Marcus Peters Thread

You guys ever stop and think that Reid didnt want to trade him to a team in the AFC like Belicheat didnt want to trade JG to any team in the AFC.

In all honesty what has peters done off the field that has gotten him in trouble?

Has he been arrested for having a pound of weed? Arrested for DV? Oh yeah thats our 1st round pick from last year.

Only issues ive seen with peters has been on field stuff.

So im sorry if im not seeing any red flags with this kid.

Only red flags we gonna be seeing is the Red Challenge flag from Shanny when Peters picks off a jimmy g pass to make sure it really was intercepted

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:

Originally posted by evil:

If you cannot see that there is a huge red flag being waved here then idk what to tell you.

Some fans can want him all they want. But fans do not have to share a locker room with him. Marcus Peters may be a great player but he is also a great headache as evidenced by his trade market.

So is the fact that only two GM's made offers for Jimmy G a huge red flag?

Only one team reportedly made an offer for Jimmy, and that was Cleveland. SF inquired if Jimmy was available but never made an offer.

We do not know if other teams inquired as it was never reported or leaked. Possible other teams chose not to try after learning Cleveland made a big time offer that was rebuffed.

You didn't answer my question, but I can't say I'm surprised.

You could literally say the same thing about Peters, your argument is extremely flawed.

He's a good player, the Rams got him for a good deal and didn't give up a lot to do it. End of story.

Co-sign 100%

Not surprising in this thread, still the same posters trying to defend Baalke's huge f**k-up instead of just accepting that the trade a rival made was good value for a relatively-maligned player who requested a trade after the Titans game and clearly wasn't happy in Kansas City.

Got fed up with Andy Reid's s**tty playoff coaching.

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:
Locker room cohesion is overrated in my opinion, look at the Patriots. You think everyone is best friends with and loves Tom Brady?

You want the most talented players possible that fit your system and help you win games, this isn't a popularity contest.

lol did you seriously use the Pats as a sign of a weak locker room?

You may hate Tom Brady but I assure you he's HIGHLY respected in that locker room and any locker room issues are squashed quickly or booted out for peanuts. Look at Jamie Collins trade.

If anything Bill Belichick has started to go with not enough talent trying to bring in hard working guys who buy into the system.

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:

Not surprising in this thread, still the same posters trying to defend Baalke's huge f**k-up instead of just accepting that the trade a rival made was good value for a relatively-maligned player who requested a trade after the Titans game and clearly wasn't happy in Kansas City.

What? Who cares about Baalke. What I've been saying is the dude has red flags and it's even more obvious that a talent like that got moved for not a ton of capital after only being in KC for 3 yrs.

There's issues there without question

Originally posted by DRnSFw:
You guys ever stop and think that Reid didnt want to trade him to a team in the AFC like Belicheat didnt want to trade JG to any team in the AFC.

In all honesty what has peters done off the field that has gotten him in trouble?

Has he been arrested for having a pound of weed? Arrested for DV? Oh yeah thats our 1st round pick from last year.

Only issues ive seen with peters has been on field stuff.

So im sorry if im not seeing any red flags with this kid.

Only red flags we gonna be seeing is the Red Challenge flag from Shanny when Peters picks off a jimmy g pass to make sure it really was intercepted

From an earlier KC source I noted, there was a lot of "Monday through Saturday" stuff that had been going on and the Chiefs were not willing to put up with it anymore.

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:

Originally posted by evil:
If you cannot see that there is a huge red flag being waved here then idk what to tell you.

Some fans can want him all they want. But fans do not have to share a locker room with him. Marcus Peters may be a great player but he is also a great headache as evidenced by his trade market.

So is the fact that only two GM's made offers for Jimmy G a huge red flag?

Lol seriously dude? You're reaching hard as hell.

The Pats called the 49ers. They had several other offers for Jimmy before last year's draft but after the Pats kept telling everyone to fuk off every team with a QB need figured Jimmy wasn't for sale...including the 49ers.

Which is why the Pats called us and the deal was done in 10 minutes.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:
Locker room cohesion is overrated in my opinion, look at the Patriots. You think everyone is best friends with and loves Tom Brady?

You want the most talented players possible that fit your system and help you win games, this isn't a popularity contest.

lol did you seriously use the Pats as a sign of a weak locker room?

You may hate Tom Brady but I assure you he's HIGHLY respected in that locker room and any locker room issues are squashed quickly or booted out for peanuts. Look at Jamie Collins trade.

If anything Bill Belichick has started to go with not enough talent trying to bring in hard working guys who buy into the system.

This is a joke, right?

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page/hotread180105/beginning-end-new-england-patriots-robert-kraft-tom-brady-bill-belichick-internal-power-struggle

Originally posted by DRnSFw:

You guys ever stop and think that Reid didnt want to trade him to a team in the AFC like Belicheat didnt want to trade JG to any team in the AFC.

In all honesty what has peters done off the field that has gotten him in trouble?

Has he been arrested for having a pound of weed? Arrested for DV? Oh yeah thats our 1st round pick from last year.

Only issues ive seen with peters has been on field stuff.

So im sorry if im not seeing any red flags with this kid.

Only red flags we gonna be seeing is the Red Challenge flag from Shanny when Peters picks off a jimmy g pass to make sure it really was intercepted

There are reports that Veach reached out to the Browns and Colts to gauge interest in Peters so there goes your theory.

Peters flags are not off the field but on the field and in the locker room.

Originally posted by DRnSFw:

You guys ever stop and think that Reid didnt want to trade him to a team in the AFC like Belicheat didnt want to trade JG to any team in the AFC.

In all honesty what has peters done off the field that has gotten him in trouble?

Has he been arrested for having a pound of weed? Arrested for DV? Oh yeah thats our 1st round pick from last year.

Only issues ive seen with peters has been on field stuff.

So im sorry if im not seeing any red flags with this kid.

Only red flags we gonna be seeing is the Red Challenge flag from Shanny when Peters picks off a jimmy g pass to make sure it really was intercepted

I'm sure everything was just peachy in KC that's why they traded him lol

Originally posted by dj43:
A 4th this year and a 2nd next year. WOW!

I am surprised. The Chiefs need a lot of help, especially on defense. I thought they would at least get the 2nd this year.

It is looking more and more like they are going into full re-build mode and this was the best they could get for a guy that was definitely not in their future plans.

I'm not. Fans dramatically overvalue non-QB trade comp.

Non-QBs just aren't nearly as valuable. You can count non-QBs who would could fetch a 1st round pick on one hand.

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:
This is a joke, right?

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page/hotread180105/beginning-end-new-england-patriots-robert-kraft-tom-brady-bill-belichick-internal-power-struggle

What is that supposed to show me? If anything the players would be down on Belichick and not Brady.

Any video you watch of the Patriots everyone raves about Brady as a leader and teammate...not so much Poppa Belichick.

If you're trying to pretend the Pats have plenty of locker room cancers...and Tom Brady is one of them then talking to you is just a waste of time.

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:

This is a joke, right?

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page/hotread180105/beginning-end-new-england-patriots-robert-kraft-tom-brady-bill-belichick-internal-power-struggle

Which some of that story has been debunked..even JG Said the s**t about him in there wasn't true.

I love how the GM of a NFL team that went to the playoffs last year and has the makings of an extremely solid team going forward traded for a young, cost-controlled CB that could possibly end up a future HOFer without giving up anything substantial value-wise, yet I'm the crazy one for saying it's a good move for that team.

Never change, WZ.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:
This is a joke, right?

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page/hotread180105/beginning-end-new-england-patriots-robert-kraft-tom-brady-bill-belichick-internal-power-struggle

What is that supposed to show me? If anything the players would be down on Belichick and not Brady.

Any video you watch of the Patriots everyone raves about Brady as a leader and teammate...not so much Poppa Belichick.

If you're trying to pretend the Pats have plenty of locker room cancers...and Tom Brady is one of them then talking to you is just a waste of time.

Read the article, then get back to me. I never said he's a cancer at all, just that their locker room chemistry clearly isn't the best and it hasn't been an issue for them.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I absolutely did NOT say that. I questioned because of the fact they are an 0 and 16 team, if it would be smart to trade away draft capital for a player who likely wont be there by the time they get good. Go back and reread my post if you like. When someone uses a question mark, they are not declaring anything. You are absolutely wrong about me saying because they are the Browns, they wouldnt be interested.

It was a question, and a very legitimate one. You call my question a horrible reach, yet you making a definitive claim based on nothing other than speculation is acceptable?

Why wouldn't he be there in three yrs? They have money, 5th yr option, plus tags... technically they could control his rights for 4 more yrs (two tags)

Sorry if I misunderstood your comment but that's how I read it..my bad.

Imo Every single team in the league could use a player to the caliber of peters and the fact no other team even made a play is kinda crazy...if you don't feel like it's a red flag on him that's fine

Funny thing is, I have been arguing with people for weeks saying this exact reason is the reason the Chiefs shouldnt trade him. There have been plenty of articles/tweets talking about "if Peters wont re-sign long term, trade him for what you can get" line of reasoning. Again, who cares if he isnt gonna sign long term. The Chiefs had him under control for the next 4 years if they chose to use tags.

4 years of Peters > what that 2nd round pick turns out to be IMO

You seem to be overly focused on the other teams. All those other teams are in need of cornerbacks? All of those teams feel that Peters is a piece missing from being a contender? All of those other teams could afford what would essentially be a 4/$45M contract? All of those teams think trading draft capital for a players like Peters is better for the team that keeping the draft capital and trying to sign a top FA CB like Kyle Fuller? All of those teams even knew that Peters was available for trade?

There are countless reasons a team wouldnt want to trade for Peters. You claiming its some sort of red flag is no different than me claiming it isnt. I would in fact argue that you claiming its a red flag is even more of a reach than me saying it isnt, as you have absolutely no idea the reasoning that teams didnt throw out an offer. Your point of view is assumption on assumption on assumption.