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Jan 16, 2019 at 10:49 AM
Originally posted by okdkid:

You extend him now before he gets VERY expensive.
Jan 16, 2019 at 10:56 AM
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by okdkid:

You extend him now before he gets VERY expensive.

that way if he gets even better he can be bitter towards the team and his contract later
win-win
Jan 16, 2019 at 11:19 AM
Originally posted by RonMexico:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by okdkid:

You extend him now before he gets VERY expensive.

that way if he gets even better he can be bitter towards the team and his contract later
win-win

Then you can restructure him later. Paraag is the best contract guy in the NFL. Let him do his thing. He knows how to move the money around to maximize the cap health.

I don't see Buckner as the type of guy who will agree to a big money deal and then hold out when someone else gets a better one.
Jan 16, 2019 at 11:20 AM
  • okdkid
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Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by okdkid:

You extend him now before he gets VERY expensive.

Sure, if he does a team friendly deal absolutely. Niners give up multiple years of control but have cost certainty, Buckner gets money now. Win win.
Jan 16, 2019 at 11:21 AM
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by RonMexico:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by okdkid:

You extend him now before he gets VERY expensive.

that way if he gets even better he can be bitter towards the team and his contract later
win-win

Then you can restructure him later. Paraag is the best contract guy in the NFL. Let him do his thing. He knows how to move the money around to maximize the cap health.

I don't see Buckner as the type of guy who will agree to a big money deal and then hold out when someone else gets a better one.

4serious, I agree with all this. Pay the man
Jan 16, 2019 at 11:57 AM
The reason for extending players you have identified as core/studs early is by taking care of them early and often you get to avoid the mega contracts and you keep a happy and content player, IE Joe Staley model. Now obviously some players are still going to be greedy, but players getting what they feel they deserve without having to try to force getting what they feel they deserve will ALWAYS be more loyal to the company than the other.
Jan 16, 2019 at 12:03 PM
  • thl408
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Give him Fletcher Cox money. Debatable whether he is as good as Cox, but inflation happens. DeFo is a cornerstone player that a team never has to worry about acting up on or off the field.
Jan 16, 2019 at 12:09 PM
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by RonMexico:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by okdkid:

You extend him now before he gets VERY expensive.

that way if he gets even better he can be bitter towards the team and his contract later
win-win

Then you can restructure him later. Paraag is the best contract guy in the NFL. Let him do his thing. He knows how to move the money around to maximize the cap health.

I don't see Buckner as the type of guy who will agree to a big money deal and then hold out when someone else gets a better one.

Lol
We constantly are a losing team that signs mid level free agents and are consistently one of the top teams with the most salary caps while other teams seem to win consistently and still have money to bring in FA's.
Seems to me other teams have just as good or better "contract guys"..

I'm not sure why this is stated all the time..
Jan 17, 2019 at 10:38 AM
Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by RonMexico:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by okdkid:

You extend him now before he gets VERY expensive.

that way if he gets even better he can be bitter towards the team and his contract later
win-win

Then you can restructure him later. Paraag is the best contract guy in the NFL. Let him do his thing. He knows how to move the money around to maximize the cap health.

I don't see Buckner as the type of guy who will agree to a big money deal and then hold out when someone else gets a better one.

Lol
We constantly are a losing team that signs mid level free agents and are consistently one of the top teams with the most salary caps while other teams seem to win consistently and still have money to bring in FA's.
Seems to me other teams have just as good or better "contract guys"..

I'm not sure why this is stated all the time..

Paraag isnt a scout, hes a contract guy. His job is to manage the teams contracts and payroll. Whether or not the players we sign are worth the money isnt his responsibility. His job is to make sure we don't spend irresponsibly. We're consistently a top 3 cap health team.
Jan 17, 2019 at 12:35 PM
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by okdkid:

You extend him now before he gets VERY expensive.

That's been our MO over the last 10 years and it just doesn't seem to workout. The best deal that I can remember was Joe Staley. I can't think of anyone besides that. I think when it comes to football in general, there is more downside to paying too much too fast than there is waiting.

P.S. I'm not saying let him hit free agency, I just think we should really negotiate until the last year.
[ Edited by Oakland-Niner on Jan 17, 2019 at 1:03 PM ]
Jan 17, 2019 at 12:37 PM
Good for DeFo, he deserves it.
Jan 17, 2019 at 1:48 PM
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by RonMexico:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by okdkid:

You extend him now before he gets VERY expensive.

that way if he gets even better he can be bitter towards the team and his contract later
win-win

Then you can restructure him later. Paraag is the best contract guy in the NFL. Let him do his thing. He knows how to move the money around to maximize the cap health.

I don't see Buckner as the type of guy who will agree to a big money deal and then hold out when someone else gets a better one.

Lol
We constantly are a losing team that signs mid level free agents and are consistently one of the top teams with the most salary caps while other teams seem to win consistently and still have money to bring in FA's.
Seems to me other teams have just as good or better "contract guys"..

I'm not sure why this is stated all the time..

Paraag isnt a scout, hes a contract guy. His job is to manage the teams contracts and payroll. Whether or not the players we sign are worth the money isnt his responsibility. His job is to make sure we don't spend irresponsibly. We're consistently a top 3 cap health team.

We hoard our Cap.
Not hard to manage a cap when you don't spend it.

I really don't understand the praise he gets, but go ahead.
Jan 17, 2019 at 1:58 PM
Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by RonMexico:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by okdkid:

You extend him now before he gets VERY expensive.

that way if he gets even better he can be bitter towards the team and his contract later
win-win

Then you can restructure him later. Paraag is the best contract guy in the NFL. Let him do his thing. He knows how to move the money around to maximize the cap health.

I don't see Buckner as the type of guy who will agree to a big money deal and then hold out when someone else gets a better one.

Lol
We constantly are a losing team that signs mid level free agents and are consistently one of the top teams with the most salary caps while other teams seem to win consistently and still have money to bring in FA's.
Seems to me other teams have just as good or better "contract guys"..

I'm not sure why this is stated all the time..

Paraag isnt a scout, hes a contract guy. His job is to manage the teams contracts and payroll. Whether or not the players we sign are worth the money isnt his responsibility. His job is to make sure we don't spend irresponsibly. We're consistently a top 3 cap health team.

We hoard our Cap.
Not hard to manage a cap when you don't spend it.

I really don't understand the praise he gets, but go ahead.

This and the record accurately reflects the spending and cap room. The team sucks because it lacks talent.
Jan 17, 2019 at 2:11 PM
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by RonMexico:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by okdkid:

You extend him now before he gets VERY expensive.

that way if he gets even better he can be bitter towards the team and his contract later
win-win

Then you can restructure him later. Paraag is the best contract guy in the NFL. Let him do his thing. He knows how to move the money around to maximize the cap health.

I don't see Buckner as the type of guy who will agree to a big money deal and then hold out when someone else gets a better one.

Lol
We constantly are a losing team that signs mid level free agents and are consistently one of the top teams with the most salary caps while other teams seem to win consistently and still have money to bring in FA's.
Seems to me other teams have just as good or better "contract guys"..

I'm not sure why this is stated all the time..

Paraag isnt a scout, hes a contract guy. His job is to manage the teams contracts and payroll. Whether or not the players we sign are worth the money isnt his responsibility. His job is to make sure we don't spend irresponsibly. We're consistently a top 3 cap health team.

We hoard our Cap.
Not hard to manage a cap when you don't spend it.

I really don't understand the praise he gets, but go ahead.

This and the record accurately reflects the spending and cap room. The team sucks because it lacks talent.

We gave McKinnon and Richburg some of the richest contracts at their positions (although we can basically cut McKinnon this year with almost no hit the way his contract is structured), signed Richard Sherman to an extremely team friendly deal, gave our QB $100 mill.

How much do you expect them to spend in one off season? We suck because our drafts have sucked for 4 years not because we're not signing enough players.
Jan 17, 2019 at 2:16 PM
Originally posted by IT21:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by RonMexico:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by okdkid:

You extend him now before he gets VERY expensive.

that way if he gets even better he can be bitter towards the team and his contract later
win-win

Then you can restructure him later. Paraag is the best contract guy in the NFL. Let him do his thing. He knows how to move the money around to maximize the cap health.

I don't see Buckner as the type of guy who will agree to a big money deal and then hold out when someone else gets a better one.

Lol
We constantly are a losing team that signs mid level free agents and are consistently one of the top teams with the most salary caps while other teams seem to win consistently and still have money to bring in FA's.
Seems to me other teams have just as good or better "contract guys"..

I'm not sure why this is stated all the time..

Paraag isnt a scout, hes a contract guy. His job is to manage the teams contracts and payroll. Whether or not the players we sign are worth the money isnt his responsibility. His job is to make sure we don't spend irresponsibly. We're consistently a top 3 cap health team.

We hoard our Cap.
Not hard to manage a cap when you don't spend it.

I really don't understand the praise he gets, but go ahead.

This and the record accurately reflects the spending and cap room. The team sucks because it lacks talent.

We gave McKinnon and Richburg some of the richest contracts at their positions (although we can basically cut McKinnon this year with almost no hit the way his contract is structured), signed Richard Sherman to an extremely team friendly deal, gave our QB $100 mill.

How much do you expect them to spend in one off season? We suck because our drafts have sucked for 4 years not because we're not signing enough players.

What I want is irrelevant. I was just pointing out that our cap situation accurately reflects the talent on the roster. We spend less than most teams and our record reflects that. Drafting like s**t also hurts but it saves us cap room because we don't have to spend a lot of money to retain our free agents.
We do not have enough good players whether they are drafted or signed as FAs.
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