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May 15, 2015 at 7:46 AM
- InsertNameHere1
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I was really hoping that we would take the fastest RB, on the board, whenever we decided to draft one.
May 15, 2015 at 9:06 AM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by InsertNameHere:
I was really hoping that we would take the fastest RB, on the board, whenever we decided to draft one.
Pretty sure he was the fastest RB left, He's a 3-down back (which we don't have after Hyde). I mean he ran between a 4.38-4.45 at his pro-day.
May 15, 2015 at 9:30 AM
- KyleShanahan
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Originally posted by InsertNameHere:
I was really hoping that we would take the fastest RB, on the board, whenever we decided to draft one.
No way. We need bellcows. Bush and Hunter are the 'fast' guys. Hyde was the only pounder on the team and injuries might be a concern with him. If Hyde were to go down next year we would have no run game between the tackles.This pick was exactly what we needed.
May 15, 2015 at 9:49 AM
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by InsertNameHere:
I was really hoping that we would take the fastest RB, on the board, whenever we decided to draft one.
Pretty sure he was the fastest RB left, He's a 3-down back (which we don't have after Hyde). I mean he ran between a 4.38-4.45 at his pro-day.
At the combine he ran a 4.6-40, so I'm a little skeptical about his proday time. Dropping .2 seconds off of your time is a lot.
May 15, 2015 at 9:57 AM
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Originally posted by NYniner85:and how in the world can you make any sort of a judgement on him before he takes a snap in the nfl,, some at the time ripped the team for taking a broken down back named gire who would have a short shelf life in the nfl and we will rue the day we got rid of kevin barlow
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Meh
Not to be a hater but he looks like your average 3rd string RB
How so? after the 2013 season he was regarded as the 3rd best back behind Gurley and Gordon...he dealt with injuries and condition was a bit of a issue. I think we got a steal in the draft if he can focus on staying in shape.
May 15, 2015 at 10:31 AM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by InsertNameHere:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by InsertNameHere:
I was really hoping that we would take the fastest RB, on the board, whenever we decided to draft one.
Pretty sure he was the fastest RB left, He's a 3-down back (which we don't have after Hyde). I mean he ran between a 4.38-4.45 at his pro-day.
At the combine he ran a 4.6-40, so I'm a little skeptical about his proday time. Dropping .2 seconds off of your time is a lot.
Ameer Abdullah ran a 4.6 at the combine do you consider him slow?? Duke Johnson ran a 4.52 is he slow?? BIG difference between a 40 time and game speed. Davis was looked at as a top 3 RB behind Gurley and Gordon before the 2014 season started. He had injuries and condition was bit of a issue in 2014....this kid has some real potential and we have a stud RB coach to help him out
May 15, 2015 at 11:26 AM
- thl408
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by InsertNameHere:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by InsertNameHere:
I was really hoping that we would take the fastest RB, on the board, whenever we decided to draft one.
Pretty sure he was the fastest RB left, He's a 3-down back (which we don't have after Hyde). I mean he ran between a 4.38-4.45 at his pro-day.
At the combine he ran a 4.6-40, so I'm a little skeptical about his proday time. Dropping .2 seconds off of your time is a lot.
Ameer Abdullah ran a 4.6 at the combine do you consider him slow?? Duke Johnson ran a 4.52 is he slow?? BIG difference between a 40 time and game speed. Davis was looked at as a top 3 RB behind Gurley and Gordon before the 2014 season started. He had injuries and condition was bit of a issue in 2014....this kid has some real potential and we have a stud RB coach to help him out
To add on to what you said, NY. Big difference between a RB running a 4.6 and a defensive back or WR running a 4.6. WRs and DBs need that straight line speed since they are often in open space. RBs often don't get the chance to flash their straight line speed. Only once in awhile they get daylight to run towards and use that straight line speed, when they break past the second level of defenders. When RBs break to daylight, defenders are often having to change directions to chase them. As in, the RB breaks past the second level of defenders and every defender now has to turn 180 to give chase. This is an advantage to the RB. Of course it's preferable that the RB to be able to take it to the house and not get caught from behind, but breaking off chunk 20 yard runs because he has high short area quickness should be the main point of emphasis.
This runs sums it up. Not comparing MDavis to Gore, but that short area quickness can get the RB into the open field and if he gets caught from behind, so be it. Most RBs as not faster than a DB. They need some bulk to withstand the punishment of toting the rock. The ones that do have burner speed go in the early rounds. Notice how Thomas has to do a 180 to give chase. RBs usually have this advantage when they break into the open field.
May 15, 2015 at 11:34 AM
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Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by InsertNameHere:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by InsertNameHere:
I was really hoping that we would take the fastest RB, on the board, whenever we decided to draft one.
Pretty sure he was the fastest RB left, He's a 3-down back (which we don't have after Hyde). I mean he ran between a 4.38-4.45 at his pro-day.
At the combine he ran a 4.6-40, so I'm a little skeptical about his proday time. Dropping .2 seconds off of your time is a lot.
Ameer Abdullah ran a 4.6 at the combine do you consider him slow?? Duke Johnson ran a 4.52 is he slow?? BIG difference between a 40 time and game speed. Davis was looked at as a top 3 RB behind Gurley and Gordon before the 2014 season started. He had injuries and condition was bit of a issue in 2014....this kid has some real potential and we have a stud RB coach to help him out
To add on to what you said, NY. Big difference between a RB running a 4.6 and a defensive back or WR running a 4.6. WRs and DBs need that straight line speed since they are often in open space. RBs often don't get the chance to flash their straight line speed. Only once in awhile they get daylight to run towards and use that straight line speed, when they break past the second level of defenders. When RBs break to daylight, defenders are often having to change directions to chase them. As in, the RB breaks past the second level of defenders and every defender now has to turn 180 to give chase. This is an advantage to the RB. Of course it's preferable that the RB to be able to take it to the house and not get caught from behind, but breaking off chunk 20 yard runs because he has high short area quickness should be the main point of emphasis.
This runs sums it up. Not comparing MDavis to Gore, but that short area quickness can get the RB into the open field and if he gets caught from behind, so be it. Most RBs as not faster than a DB. They need some bulk to withstand the punishment of toting the rock. The ones that do have burner speed go in the early rounds. Notice how Thomas has to do a 180 to give chase. RBs usually have this advantage when they break into the open field.
Couldn't have said it better
May 15, 2015 at 11:40 AM
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by InsertNameHere:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by InsertNameHere:
I was really hoping that we would take the fastest RB, on the board, whenever we decided to draft one.
Pretty sure he was the fastest RB left, He's a 3-down back (which we don't have after Hyde). I mean he ran between a 4.38-4.45 at his pro-day.
At the combine he ran a 4.6-40, so I'm a little skeptical about his proday time. Dropping .2 seconds off of your time is a lot.
Ameer Abdullah ran a 4.6 at the combine do you consider him slow?? Duke Johnson ran a 4.52 is he slow?? BIG difference between a 40 time and game speed. Davis was looked at as a top 3 RB behind Gurley and Gordon before the 2014 season started. He had injuries and condition was bit of a issue in 2014....this kid has some real potential and we have a stud RB coach to help him out
To add on to what you said, NY. Big difference between a RB running a 4.6 and a defensive back or WR running a 4.6. WRs and DBs need that straight line speed since they are often in open space. RBs often don't get the chance to flash their straight line speed. Only once in awhile they get daylight to run towards and use that straight line speed, when they break past the second level of defenders. When RBs break to daylight, defenders are often having to change directions to chase them. As in, the RB breaks past the second level of defenders and every defender now has to turn 180 to give chase. This is an advantage to the RB. Of course it's preferable that the RB to be able to take it to the house and not get caught from behind, but breaking off chunk 20 yard runs because he has high short area quickness should be the main point of emphasis.
This runs sums it up. Not comparing MDavis to Gore, but that short area quickness can get the RB into the open field and if he gets caught from behind, so be it. Most RBs as not faster than a DB. They need some bulk to withstand the punishment of toting the rock. The ones that do have burner speed go in the early rounds. Notice how Thomas has to do a 180 to give chase. RBs usually have this advantage when they break into the open field.
Couldn't have said it better
I know that for RBs quickness is more important that straight line speed.
How does his 3-cone compare to the other top RBs?
May 15, 2015 at 11:45 AM
- thl408
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Originally posted by InsertNameHere:
I know that for RBs quickness is more important that straight line speed.
How does his 3-cone compare to the other top RBs?
Originally posted by DeUh:Agreed it's mainly about the 3 cone drill, and also the 10 yard split. I'd also put hand size up there for ball security. No idea how his measurements rank.
Mike Davis South Carolina Round 4, Pick 27, Overall Pick 126 by San Francisco 49ers
Height 5-9
Weight 217
Arm Length 30 1/4
Hand Size 9 3/8
40-yard 4.61
10-yard 1.53
Vertical 35 1/2
Broad 09´08
Shuttle 4.18
3-cone drill 7.00
Bench press 17
Notes by ESPN Scout´s Inc
- Finishes strong and often fall forward at the end of runs
- Does all the little things
- Carries out ball fakes and effectively sells screens/draws
- Smart runner with good situational football awareness
- Does a nice job setting up blocks, with good vision as outside runner
- Smart runner
- Will press the sideline and then make sharp vertical cut behind his block
- Uses tempo effectively in open field to keep defenders off balance.
- Can make quick lateral cuts
- Effective jump cut and stop-start move to make penetrating defender miss in backfield
- Shows a second gear
- Keeps momentum forward and runs behind pads
- Tough to bring down when he has momentum behind him
- Consistently drops his pads before entering crowd, and is strong enough in lower body to drive forward for extra yards
- Effective spin move.
- Soft hands on screens thrown high and away
- Shows ability to adjust to ball on run
- Smooth and quick to transition upfield after catch
- In pass pro, gets in position, gets low and shows good initial pop
ESPN´s Take
Davis possesses a well-rounded skill set. At 5-9 and 217 pounds, he runs with a low center of gravity and has quality power as an inside runner. Davis also shows very good patience and vision as a runner and brings versatility as a receiver in the passing game.
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May 15, 2015 at 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by InsertNameHere:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by InsertNameHere:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by InsertNameHere:
I was really hoping that we would take the fastest RB, on the board, whenever we decided to draft one.
Pretty sure he was the fastest RB left, He's a 3-down back (which we don't have after Hyde). I mean he ran between a 4.38-4.45 at his pro-day.
At the combine he ran a 4.6-40, so I'm a little skeptical about his proday time. Dropping .2 seconds off of your time is a lot.
Ameer Abdullah ran a 4.6 at the combine do you consider him slow?? Duke Johnson ran a 4.52 is he slow?? BIG difference between a 40 time and game speed. Davis was looked at as a top 3 RB behind Gurley and Gordon before the 2014 season started. He had injuries and condition was bit of a issue in 2014....this kid has some real potential and we have a stud RB coach to help him out
To add on to what you said, NY. Big difference between a RB running a 4.6 and a defensive back or WR running a 4.6. WRs and DBs need that straight line speed since they are often in open space. RBs often don't get the chance to flash their straight line speed. Only once in awhile they get daylight to run towards and use that straight line speed, when they break past the second level of defenders. When RBs break to daylight, defenders are often having to change directions to chase them. As in, the RB breaks past the second level of defenders and every defender now has to turn 180 to give chase. This is an advantage to the RB. Of course it's preferable that the RB to be able to take it to the house and not get caught from behind, but breaking off chunk 20 yard runs because he has high short area quickness should be the main point of emphasis.
This runs sums it up. Not comparing MDavis to Gore, but that short area quickness can get the RB into the open field and if he gets caught from behind, so be it. Most RBs as not faster than a DB. They need some bulk to withstand the punishment of toting the rock. The ones that do have burner speed go in the early rounds. Notice how Thomas has to do a 180 to give chase. RBs usually have this advantage when they break into the open field.
Couldn't have said it better
I know that for RBs quickness is more important that straight line speed.
How does his 3-cone compare to the other top RBs?
he had a 7 sec 3-cone drill which was better than Gordon (7th overall)
[ Edited by NYniner85 on May 15, 2015 at 11:52 AM ]
May 15, 2015 at 12:28 PM
- Tru2RedNGold25
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Speed doesn't guarantee success. Last time I checked Gore was successful for us for a whole decade. Davis is similar to Gore so i feel comfortable n confident him being our back of the future. He will do just fine.
May 15, 2015 at 12:46 PM
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Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
Speed doesn't guarantee success. Last time I checked Gore was successful for us for a whole decade. Davis is similar to Gore so i feel comfortable n confident him being our back of the future. He will do just fine.
Prefer Hyde over Davis, but yes I think both have a real future for us
May 15, 2015 at 1:37 PM
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Originally posted by thl408:
Agreed it's mainly about the 3 cone drill, and also the 10 yard split. I'd also put hand size up there for ball security. No idea how his measurements rank.
San Francisco 49ers
Mike Davis 217 lbs / 10-Yard 1.53 / 3-cone drill 7.00
2015 NFL Draft
Melvin Gordon 215 lbs / 10-Yard 1.62 / 3-cone drill 7.04
NFL
Marshawn Lynch 215 lbs / 10-Yard 1.60 / 3-cone drill 7.05
[ Edited by DeUh on May 15, 2015 at 1:41 PM ]
May 15, 2015 at 1:43 PM
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^^ Oh yeah. He quick.