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Marcus Peters Thread
Feb 20, 2018 at 3:09 PM
- DonnieDarko
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trade them armsdead for peters straight up
Feb 20, 2018 at 3:49 PM
- SteveWallacesHelmet
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Originally posted by gold49digger:guys like peters don't get thrown into the trade block often unless its for a good reason. dude might not be a cancer off the field but he can cost teams the game due to his emotions. Plus being close too oakland might not be too good for him. Idk if lynch gets him ill be happy cause he is a great player despite those problems.
Quotes like the bolded make me laugh and shake my head.
Let me ask you this. Has it happened before? The answer is no. It absolutely has not. So why do people continue to make comments like his "attitude can cost his team games" when that has happened all of zero times before?
Peters helps a team far more than he hurts it. People simply like running with a narrative.
Feb 20, 2018 at 3:52 PM
- SteveWallacesHelmet
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Originally posted by okdkid:The real risk here is not in the trade compensation. It's in the extension.
You can't make a deal for Peters unless his agent agrees to provisions in any extension that protect the team for behavioral issues. If that doesn't happen, there's not shot at a deal.
Why does a player who is under team control for 2 more seasons under a rookie contract have to agree to an extension? Another thing that makes zero sense, yet people are running with this idea like its a fact.
Say you dont extend him. You pay him $3M in total over the next 2 years. Then say you franchise him him for year 3. You have then collectively paid one of the best cornerbacks in football a grand total of $17M for 3 years. Can anyone else say bargain?
Feb 20, 2018 at 3:52 PM
- sacniner
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Quotes like the bolded make me laugh and shake my head.
Let me ask you this. Has it happened before? The answer is no. It absolutely has not. So why do people continue to make comments like his "attitude can cost his team games" when that has happened all of zero times before?
Peters helps a team far more than he hurts it. People simply like running with a narrative.
He did get suspended for a really important game. That is huge.
I like him a lot and would love to have him. But he does not have a handle on his emotions. That's just a fact.
Feb 20, 2018 at 3:53 PM
- SteveWallacesHelmet
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Originally posted by sacniner:Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:Quotes like the bolded make me laugh and shake my head.
Let me ask you this. Has it happened before? The answer is no. It absolutely has not. So why do people continue to make comments like his "attitude can cost his team games" when that has happened all of zero times before?
Peters helps a team far more than he hurts it. People simply like running with a narrative.
He did get suspended for a really important game. That is huge.
I like him a lot and would love to have him. But he does not have a handle on his emotions. That's just a fact.
His team suspended him for the game. He wasnt forced to sit out. And the Chiefs won that game....so where is the game he cost his team?
Feb 20, 2018 at 3:55 PM
- evil
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:Originally posted by sacniner:Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:Quotes like the bolded make me laugh and shake my head.
Let me ask you this. Has it happened before? The answer is no. It absolutely has not. So why do people continue to make comments like his "attitude can cost his team games" when that has happened all of zero times before?
Peters helps a team far more than he hurts it. People simply like running with a narrative.
He did get suspended for a really important game. That is huge.
I like him a lot and would love to have him. But he does not have a handle on his emotions. That's just a fact.
His team suspended him for the game. He wasnt forced to sit out. And the Chiefs won that game....so where is the game he cost his team?
That Carolina incident could have cost his team the game. It did not but it showed a serious lack of self control.
Feb 20, 2018 at 3:59 PM
- sacniner
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
His team suspended him for the game. He wasnt forced to sit out. And the Chiefs won that game....so where is the game he cost his team?
I'm sorry, but he was suspended so what do you mean he "wasn't forced to sit out?" I think I missed something there...
He didn't cost his team that game, but he was suspended for a really important late season game. You don't think that is a big deal? I agree that he is worth the trouble, but I think you have to accept a few bonehead plays and emotional volatility with him. A lot more then the "norm."
I don't know if he is on the trade block, but I don't foresee Lynch going after him due to his reputation. Maybe I'm wrong. He has to deal with Foster's dumbass already.
Feb 20, 2018 at 4:27 PM
- SteveWallacesHelmet
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Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
His team suspended him for the game. He wasnt forced to sit out. And the Chiefs won that game....so where is the game he cost his team?
I'm sorry, but he was suspended so what do you mean he "wasn't forced to sit out?" I think I missed something there...
He didn't cost his team that game, but he was suspended for a really important late season game. You don't think that is a big deal? I agree that he is worth the trouble, but I think you have to accept a few bonehead plays and emotional volatility with him. A lot more then the "norm."
I don't know if he is on the trade block, but I don't foresee Lynch going after him due to his reputation. Maybe I'm wrong. He has to deal with Foster's dumbass already.
I just meant that it was a team sanctioned suspension. It isnt like he broke NFL rules and was handed down a suspension from the league. Thats all I meant by that.
Feb 20, 2018 at 4:29 PM
- sacniner
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I just meant that it was a team sanctioned suspension. It isnt like he broke NFL rules and was handed down a suspension from the league. Thats all I meant by that.
Ah, got you.... I think that is was a team sanctioned suspension is even more troubling. He's a stud CB. Team must have been fed up to bench him in an important game.
Feb 20, 2018 at 5:33 PM
- 9ersLiferInChicago
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No, no, no. We don't need the headache that's sure to come with it.
Feb 20, 2018 at 6:02 PM
- okdkid
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by okdkid:
The real risk here is not in the trade compensation. It's in the extension.
You can't make a deal for Peters unless his agent agrees to provisions in any extension that protect the team for behavioral issues. If that doesn't happen, there's not shot at a deal.
Why does a player who is under team control for 2 more seasons under a rookie contract have to agree to an extension? Another thing that makes zero sense, yet people are running with this idea like its a fact.
Say you dont extend him. You pay him $3M in total over the next 2 years. Then say you franchise him him for year 3. You have then collectively paid one of the best cornerbacks in football a grand total of $17M for 3 years. Can anyone else say bargain?
Your numbers aren't anywhere close to being accurate.
[ Edited by okdkid on Feb 20, 2018 at 6:02 PM ]
Feb 20, 2018 at 6:55 PM
- Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:Quotes like the bolded make me laugh and shake my head.
Let me ask you this. Has it happened before? The answer is no. It absolutely has not. So why do people continue to make comments like his "attitude can cost his team games" when that has happened all of zero times before?
Peters helps a team far more than he hurts it. People simply like running with a narrative.
If there is any truth to the report, why would the Chiefs be looking to unload a young star CB on a cheap rookie contract?
Feb 20, 2018 at 7:53 PM
- dj43
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
If there is any truth to the report, why would the Chiefs be looking to unload a young star CB on a cheap rookie contract?
That is the $64,000 question. All the answers are somewhat speculative.
As far as the 49ers go, Lynch would have to give up a lot of valuable capital going forward in order to get KC to send him here. It is going to cost a LOT more than a 3rd round pick as some have suggested. I think such a deal starts with a 1st round pick...and...if he plays like he has the past two years, he would be worth one 1st. Will KC demand more than that?
Feb 20, 2018 at 9:49 PM
- SteveYoung
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Originally posted by dj43:That is the $64,000 question. All the answers are somewhat speculative.
As far as the 49ers go, Lynch would have to give up a lot of valuable capital going forward in order to get KC to send him here. It is going to cost a LOT more than a 3rd round pick as some have suggested. I think such a deal starts with a 1st round pick...and...if he plays like he has the past two years, he would be worth one 1st. Will KC demand more than that?
Trade with Buffalo for 21 and 22.
Draft RG Isaiah Wynn @ 21
Draft Leighton Vander Esch @ 59
Trade 22 to KC for Marcus Peters
Sign LG Josh Sitton
Plan the SB parade.
Feb 21, 2018 at 5:41 AM
- ninerfan4life
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Everyone has been b***hing for years that we should have drafted Peters over Armstead. And now that he's available for trade no one wants him lol