Marcus Peters Thread

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I know what you are saying. But people keep claiming that Peters has these problems and issues that are compared to Foster....and they are not even comparable. That is my issue. Foster cant stay out of handcuffs, and people are comparing that to a player who chucked a refs flag into the stands.

There are many other instances of emotional volatility that just that one. His issues are on the field, Fosters are off of it. Not the type of personality this locker room needs right now.

Such as?

To name just a few :

-pregame incident when they played the Skins, had to be pulled away by coaches
-blow up on the sidelines directed at Sutton vs Texans
-Carolina incident where he punted ball in stands after causing a TO in which he is lucky that it did not cost team the game
-blew up on an assistant coach after that Jets game which factored into his 1 game suspension

Houston and Berry were routinely pulling him aside and getting in his ear trying to shut him up.

Originally posted by evil:
To name just a few :

-pregame incident when they played the Skins, had to be pulled away by coaches Are you speaking of the time when Peters and Josh Norman were jawing at each other before a game? THAT is the pregame incident you are speaking of? Yeah, it is SO uncommon for NFL players to talk trash to each other. LOL.
-blow up on the sidelines directed at Sutton vs Texans Sideline "blowups" are so irrelevant it makes me laugh. When Jerry Rice or Tom Brady blow up at a coach, they are fierce competitors. When Marcus Peters or Terrell Owens do it, they are cancers or problems and their actions have no business in the NFL. Its absolutely comical.
-Carolina incident where he punted ball in stands after causing a TO in which he is lucky that it did not cost team the game He is lucky He is lucky that a 5 yard penalty after a game winning turnover he created in deep in Carolina's own territory, didnt cost his team the game? LMFAO. OK dude.
-blew up on an assistant coach after that Jets game which factored into his 1 game suspension Says who? There are countless articles about the suspension which say that Andy Reid would not elaborate on whether or not the flag throwing or him leaving the field were the reasons he was suspended. Not a single one mentions a blowup on a coach having anything to do with the suspension.

Houston and Berry were routinely pulling him aside and getting in his ear trying to shut him up.

See my responses above. You say just to name a few, but:

a) you didnt really mention anything that is really an issue, let alone a "few"
b) when you say "just to name a few" it implies that there are more. Based on the issues you DID bring up, I find it almost impossible to believe there are more issues.

Back to my original point. The only major incident Peters has had was throwing the flag into the stands.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
See my responses above. You say just to name a few, but:

a) you didnt really mention anything that is really an issue, let alone a "few"
b) when you say "just to name a few" it implies that there are more. Based on the issues you DID bring up, I find it almost impossible to believe there are more issues.

Back to my original point. The only major incident Peters has had was throwing the flag into the stands.

Not tryna argue with you, but just so we are clear, the one game suspension is not a "major incident" by your standards?

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
See my responses above. You say just to name a few, but:

a) you didnt really mention anything that is really an issue, let alone a "few"
b) when you say "just to name a few" it implies that there are more. Based on the issues you DID bring up, I find it almost impossible to believe there are more issues.

Back to my original point. The only major incident Peters has had was throwing the flag into the stands.

Not tryna argue with you, but just so we are clear, the one game suspension is not a "major incident" by your standards?

I meant major incidents in terms of Peters' actions. So the suspension was the result of the major incident of him throwing the flag into the stands and leaving the field (and I will give him the benefit of the doubt that leaving the field was a result of him thinking he was ejected.). The suspension in and of itself is not the incident, what he did was.

Thats what I meant.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I meant major incidents in terms of Peters' actions. So the suspension was the result of the major incident of him throwing the flag into the stands and leaving the field (and I will give him the benefit of the doubt that leaving the field was a result of him thinking he was ejected.). The suspension in and of itself is not the incident, what he did was.

Thats what I meant.

Got you... there have been other issues that haven't been as severe. Again, I think he is worth the "trouble" because of his talent.

If he is on the block (big if) would love to know why...

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by evil:

To name just a few :

-pregame incident when they played the Skins, had to be pulled away by coaches Are you speaking of the time when Peters and Josh Norman were jawing at each other before a game? THAT is the pregame incident you are speaking of? Yeah, it is SO uncommon for NFL players to talk trash to each other. LOL.
-blow up on the sidelines directed at Sutton vs Texans Sideline "blowups" are so irrelevant it makes me laugh. When Jerry Rice or Tom Brady blow up at a coach, they are fierce competitors. When Marcus Peters or Terrell Owens do it, they are cancers or problems and their actions have no business in the NFL. Its absolutely comical.
-Carolina incident where he punted ball in stands after causing a TO in which he is lucky that it did not cost team the game He is lucky He is lucky that a 5 yard penalty after a game winning turnover he created in deep in Carolina's own territory, didnt cost his team the game? LMFAO. OK dude.
-blew up on an assistant coach after that Jets game which factored into his 1 game suspension Says who? There are countless articles about the suspension which say that Andy Reid would not elaborate on whether or not the flag throwing or him leaving the field were the reasons he was suspended. Not a single one mentions a blowup on a coach having anything to do with the suspension.

Houston and Berry were routinely pulling him aside and getting in his ear trying to shut him up.

See my responses above. You say just to name a few, but:

a) you didnt really mention anything that is really an issue, let alone a "few"
b) when you say "just to name a few" it implies that there are more. Based on the issues you DID bring up, I find it almost impossible to believe there are more issues.

Back to my original point. The only major incident Peters has had was throwing the flag into the stands.

That Skins game also saw him berate fans with obscenities.

The punting of the ball in the Panthers game was the second week in a row he punted a ball into the stands. And his penalty pushed his team from being in range of a 40 yard fg to 45 yards, all with less than 30 seconds left. Players need to be smarter than that.

Reid would not feed the media whether his spat with a coach factored into the suspension but it probably did.

Like I said these are a few times his emotional volatility was seen. It has happened other times too with the Chiefs as well and has also happened in college and in HS. He struggles with keeping his composure and emotions in check.

You can choose to downplay it all, but it boiled to a point where the team finally took a stand and suspended him for that volatility this year. That kind of temperament is not going to sit well with all front offices, coaches or teammates. We are still trying to build this team up and establish a culture, and it would not be a great look for our locker room to have a player with a temper that can be divisive on this roster right now.

Originally posted by evil:
That Skins game also saw him berate fans with obscenities. You mean after the fan was calling Peters the N-word? LOL. Yeah man. Shame on Peters for this.

The punting of the ball in the Panthers game was the second week in a row he punted a ball into the stands. And his penalty pushed his team from being in range of a 40 yard fg to 45 yards, all with less than 30 seconds left. Players need to be smarter than that. The 1st time he did it, it was not a penalty. The difference? The 2nd time he was 2 feet away from the sidelines instead of already on it. This is nitpicking, and not a good example of him being volatile. He just made a game winning play. If his way of celebrating happened within 2 feet of where it did, its not a penalty. This is an awful example of him being volatile. He was excited for making a game winning play for his team.

Reid would not feed the media whether his spat with a coach factored into the suspension but it probably did. You saying it probably did is meaningless. You have zero way of knowing this and your opinion holds no more weight than mine.

Like I said these are a few times his emotional volatility was seen. It has happened other times too with the Chiefs as well and has also happened in college and in HS. He struggles with keeping his composure and emotions in check. And I would tend to agree with you if you could come up with better examples. Peters is an emotional player. He obviously cares.

You can choose to downplay it all, but it boiled to a point where the team finally took a stand and suspended him for that volatility this year. That kind of temperament is not going to sit well with all front offices, coaches or teammates. We are still trying to build this team up and establish a culture, and it would not be a great look for our locker room to have a player with a temper that can be divisive on this roster right now. Lots of baseless assumptions here. You have no idea what does or does not sit well with front offices, coaches or teammates. You also have no idea what "divides a locker room" or if that idea is anything more than a media created narrative. None of us know that. Yes, we ARE trying to establish a culture....a winning culture. Marcus Peters makes winning plays. Him being emotional has not trumped his ability to make plays in his career, and it is silly to assume that it would moving forward.

Fun discussion. I guess it just boils down to the fact that some people prefer players who arent emotional and are viewed as classy players over players who are just better players.

The TO was NOT a game winning play. The game was tied and his team still needed to score. Smart players dont do dumb s**t like that.

I do not mind players with bad raps on or off the field...but you have to have the right locker room for it. We currently do not have that.

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by evil:
To name just a few :

-pregame incident when they played the Skins, had to be pulled away by coaches Are you speaking of the time when Peters and Josh Norman were jawing at each other before a game? THAT is the pregame incident you are speaking of? Yeah, it is SO uncommon for NFL players to talk trash to each other. LOL.
-blow up on the sidelines directed at Sutton vs Texans Sideline "blowups" are so irrelevant it makes me laugh. When Jerry Rice or Tom Brady blow up at a coach, they are fierce competitors. When Marcus Peters or Terrell Owens do it, they are cancers or problems and their actions have no business in the NFL. Its absolutely comical.
-Carolina incident where he punted ball in stands after causing a TO in which he is lucky that it did not cost team the game He is lucky He is lucky that a 5 yard penalty after a game winning turnover he created in deep in Carolina's own territory, didnt cost his team the game? LMFAO. OK dude.
-blew up on an assistant coach after that Jets game which factored into his 1 game suspension Says who? There are countless articles about the suspension which say that Andy Reid would not elaborate on whether or not the flag throwing or him leaving the field were the reasons he was suspended. Not a single one mentions a blowup on a coach having anything to do with the suspension.

Houston and Berry were routinely pulling him aside and getting in his ear trying to shut him up.

See my responses above. You say just to name a few, but:

a) you didnt really mention anything that is really an issue, let alone a "few"
b) when you say "just to name a few" it implies that there are more. Based on the issues you DID bring up, I find it almost impossible to believe there are more issues.

Back to my original point. The only major incident Peters has had was throwing the flag into the stands.

That Skins game also saw him berate fans with obscenities.

The punting of the ball in the Panthers game was the second week in a row he punted a ball into the stands. And his penalty pushed his team from being in range of a 40 yard fg to 45 yards, all with less than 30 seconds left. Players need to be smarter than that.

Reid would not feed the media whether his spat with a coach factored into the suspension but it probably did.

Like I said these are a few times his emotional volatility was seen. It has happened other times too with the Chiefs as well and has also happened in college and in HS. He struggles with keeping his composure and emotions in check.

You can choose to downplay it all, but it boiled to a point where the team finally took a stand and suspended him for that volatility this year. That kind of temperament is not going to sit well with all front offices, coaches or teammates. We are still trying to build this team up and establish a culture, and it would not be a great look for our locker room to have a player with a temper that can be divisive on this roster right now.

lol. "You didn't mention any issues, except for the 4 issues you mentioned"

I think we do have a good locker room for him and he'll be happy that he's at home. Now could it possibly become an issue? I suppose, but hopefully the connects have dropped over the years.

Think he would have screwed up in the off season by now if he couldn't handle and get in trouble at home.

Originally posted by TheRambler:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by evil:

To name just a few :

-pregame incident when they played the Skins, had to be pulled away by coaches Are you speaking of the time when Peters and Josh Norman were jawing at each other before a game? THAT is the pregame incident you are speaking of? Yeah, it is SO uncommon for NFL players to talk trash to each other. LOL.
-blow up on the sidelines directed at Sutton vs Texans Sideline "blowups" are so irrelevant it makes me laugh. When Jerry Rice or Tom Brady blow up at a coach, they are fierce competitors. When Marcus Peters or Terrell Owens do it, they are cancers or problems and their actions have no business in the NFL. Its absolutely comical.
-Carolina incident where he punted ball in stands after causing a TO in which he is lucky that it did not cost team the game He is lucky He is lucky that a 5 yard penalty after a game winning turnover he created in deep in Carolina's own territory, didnt cost his team the game? LMFAO. OK dude.
-blew up on an assistant coach after that Jets game which factored into his 1 game suspension Says who? There are countless articles about the suspension which say that Andy Reid would not elaborate on whether or not the flag throwing or him leaving the field were the reasons he was suspended. Not a single one mentions a blowup on a coach having anything to do with the suspension.

Houston and Berry were routinely pulling him aside and getting in his ear trying to shut him up.

See my responses above. You say just to name a few, but:

a) you didnt really mention anything that is really an issue, let alone a "few"
b) when you say "just to name a few" it implies that there are more. Based on the issues you DID bring up, I find it almost impossible to believe there are more issues.

Back to my original point. The only major incident Peters has had was throwing the flag into the stands.

That Skins game also saw him berate fans with obscenities.

The punting of the ball in the Panthers game was the second week in a row he punted a ball into the stands. And his penalty pushed his team from being in range of a 40 yard fg to 45 yards, all with less than 30 seconds left. Players need to be smarter than that.

Reid would not feed the media whether his spat with a coach factored into the suspension but it probably did.

Like I said these are a few times his emotional volatility was seen. It has happened other times too with the Chiefs as well and has also happened in college and in HS. He struggles with keeping his composure and emotions in check.

You can choose to downplay it all, but it boiled to a point where the team finally took a stand and suspended him for that volatility this year. That kind of temperament is not going to sit well with all front offices, coaches or teammates. We are still trying to build this team up and establish a culture, and it would not be a great look for our locker room to have a player with a temper that can be divisive on this roster right now.

lol. "You didn't mention any issues, except for the 4 issues you mentioned"

If Dontae Johnson is guilty of the same stuff, I wonder how this board would react?

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by TheRambler:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by evil:
To name just a few :

-pregame incident when they played the Skins, had to be pulled away by coaches Are you speaking of the time when Peters and Josh Norman were jawing at each other before a game? THAT is the pregame incident you are speaking of? Yeah, it is SO uncommon for NFL players to talk trash to each other. LOL.
-blow up on the sidelines directed at Sutton vs Texans Sideline "blowups" are so irrelevant it makes me laugh. When Jerry Rice or Tom Brady blow up at a coach, they are fierce competitors. When Marcus Peters or Terrell Owens do it, they are cancers or problems and their actions have no business in the NFL. Its absolutely comical.
-Carolina incident where he punted ball in stands after causing a TO in which he is lucky that it did not cost team the game He is lucky He is lucky that a 5 yard penalty after a game winning turnover he created in deep in Carolina's own territory, didnt cost his team the game? LMFAO. OK dude.
-blew up on an assistant coach after that Jets game which factored into his 1 game suspension Says who? There are countless articles about the suspension which say that Andy Reid would not elaborate on whether or not the flag throwing or him leaving the field were the reasons he was suspended. Not a single one mentions a blowup on a coach having anything to do with the suspension.

Houston and Berry were routinely pulling him aside and getting in his ear trying to shut him up.

See my responses above. You say just to name a few, but:

a) you didnt really mention anything that is really an issue, let alone a "few"
b) when you say "just to name a few" it implies that there are more. Based on the issues you DID bring up, I find it almost impossible to believe there are more issues.

Back to my original point. The only major incident Peters has had was throwing the flag into the stands.

That Skins game also saw him berate fans with obscenities.

The punting of the ball in the Panthers game was the second week in a row he punted a ball into the stands. And his penalty pushed his team from being in range of a 40 yard fg to 45 yards, all with less than 30 seconds left. Players need to be smarter than that.

Reid would not feed the media whether his spat with a coach factored into the suspension but it probably did.

Like I said these are a few times his emotional volatility was seen. It has happened other times too with the Chiefs as well and has also happened in college and in HS. He struggles with keeping his composure and emotions in check.

You can choose to downplay it all, but it boiled to a point where the team finally took a stand and suspended him for that volatility this year. That kind of temperament is not going to sit well with all front offices, coaches or teammates. We are still trying to build this team up and establish a culture, and it would not be a great look for our locker room to have a player with a temper that can be divisive on this roster right now.

lol. "You didn't mention any issues, except for the 4 issues you mentioned"

If Dontae Johnson is guilty of the same stuff, I wonder how this board would react?

another issue which Matt Miller brought up regarding Peters in SF... when he spoke to someone from SF back in 2015 about Peters (during the draft process) they said there's no way the can bring in a bi-polar guy with connections to the Oakland streets and stick him in SF.

Love the kids talent, but if they're floating out the idea of trading him and we're talking about Reid (who can deal with a lot) then there's got to be some issues.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
another issue which Matt Miller brought up regarding Peters in SF... when he spoke to someone from SF back in 2015 about Peters (during the draft process) they said there's no way the can bring in a bi-polar guy with connections to the Oakland streets and stick him in SF.

Love the kids talent, but if they're floating out the idea of trading him and we're talking about Reid (who can deal with a lot) then there's got to be some issues.

Where did you hear that he was bi-polar?

Link?

big move.