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Hardcoreniner559
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Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
These guys are one tough loss away from imploding. Your really gunna put talib, suh, and Peters on the same team and expect it to be cohesive and smooth? The team will either win 12 games or implode midway through the season and go like 8-8 or 9-
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I agree but mainly because suh and peters seem to have really bad team attitudes while talib seems like a in game talker
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Hardcoreniner559
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Also if we start abusing there lbs with swing passes to our speedy rbs and make them miss tackles they will catch a lot of heat and if there lbs where to get hurt it would be even worse watching there ps level guys out there lol
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Buchy
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So much bloody stupid in these last few pages because they signed Suh.
Yes he's a very good player but what would we have done with him? He's disruptive and a bad locker room guy, are we going to sit Thomas for him or Buckner or Day? Yeah at this stage he's better than Day and Thomas but those guys are young and why disrupt their growth and potential for a one year rental mercenary?
Peter's and Talib are both headcases as well, they gave up a draft pick for one and paid a fortune to the other. Just wait until there are blown assignments or something doesn't go their way, that defensive room might just end up as a collection of individuals.
Even if they all ball out, what would you have us do? We went after Talib but he didn't want to come here, no way is Peters worth what they gave up for him and Suh hasn't been the same force for a few seasons, he's still very good but he's ageing and he wasn't even released until after the first wave of FA.
b***hing that Lynch has done nothing when we've signed scheme fit players, either on prove it deals or paid out for the guys we value to the scheme, is just plain wrong and stupid.
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pdizo916
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Originally posted by jeepzilla:
Not directed at you pdizo916, but these overused terms:
We are Building the team the right way.
We are 2 years away yet.
Wtf
The nfl changes constantly. The rams could go to the Sb this year. Or not. If they do well in 2018, they could restructure and rework contracts. Lose some pieces, gain some pieces. Just like the pats, Steelers, and other teams do. Sometimes it works longer, sometimes it doesn't, look at the 49ers short run or the Seahawks. A couple of different moves and they would still be the top team to knock off.
The falcons seem to have pretty consistent success, so does that mean they are doing it the right way? Or the panthers? How about the chiefs? Philly just did it by being active in FA last year. It worked out. Now they are losing pieces and adding pieces and are still looked at as contenders. Are they in cap hell now? Or the Vikings? Huge players in FA and the Jags were huge players in FA Also..
Big surprise I know, but all of those teams are fielding a team for 2018 and guess what, they All are "suppose" to be very competitive. Will they be? We don't know yet. But they are trying.
You need to constantly work on building a powerhouse team. This sitting back and being "patient" is a b******t loser mentality.
There is so much turnover every year and injuries, that can not be planned for.
There were pieces the 49ers could have added (don't give me the same b******t response.. WHO?) there were pieces to be added. And we didn't add some pieces, and yet some justify it by saying to hold onto the money. Why?
We should have Filled more holes. Make the team better.
The rams are filling holes. No one knows yet if it will work out or not. But they are at least trying to fill some holes. I commend them for that.
I get it...i get it. But they were dormant in FA in 2016 and 2017, for the most part. The reason being was that they were not ready to compete. You got to be patience and tactful when approaching Free Agency.
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Baldie
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Originally posted by Buchy:
So much bloody stupid in these last few pages because they signed Suh.
Yes he's a very good player but what would we have done with him? He's disruptive and a bad locker room guy, are we going to sit Thomas for him or Buckner or Day? Yeah at this stage he's better than Day and Thomas but those guys are young and why disrupt their growth and potential for a one year rental mercenary?
Peter's and Talib are both headcases as well, they gave up a draft pick for one and paid a fortune to the other. Just wait until there are blown assignments or something doesn't go their way, that defensive room might just end up as a collection of individuals.
Even if they all ball out, what would you have us do? We went after Talib but he didn't want to come here, no way is Peters worth what they gave up for him and Suh hasn't been the same force for a few seasons, he's still very good but he's ageing and he wasn't even released until after the first wave of FA.
b***hing that Lynch has done nothing when we've signed scheme fit players, either on prove it deals or paid out for the guys we value to the scheme, is just plain wrong and stupid.
Yeah agreed. I would be nice to have someone like Suh but not at the cost of his attitude and pricetag. How many times has a team loaded up on big time FA's and gone on to win the SB the next year? On paper, the Rams should be guaranteed a SB but then you have to say the same for the Vikings and Eagles. The Rams have done nothing to bolster their offense either, in fact, they lost Watkins and have not replaced him. Gurley is going to have to carry the load again on offense unless they somehow trade for OBJ, at least that's the rumor mill.
The Rams did what the Jags did last year by loading up on the D and look what Shanny/Jimmy did to the Jags. I still like our chances while not breaking the bank.
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Sanfran_chrisco
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Rams are now officially better than us. f**k!
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Baldie
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Shanny will probably be moving the pocket a lot in the 2 games they play each other and Mckinnon will have huge catch games along with Taylor.
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Baldie
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Originally posted by defenderDX:
Rams are now officially better than us. f**k!
On paper...lets see how they do on the field. Remember the SF vs Jags game?
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Baldie
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Originally posted by Scottie15:
1.) Extended Goodwin, Coyle, Marsh and Gilliam? Those dudes, with the exception of Goodwin, are depth players. Goodwin is a great deep threat but isn't a factor in the redzone. He's a one-dimensional speedster.
2.) Love the Richburg and McKinnon signings. Cooper is a bust and Attaochu can't stay fit enough to play
3.) Garnett War and Armstead suck.
4.) Wilson is the best QB in the division until proven otherwise
5.) Headcases? Based off of what exactly? Are the criminals? One thing is for sure: they are all-pro bonafide studs. Besides, we've got our own wife-beating pothead headache that we wasted a 1st round pick on.
6.) Alienating their best defensive player is nonsense and pure speculation with nothing to support that claim.
5.) Our off-season was not more productive than their's no matter which way you spin it.
They got 2 stud CBs, a stud 5x Pro Bowler DT, extended Robey-Coleman, signed additional CB depth in Shields. They're lacking on the offensive side of the ball, but they can also make up for that during the draft.
We can downplay their offseason all we want but they downright clowned on the Niners in FA. They did have a head start as it seems they've been rebuilding for some time, but they will be taking the division for the next 2 years guaranteed.
We'll see about that. Their roster on paper says they should be guaranteed a SB but tell me how many times a team has loaded up on FA's and gone on to win a SB. They need to stay healthy and their head-cases need to mesh. I can see that D though becoming s**t-talkers like the Seattle D was during their prime.
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genus49
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Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
These guys are one tough loss away from imploding. Your really gunna put talib, suh, and Peters on the same team and expect it to be cohesive and smooth? The team will either win 12 games or implode midway through the season and go like 8-8 or 9-
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Came in here to post something similar.
Especially if they start slow and end up losing their first couple of games...wheels can come off real quick.
Expectations through the roof, lots of volatile personalities anda super young HC. They better hope the schedule makers are kind to them.
I'm hoping we get an easy game week 1 to keep the Jimmy G don't lose momentum going(i know he'll lose eventually but would be great to start on a W to keep the mystique alive into the new season) but would love to go into the Rams house week 2 and hand then a loss.
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a49erfan77
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Fact is the Rams offense is what let them down in games vs quality opponents last year. They only scored 13 pts against the Falcons in the playoffs. Yet here they are building up their defense, while the offense gets worse.
I had some catching up to do, as I haven't read the thread since page thirty-eight (38). Beyond the
usual pessimism of certain posters … valid arguing points have been presented from both camps.
This is an excerpt from a post I made earlier on the WZ FB page:
"IMO, their off-season moves suggest they are in the win now mode … while their SB
window is clearly open. Will they be a force in the NFCW, it's highly probable ?!
That stated, I'll leave a little something I found, which I find rings true … yet is quite amusing ;D
I don't think anyone on this board can argue that on paper the lambs are the most talented team in this division. Does that mean they will win the division? I don't know. Jimmy G has played great and I can see him playing well against their defense. I just don't think we have enough playmakers on both sides to win the division. Not including the Sherman signing which I loved, a lot of our signings have been good but we have definitely overpaid for most of these signings. We need one more major playmaker/game changer in order to compete with the lambs. That player is not available thru free agency. Draft Day Trade????
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a49erfan77
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Originally posted by Jaden:
I don't think anyone on this board can argue that on paper the lambs are the most talented team in this division. Does that mean they will win the division? I don't know. Jimmy G has played great and I can see him playing well against their defense. I just don't think we have enough playmakers on both sides to win the division. Not including the Sherman signing which I loved, a lot of our signings have been good but we have definitely overpaid for most of these signings. We need one more major playmaker/game changer in order to compete with the lambs. That player is not available thru free agency. Draft Day Trade????
You do realize there are play makers/game changers in the draft, right?
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SoCold
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Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Fact is the Rams offense is what let them down in games vs quality opponents last year. They only scored 13 pts against the Falcons in the playoffs. Yet here they are building up their defense, while the offense gets worse.
Rams had a good shot to beat Atlanta. Can't spot a good team 10 points off of ST turnovers tho.