DeForest Buckner Traded to the Colts

Originally posted by philosoraptor:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by bopicksix:

Originally posted by walker807:

The biggest opportunity for improvement is to lock up DeFo long term so we dont lose one of the best interior lineman in all of the NFL.

Yea he was a very good player and for that we are grateful. Very good player on a very bad team, and we are unwavering in our desire to become a great team..this front office has made it clear that they are always looking to upgrade every position on the roster and is willing to make the bold move when the opportunity is right. Your my boy buck! But you gotta go.

Why does he have to go?

Trading your best player away and creating a huge hole that has to be filled is a dumb way to try to become good.

Lol right. We should just trade Kittle, mcglinchey, and all the up and coming players on the roster away while we are at it.

Those would be bold moves. They gotta go!

Originally posted by philosoraptor:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by bopicksix:

Originally posted by walker807:
The biggest opportunity for improvement is to lock up DeFo long term so we dont lose one of the best interior lineman in all of the NFL.

Yea he was a very good player and for that we are grateful. Very good player on a very bad team, and we are unwavering in our desire to become a great team..this front office has made it clear that they are always looking to upgrade every position on the roster and is willing to make the bold move when the opportunity is right. Your my boy buck! But you gotta go.

Why does he have to go?

Trading your best player away and creating a huge hole that has to be filled is a dumb way to try to become good.

Lol right. We should just trade Kittle, mcglinchey, and all the up and coming players on the roster away while we are at it.

bopicksix didn't come out and say to trade DeFo out of nowhere. It was with the premise that QWilliams would be drafted at #2 overall. I'm being open minded for discussion sake. It makes some sense that if the team drafts QWilliams, that there is an abundance of DT talent on the team. Trading DeFo means getting a good return back - two first rounders? So you get two 1st rounders, and not having to make him (one of) the highest paid DT.

I would never do it because bird in hand worth two in the bushes, or whatever. Lynch would be crazy to get rid of the one proven, durable guy that no one has to worry about off the field. But it's an interesting hypothetical if QW is the guy at #2 overall.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by bopicksix:

Originally posted by walker807:

The biggest opportunity for improvement is to lock up DeFo long term so we dont lose one of the best interior lineman in all of the NFL.

Yea he was a very good player and for that we are grateful. Very good player on a very bad team, and we are unwavering in our desire to become a great team..this front office has made it clear that they are always looking to upgrade every position on the roster and is willing to make the bold move when the opportunity is right. Your my boy buck! But you gotta go.

Why does he have to go?

Trading your best player away and creating a huge hole that has to be filled is a dumb way to try to become good.

This is so rich. Lol. Jameson and Webzone usually don't mix.

Originally posted by Dsoto87:
Welcome to my block list. I'm forever grateful to whoever finally implemented this feature so that we don't have to waste our time reading "hot takes" like this.

+1

Originally posted by susweel:

If the deal was for obj for buck straight up I would have considered making the trade. If the giants wanted more then no. Buck is good but Obj is probably the best wr in the game if used correctly.

Originally posted by Cutitoff:

Originally posted by susweel:
If the deal was for obj for buck straight up I would have considered making the trade. If the giants wanted more then no. Buck is good but Obj is probably the best wr in the game if used correctly.

I mean I don't necessarily agree. But it's not like this is a hot take. It was widely reported the Niners included Buckner in their offer for Mack.

There is a proverb about a foolish person tearing down his or her own house brick by brick.

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by Cutitoff:

Originally posted by susweel:

If the deal was for obj for buck straight up I would have considered making the trade. If the giants wanted more then no. Buck is good but Obj is probably the best wr in the game if used correctly.

I mean I don't necessarily agree. But it's not like this is a hot take. It was widely reported the Niners included Buckner in their offer for Mack.

It would have been totally dumb but not surprising.

Originally posted by okdkid:

I mean I don't necessarily agree. But it's not like this is a hot take. It was widely reported the Niners included Buckner in their offer for Mack.

Or did the Raiders demand Buckner?

Originally posted by WestCoastForever:

Originally posted by okdkid:

I mean I don't necessarily agree. But it's not like this is a hot take. It was widely reported the Niners included Buckner in their offer for Mack.

Or did the Raiders demand Buckner?

Yes, I didn't hear any mention that the Niners had made an offer which included Buckner.

Originally posted by okdkid:
I mean I don't necessarily agree. But it's not like this is a hot take. It was widely reported the Niners included Buckner in their offer for Mack.

What? It was widely reported the Niners included Buckner in their offer for Mack? I must have missed something...where did you hear this? I live in the Bay Area and not once did I hear anything about a Niners offer for Mack that included Buckner. I've only heard all along about the vision of having Buckner & Mack in this D and causing havoc together.

If I was him or his agent, I wouldn't sign anything. He knows Paraag and Lynch are cheap and will try to con him.

Should just play the next year, and hope for 12-15 sacks with a better edge presence. This dude wants to be the top paid defensive player.

Originally posted by Ensatsu:
If I was him or his agent, I wouldn't sign anything. He knows Paraag and Lynch are cheap and will try to con him.

Should just play the next year, and hope for 12-15 sacks with a better edge presence. This dude wants to be the top paid defensive player.

That would be a good mood. Sign next year depending on who we draft. If we draft DL help, then he should wait and bring his numbers up. If we don't draft a DL, he should sign now.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by philosoraptor:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by bopicksix:

Originally posted by walker807:
The biggest opportunity for improvement is to lock up DeFo long term so we dont lose one of the best interior lineman in all of the NFL.

Yea he was a very good player and for that we are grateful. Very good player on a very bad team, and we are unwavering in our desire to become a great team..this front office has made it clear that they are always looking to upgrade every position on the roster and is willing to make the bold move when the opportunity is right. Your my boy buck! But you gotta go.

Why does he have to go?

Trading your best player away and creating a huge hole that has to be filled is a dumb way to try to become good.

Lol right. We should just trade Kittle, mcglinchey, and all the up and coming players on the roster away while we are at it.

bopicksix didn't come out and say to trade DeFo out of nowhere. It was with the premise that QWilliams would be drafted at #2 overall. I'm being open minded for discussion sake. It makes some sense that if the team drafts QWilliams, that there is an abundance of DT talent on the team. Trading DeFo means getting a good return back - two first rounders? So you get two 1st rounders, and not having to make him (one of) the highest paid DT.

I would never do it because bird in hand worth two in the bushes, or whatever. Lynch would be crazy to get rid of the one proven, durable guy that no one has to worry about off the field. But it's an interesting hypothetical if QW is the guy at #2 overall.

Seems like we have bigger fish to fry than taking a player at a position of strength just so that we can trade that strength to another team for picks when we have so many other holes on the team. I know they did something similar last year when drafting McGlinchey, but not really since Brown wasn't remotely a fit for what we required of him. As witnessed by last season, Defo balls out in this defense and fits well. So once again, to me, it makes no sense what so ever to draft QW with the intent of trading Buckner to avoid a mega contract when we need starters, or depth, desperately at the other DE, LB, WR, TE, OT, LB, OGx2, and S positions.

That's 9 players that are needed (IMO) and we have 5 picks. Wasting one replacing a stud that fits the scheme hoping the rookie is a similar talent for future draft capital seems like wasted effort/resources if we are building a winner and exactly the kind of actions that will end Kyle and Johns time in SF prematurely.

Buck is the only impact player we have at this point.

IMO, he's going to have a monster season now that there'll be help on the DLine.