Marcus Peters Thread

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
I think he is making fun of the way he stated it

Only one team could make the deal or win SB

Evil probably meant only one team was dealing for him at all

It's like me saying "29 out of 31 GM's didn't put in an offer for Jimmy G, that's very telling."

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:

Originally posted by evil:

30 out of 31 NFL GM's did not take that deal. Speaks volumes.

And 30 out of 31 NFL GM's didn't win the Super Bowl last year, your point being?

If you cannot see that there is a huge red flag being waved here then idk what to tell you.

Some fans can want him all they want. But fans do not have to share a locker room with him. Marcus Peters may be a great player but he is also a great headache as evidenced by his trade market.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Where did I say anything of the sort? Has nothing to do with me saying Dorsey and co. are stupid now that they are in Cleveland. LOL. Talk about putting words in my mouth.

All I said was the Browns MAY not be in the position to trade away picks for a great player who they would probably lose before the team got any good. Your condescending question about them not signing free agents because they arent going to go to the SB next year is absurd. Signing a free agent is completely different than trading draft capital to acquire a player.

You said because they're the browns they wouldn't be interested in him.

They have a million picks and money coming out their ass. They have a huge need at CB and if all they had to do was give a 4th and future 2nd to get him it's a no-brainer. BUT they didn't which leads to questions about him.

The browns have the youngest team in the league they need proven talent, just like every team.

Imo It was a horrible reach on why they wouldn't go after someone of Peters caliber unless Dorsey knows more than we do about the kid....which I would gather he does cause he drafted him

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:
Sure, it could work out either way. But giving up a 4th and a 2nd for a guy with that many accolades is never a bad risk. Especially for a team as talented as the Rams are.

I disagree. The best thing we have going for us after last year outside of Jimmy is the locker room cohesion we were able to develop. It's hard enough adding other personalities in FA and draft and adding the unknown...but if you're going to add a KNOWN locker room problem you have a lot to lose, even if that guy is talented.

Reuben is being a dumbass but at least in the locker room he was a great person to have and he meshed great with everyone we had on the roster.

You have to take that into consideration.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:
Sure, it could work out either way. But giving up a 4th and a 2nd for a guy with that many accolades is never a bad risk. Especially for a team as talented as the Rams are.

I disagree. The best thing we have going for us after last year outside of Jimmy is the locker room cohesion we were able to develop. It's hard enough adding other personalities in FA and draft and adding the unknown...but if you're going to add a KNOWN locker room problem you have a lot to lose, even if that guy is talented.

Reuben is being a dumbass but at least in the locker room he was a great person to have and he meshed great with everyone we had on the roster.

You have to take that into consideration.

Locker room cohesion is overrated in my opinion, look at the Patriots. You think everyone is best friends with and loves Tom Brady?

You want the most talented players possible that fit your system and help you win games, this isn't a popularity contest.

Originally posted by evil:
If you cannot see that there is a huge red flag being waved here then idk what to tell you.

Some fans can want him all they want. But fans do not have to share a locker room with him. Marcus Peters may be a great player but he is also a great headache as evidenced by his trade market.

So is the fact that only two GM's made offers for Jimmy G a huge red flag?

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:

Just because the majority of GMs don't do something, doesn't validate or invalidate the move.

I think it raises questions about him. If you don't think so that's fine.

Let's not pretend like he doesn't have issues and the chiefs just moved on from a DROY, who they could have had for 3 more yrs without making a LT commitment.

Those are all red flags pretty simple and that's all I've been saying.

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:
So is the fact that only two GM's made offers for Jimmy G a huge red flag?

Peters is more of a "proven commodity". He's played for three years. Teams have a better idea of what he can or can't do. Not the case with Garopplo.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:
Just because the majority of GMs don't do something, doesn't validate or invalidate the move.

I think it raises questions about him. If you don't think so that's fine.

Let's not pretend like he doesn't have issues and the chiefs just moved on from a DROY, who they could have had for 3 more yrs without making a LT commitment.

Those are all red flags pretty simple and that's all I've been saying.

I've never once said he doesn't have issues associated with acquiring him, I've only said that it's a good move and relatively low risk for the Rams.

Was the Charles Haley trade a huge mistake for the Cowboys?

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

I think he is making fun of the way he stated it

Only one team could make the deal or win SB

Evil probably meant only one team was dealing for him at all

It's like me saying "29 out of 31 GM's didn't put in an offer for Jimmy G, that's very telling."

It's actually not the same because there's never been any character issues ever about JG and there was reportly teams trying to trade for him his time last yr.

If jimmy G had the same character issues and only one team looking at trading for him then yeah I'd be saying the same thing.

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:

Originally posted by evil:

If you cannot see that there is a huge red flag being waved here then idk what to tell you.

Some fans can want him all they want. But fans do not have to share a locker room with him. Marcus Peters may be a great player but he is also a great headache as evidenced by his trade market.

So is the fact that only two GM's made offers for Jimmy G a huge red flag?

Only one team reportedly made an offer for Jimmy, and that was Cleveland. SF inquired if Jimmy was available but never made an offer.

We do not know if other teams inquired as it was never reported or leaked. Possible other teams chose not to try after learning Cleveland made a big time offer that was rebuffed.

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:
Just because the majority of GMs don't do something, doesn't validate or invalidate the move.

I think it raises questions about him. If you don't think so that's fine.

Let's not pretend like he doesn't have issues and the chiefs just moved on from a DROY, who they could have had for 3 more yrs without making a LT commitment.

Those are all red flags pretty simple and that's all I've been saying.

I've never once said he doesn't have issues associated with acquiring him, I've only said that it's a good move and relatively low risk for the Rams.

Was the Charles Haley trade a huge mistake for the Cowboys?

Haley never let his issues effect his play on the field....

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:

I've never once said he doesn't have issues associated with acquiring him, I've only said that it's a good move and relatively low risk for the Rams.

Was the Charles Haley trade a huge mistake for the Cowboys?

If Haley was playing in today's game he would have been out of league...different time period.

Dude all I've argued with you is that he's got red flags and I've proved multiple examples. Good young player that a team didn't want, kicked out of college, NO teams wanted him in trade talks etc...

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:

Originally posted by evil:
If you cannot see that there is a huge red flag being waved here then idk what to tell you.

Some fans can want him all they want. But fans do not have to share a locker room with him. Marcus Peters may be a great player but he is also a great headache as evidenced by his trade market.

So is the fact that only two GM's made offers for Jimmy G a huge red flag?

Only one team reportedly made an offer for Jimmy, and that was Cleveland. SF inquired if Jimmy was available but never made an offer.

We do not know if other teams inquired as it was never reported or leaked. Possible other teams chose not to try after learning Cleveland made a big time offer that was rebuffed.

You didn't answer my question, but I can't say I'm surprised.

You could literally say the same thing about Peters, your argument is extremely flawed.

He's a good player, the Rams got him for a good deal and didn't give up a lot to do it. End of story.

Originally posted by evil:

Only one team reportedly made an offer for Jimmy, and that was Cleveland. SF inquired if Jimmy was available but never made an offer.

We do not know if other teams inquired as it was never reported or leaked. Possible other teams chose not to try after learning Cleveland made a big time offer that was rebuffed.

Also Kyle stated they asked Bill about him during the combine and immediately got shot down, same could have been said for other teams we don't know...bill then called us about trading for Jimmy, if teams actually knew he was available you bet your ass there would have been options.

It was reported that Peters was looking at getting moved for months, after they got fuller they tried finding a trade partner and only got the Rams.