Marcus Peters Thread

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

As i said, people are just looking at that stat sheet. He didn't make it to the pro bowl just on stats.

Actually, that's EXACTLY how pro bowls are voted on...they just highlight the "key stats."

But to your point, he is a quality CB. He's risk-reward and has as many ups and downs as you'd expect for an aggressive rookie CB. Pro bowl worthy? Probably not b/c that would demonstrate more consistency at a high level (which he's reached).

Originally posted by susweel:
Thank you everyone who gave me props for my outstanding pre draft analysis of last seasons amateur draft. I'm already hard at work analyzing film and scouting the eligible student athletes for the 2016 selection process. I'll keep you guys posted with my mock selections as we near the selection date.



Your friend,
sus

We can't wait!

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by susweel:

Thank you everyone who gave me props for my outstanding pre draft analysis of last seasons amateur draft. I'm already hard at work analyzing film and scouting the eligible student athletes for the 2016 selection process. I'll keep you guys posted with my mock selections as we near the selection date.



Your friend,
sus

If only the Niners had taken susweel's advice, they'd have the second-worst CB in the league in yardage allowed and a corner who has given up 7 TD catches!

Oh well, another opportunity lost...

Oh you mean the guy who got Pro bowl honors as a rookie ?

Apparently it's pretty normal for the "second-worst CB in the league" to go to the Pro Bowl

1000 bucks says these guys look at the stat sheets and dont even watch him play.

He's a stud.

More like they desperately find reasons to discredit a guy who is going to the pro bowl while the guy we drafted isn't. Sad really.

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:
Apparently it's pretty normal for the "second-worst CB in the league" to go to the Pro Bowl

Like I said perfect fit for KC's press-man and stud pass rush. He lacks in zone coverage (watch tape of him and Strong in college) and that is what we play mostly. Throw in a bad pass rush and I wouldn't see him making plays for us like he's doing in KC. INTs are one thing but giving up a s**t ton of TDs and yards is worse IMO.

Sherman only has 2 INTs is he no good? Peters has a good career ahead of him but there were many other more deserving IMO


Marcus Peters, CB, Kanas City Chiefs Per PFF:

Why he was picked: Those big, juicy interception numbers. A rookie with seven picks? He must be playing brilliantly.

Why he is a poor pick: Because interceptions aren't everything. And what's more, why don't we look at the actual picks themselves? There is a big difference between the ball being thrown to you, and actually making a play on the ball. We can't ignore the fact that Peters has been beat for seven touchdowns this year (fourth-worst in the league) and allowed more yards into his coverage (902) than every NFL corner except Pittsburgh's Antwon Blake.

Alternative selection: Pick your poison, because cornerback is a deep position this season. Let's look at Detroit's Darius Slay (88.9), briefly, because he had a heck of a year and got no love. Buffalo's Ronald Darby (87.1) would be another fine rookie option.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:

Apparently it's pretty normal for the "second-worst CB in the league" to go to the Pro Bowl

Like I said perfect fit for KC's press-man and stud pass rush. He lacks in zone coverage (watch tape of him and Strong in college) and that is what we play mostly. Throw in a bad pass rush and I wouldn't see him making plays for us like he's doing in KC. INTs are one thing but giving up a s**t ton of TDs and yards is worse IMO.

Sherman only has 2 INTs is he no good? Peters has a good career ahead of him but there were many other more deserving IMO


Marcus Peters, CB, Kanas City Chiefs Per PFF:

Why he was picked: Those big, juicy interception numbers. A rookie with seven picks? He must be playing brilliantly.

Why he is a poor pick: Because interceptions aren't everything. And what's more, why don't we look at the actual picks themselves? There is a big difference between the ball being thrown to you, and actually making a play on the ball. We can't ignore the fact that Peters has been beat for seven touchdowns this year (fourth-worst in the league) and allowed more yards into his coverage (902) than every NFL corner except Pittsburgh's Antwon Blake.

Alternative selection: Pick your poison, because cornerback is a deep position this season. Let's look at Detroit's Darius Slay (88.9), briefly, because he had a heck of a year and got no love. Buffalo's Ronald Darby (87.1) would be another fine rookie option.

They will say that PFF is horrible.

Originally posted by joaosoarrs99:

They will say that PFF is horrible.

Why is it horrible? Explain?

They factor in much much more than just someone getting a INT. They factor in every single play for each player and are not bias. Scouts and NFL teams use their stats as well.

Besides you think getting a couple INTs makes up for giving up the 2nd most yards and 4th most TDs in the league?

I think the kid has played okay but not close to deserving a pro bowl nod. I could say the same for Bow...a s**t ton of tackles but he was awful in coverage not a complete LB. the good thing is it looks like he is getting better.

Originally posted by joaosoarrs99:

They will say that PFF is horrible.

Also go look at their rankings it's pretty consistent with who's the best player are their given positions...sorry if the truth hurts

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Why is it horrible? Explain?

They factor in much much more than just someone getting a INT. They factor in every single play for each player and are not bias. Scouts and NFL teams use their stats as well.

Besides you think getting a couple INTs makes up for giving up the 2nd most yards and 4th most TDs in the league?

I think the kid has played okay but not close to deserving a pro bowl nod. I could say the same for Bow...a s**t ton of tackles but he was awful in coverage not a complete LB. the good thing is it looks like he is getting better.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Also go look at their rankings it's pretty consistent with who's the best player are their given positions...sorry if the truth hurts

I love PFF dude. I was just saying that susswel and ChazBoner don't like it.

Originally posted by joaosoarrs99:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Why is it horrible? Explain?

They factor in much much more than just someone getting a INT. They factor in every single play for each player and are not bias. Scouts and NFL teams use their stats as well.

Besides you think getting a couple INTs makes up for giving up the 2nd most yards and 4th most TDs in the league?

I think the kid has played okay but not close to deserving a pro bowl nod. I could say the same for Bow...a s**t ton of tackles but he was awful in coverage not a complete LB. the good thing is it looks like he is getting better.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Also go look at their rankings it's pretty consistent with who's the best player are their given positions...sorry if the truth hurts

I love PFF dude. I was just saying that susswel and ChazBoner don't like it.

Oh lol my bad

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by joaosoarrs99:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Why is it horrible? Explain?

They factor in much much more than just someone getting a INT. They factor in every single play for each player and are not bias. Scouts and NFL teams use their stats as well.

Besides you think getting a couple INTs makes up for giving up the 2nd most yards and 4th most TDs in the league?

I think the kid has played okay but not close to deserving a pro bowl nod. I could say the same for Bow...a s**t ton of tackles but he was awful in coverage not a complete LB. the good thing is it looks like he is getting better.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Also go look at their rankings it's pretty consistent with who's the best player are their given positions...sorry if the truth hurts

I love PFF dude. I was just saying that susswel and ChazBoner don't like it.

Oh lol my bad

No problem.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:

Apparently it's pretty normal for the "second-worst CB in the league" to go to the Pro Bowl

Like I said perfect fit for KC's press-man and stud pass rush. He lacks in zone coverage (watch tape of him and Strong in college) and that is what we play mostly. Throw in a bad pass rush and I wouldn't see him making plays for us like he's doing in KC. INTs are one thing but giving up a s**t ton of TDs and yards is worse IMO.

Sherman only has 2 INTs is he no good? Peters has a good career ahead of him but there were many other more deserving IMO


Marcus Peters, CB, Kanas City Chiefs Per PFF:

Why he was picked: Those big, juicy interception numbers. A rookie with seven picks? He must be playing brilliantly.

Why he is a poor pick: Because interceptions aren't everything. And what's more, why don't we look at the actual picks themselves? There is a big difference between the ball being thrown to you, and actually making a play on the ball. We can't ignore the fact that Peters has been beat for seven touchdowns this year (fourth-worst in the league) and allowed more yards into his coverage (902) than every NFL corner except Pittsburgh's Antwon Blake.

Alternative selection: Pick your poison, because cornerback is a deep position this season. Let's look at Detroit's Darius Slay (88.9), briefly, because he had a heck of a year and got no love. Buffalo's Ronald Darby (87.1) would be another fine rookie option.

Frankly it doens't matter what matters is he was chosen to the probowl as a rookie and not as an alternate. It's a shame people can't just accept that but instead try diminish it.

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:

Apparently it's pretty normal for the "second-worst CB in the league" to go to the Pro Bowl

Like I said perfect fit for KC's press-man and stud pass rush. He lacks in zone coverage (watch tape of him and Strong in college) and that is what we play mostly. Throw in a bad pass rush and I wouldn't see him making plays for us like he's doing in KC. INTs are one thing but giving up a s**t ton of TDs and yards is worse IMO.

Sherman only has 2 INTs is he no good? Peters has a good career ahead of him but there were many other more deserving IMO


Marcus Peters, CB, Kanas City Chiefs Per PFF:

Why he was picked: Those big, juicy interception numbers. A rookie with seven picks? He must be playing brilliantly.

Why he is a poor pick: Because interceptions aren't everything. And what's more, why don't we look at the actual picks themselves? There is a big difference between the ball being thrown to you, and actually making a play on the ball. We can't ignore the fact that Peters has been beat for seven touchdowns this year (fourth-worst in the league) and allowed more yards into his coverage (902) than every NFL corner except Pittsburgh's Antwon Blake.

Alternative selection: Pick your poison, because cornerback is a deep position this season. Let's look at Detroit's Darius Slay (88.9), briefly, because he had a heck of a year and got no love. Buffalo's Ronald Darby (87.1) would be another fine rookie option.

Frankly it doens't matter what matters is he was chosen to the probowl as a rookie and not as an alternate. It's a shame people can't just accept that but instead try diminish it.

Not diminishing it. Thought he played well but I thought there were other CBs more deserving and so did PFF.

Peters is in a good spot in KC and in the right system that plays to his strengths...not so sure it would have been the same in SF.

Sure it has already been mentioned, but Peters is second in the league in passes defended. It is not just interceptions. The guy is a dynamic player who could be very special in the future.

Baalke shoulda took this guy. AA hasn't impressed me as I hoped because out of college I liked AA but its been kind of a thud of a pick so far meanwhile Peters looks like a future star.

Originally posted by JoeMoKnows:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Yeah how about no. That goes to the guy who tops every single rookie ranking and HASN'T given up 7 touchdowns this season.

Don't watch Buf football, I would still take Peters over him in 1st round, and if Darby is that good yes he was a good 2nd round pick.

It helps playing behind Mario Williams, Kyle Williams and Marcel dareus