety we could have drafted in the 4th.
I would prefer strong and a safety In the 4th for sure
We will have to agree to disagree. I don't see that much difference between strong and Smelter. Both need a bunch of development. I would definitely want Tart and Smelter over Strong and the Penn St. safety.

I thought there was a huge drop off after the first 3 Wrs.
[ Edited by flynhayn15 on May 2, 2015 at 7:17 PM ]
May 2, 2015 at 7:21 PM
Tart was drafted to cover graham. Plain and simple.
May 2, 2015 at 7:30 PM
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Lol two pro bowl safeties and a 1st round pick last year...how many pro bowl WRs do we have currently on the team???

Which WR available at 46 are you putting in the pro bowl already?

I believe we have the same amount as the last three Super Bowl champions. Combined.
May 2, 2015 at 10:37 PM
Originally posted by ziggy_gonna_rock:
Tart was drafted to cover graham. Plain and simple.

Pop Tartt VS Graham Cracker

I'll take Pop Tartts all the time
May 2, 2015 at 11:06 PM
Like this pick for the 49ers also
May 2, 2015 at 11:24 PM
Eric Reid is one concussion away from serious thoughts of retirement. Antoine Bethea is getting older, and isnt going to be around 2-3 years from now.

Having a Ward/Tartt combo at S is our future plans. If Reid stays healthy, great. Ward can stay at CB.

I think Baalke understands that this team is built around defense first, and maintaining that stability into the future is a must.
May 3, 2015 at 11:07 AM
Originally posted by Niners99:
Eric Reid is one concussion away from serious thoughts of retirement. Antoine Bethea is getting older, and isnt going to be around 2-3 years from now.

Having a Ward/Tartt combo at S is our future plans. If Reid stays healthy, great. Ward can stay at CB.

I think Baalke understands that this team is built around defense first, and maintaining that stability into the future is a must.

Ward can stay at CB? he is f**king garbage at cb. did he make one decent play in the regular season last year? i honestly can't remember him doing anything decent. he won't be on our team in 2 years and if he gets any meaningful time at CB this year that means our CB's are god awful and we are in trouble
May 3, 2015 at 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by frenchmov:
Ward can stay at CB? he is f**king garbage at cb. did he make one decent play in the regular season last year? i honestly can't remember him doing anything decent. he won't be on our team in 2 years and if he gets any meaningful time at CB this year that means our CB's are god awful and we are in trouble

he was hurt,, and it was not his fault our over rated d coordinator at the time thought it would be a cute idea to have the kid defend marshall one on one vs the bears. if he gets meaningful time at cb it also may mean he has showed great improvement from last year,, but of course that would destroy your little narrative that we are doomed
May 3, 2015 at 11:28 AM
Like this kid, prolly could have traded down and still got him, but what evs.

Bludgeon 2015 Go niners!
May 3, 2015 at 1:37 PM
Originally posted by ziggy_gonna_rock:
Tart was drafted to cover graham. Plain and simple.

No way is Baalke going to get caught with Ward on Marshall all game long again.
[ Edited by NCommand on May 3, 2015 at 1:38 PM ]
May 3, 2015 at 1:46 PM
Originally posted by flynhayn15:
Exactly, so would you rather have Tart and Smelter or Strong and any safety we could have drafted in the 4th.

This was regarded as a horrible draft (read: not deep) for safeties. Beyond the top few guys, the rest of them aren't much to write home about. On the other hand, the draft had plenty of talented WRs throughout the mid-late rounds. Heck, some of them even made it through without getting drafted, and were subsequently added by Trent.
May 3, 2015 at 1:54 PM
Originally posted by cciowa:
he was hurt,, and it was not his fault our over rated d coordinator at the time thought it would be a cute idea to have the kid defend marshall one on one vs the bears. if he gets meaningful time at cb it also may mean he has showed great improvement from last year,, but of course that would destroy your little narrative that we are doomed

he got torched the next week too by a fellow no-name rookie in arizona. there is no narrative. he played like absolute garbage, well below average even for a rookie. in that same game, another rookie CB on the bears made a game changing interception.

as for him being injured... ok? everyone is injured in some way. no excuses. maybe he will improve this year and i would love to eat crow but he showed me absolutely nothing last year, not even a glimmer of hope so i'm not expecting anything from him
May 3, 2015 at 2:03 PM
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by cciowa:
he was hurt,, and it was not his fault our over rated d coordinator at the time thought it would be a cute idea to have the kid defend marshall one on one vs the bears. if he gets meaningful time at cb it also may mean he has showed great improvement from last year,, but of course that would destroy your little narrative that we are doomed

he got torched the next week too by a fellow no-name rookie in arizona. there is no narrative. he played like absolute garbage, well below average even for a rookie. in that same game, another rookie CB on the bears made a game changing interception.

as for him being injured... ok? everyone is injured in some way. no excuses. maybe he will improve this year and i would love to eat crow but he showed me absolutely nothing last year, not even a glimmer of hope so i'm not expecting anything from him

I could have sworn those plays were broken down and it was on Reid biting on the play action and subsequently being out of position to provide over the top coverage on Brown. I may be thinking of the wrong play though. Ward didn't pay great but I can see the potential.
May 3, 2015 at 2:09 PM
Originally posted by frenchmov:
he got torched the next week too by a fellow no-name rookie in arizona. there is no narrative. he played like absolute garbage, well below average even for a rookie. in that same game, another rookie CB on the bears made a game changing interception.

as for him being injured... ok? everyone is injured in some way. no excuses. maybe he will improve this year and i would love to eat crow but he showed me absolutely nothing last year, not even a glimmer of hope so i'm not expecting anything from him

Even if Ward continues to improve next season, I get the impression you'll focus on the negative.
May 3, 2015 at 2:24 PM
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Originally posted by MeddlingKids:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
he got torched the next week too by a fellow no-name rookie in arizona. there is no narrative. he played like absolute garbage, well below average even for a rookie. in that same game, another rookie CB on the bears made a game changing interception.

as for him being injured... ok? everyone is injured in some way. no excuses. maybe he will improve this year and i would love to eat crow but he showed me absolutely nothing last year, not even a glimmer of hope so i'm not expecting anything from him

Even if Ward continues to improve next season, I get the impression you'll focus on the negative.

Evaluating a drafted player after the first year of play is a fool's errand.

Robert Quinn, of the Rams, drafted 14th overall in the 2011 draft has proven to be an excellent player, but his first year was not very good. (23 tackles and 5 sacks).

We should at least give Ward another year before.............

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