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Originally posted by okdkid:Well... when somebody is actually an all-star, by all means call them an all-star. Again, it's okay for Buckner to just be very good and leave it there.
Aaron Donald changed the game, he's a generational talent.
Originally posted by 9moon:
you think Clowney is a SUPERSTAR?
Originally posted by RTFirefly:
Originally posted by 9moon:
you think Clowney is a SUPERSTAR?
The whole debate is ridiculous, but carry on! Clowney is a very, very good NFL Dlineman, and in the rare times that he and JJ Watt (former DPOY) have been healthy together, they form a formidable duo and give OCs headaches having to curtail their game plans to scheme against them.
Seriously, isn't that was that is about?
Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by sacniner:This dude is a beast... now that we have Bosa and Ford? if Armstead or Solomon step up in development, holy s**t... Buckner one on one with guards? Good luck
Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Don't need Buckner to be better than Donald or a "superstar" or whatever.....
Just need him to be at least as good as he was in 2018, and that Saleh/Krocurek coaching allows the defense to improve.
I don't see how many teams will be able to block a healthy Ford/Buck/Solly/Bosa in obvious passing situations....
Originally posted by 9moon:
you think Clowney is a SUPERSTAR?
Originally posted by jvangeystel:It sounds like what they are trying to say, very poorly I might add, is that a Superstar is a household name type of player. The fact that Buckner is an elite DT and in the top 3 of his position group doesn't make him this famous guy that everybody knows. Some might be actually saying hes not at the top of his position but, that would be a very weak argument indeed. He is an interior linemen. He is not playing the same game that Miller and Mack are. It is much more difficult to get sacks from his position and yet he still puts Qbs on their backs. I personally don't think Buck will ever get the credit he deserves even from our own fans.
He produces his first couple years and some fans say oh but, hes not famous and he has to do it for longer. Then as the team improves and somehow so does he, we'll get the excuses. Well he wouldn't put up those numbers without Bosa and Ford. I think even if Buck puts up 15 plus sacks next year he will still be relatively unknown to the casual fan and also be overshadowed by our shiny new edge rushers. Type of fans when in a bar and everybody's throwin jabs, these guys are agreeing with the enemy. Backwards!
Originally posted by jvangeystel:
It sounds like what they are trying to say, very poorly I might add, is that a Superstar is a household name type of player. The fact that Buckner is an elite DT and in the top 3 of his position group doesn't make him this famous guy that everybody knows. Some might be actually saying hes not at the top of his position but, that would be a very weak argument indeed. He is an interior linemen. He is not playing the same game that Miller and Mack are. It is much more difficult to get sacks from his position and yet he still puts Qbs on their backs. I personally don't think Buck will ever get the credit he deserves even from our own fans.
He produces his first couple years and some fans say oh but, hes not famous and he has to do it for longer. Then as the team improves and somehow so does he, we'll get the excuses. Well he wouldn't put up those numbers without Bosa and Ford. I think even if Buck puts up 15 plus sacks next year he will still be relatively unknown to the casual fan and also be overshadowed by our shiny new edge rushers. Type of fans when in a bar and everybody's throwin jabs, these guys are agreeing with the enemy. Backwards!
