DeForest Buckner Traded to the Colts

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by RedGoldSquatch:

Originally posted by okdkid:
C'mon dude...

Create list and show the man where he's wrong. It's certainly debatable but I'm curious to see by how much you believe he's off. If he's not the 2nd, is it 3rd? 4th? Worst in the league? Back up your argument.

I'll even help get you started
1. Donald
2. You're up

This is a Niners fan site. So I understand logic and reason is often tossed aside in favor of fan-ism. I didn't make the argument he's a top 2 talent. Tell me how he is. Make a convincing case.

By the way -- saying Buckner is not "elite" or a top 2-3 talent doesn't qualify as hating. People act like there aren't legit elite players along the DL across this league.

Convince me he's right. Go.

Originally posted by 9moon:

Exactly what I'm trying to point out here.. the guy is GOOD, he's ON THE WAY to becoming a SUPERSTAR...

.. but c'mon, he's not THERE yet..

Originally posted by Chief:

What the f**k are you all babbling about? Superstar? A super star is someone that is talented and famous, talked about constantly, on commercials, being interviewed, etc.

Sometimes talent isn't as important and it's more about location, personality and so on.

Buckner is one of the best defensive linemen in the NFL. But he is NOT a superstar.

Originally posted by 9moon:

don't forget that what I bolded... some may and/or will argue about Wilson.. but to me, he's earned that label.. Brady and Brees are in the decline, but they are SUPERSTARS..

again, as for the TOP 5 DTs, it does not mean that all FIVE are SUPERSTARS..

Because if Brady - Brees - Ben - Rivers all retire now.. then you're left with Aaron and Wilson as the ONLY SUPERSTARS as a QB..

as good as Mahomes - Jimmy - Matt and the other young guns are, they just are NOT superstars yet..

to make a long story short, you can put those guys on the TOP 5 at their position tho they aren't superstars yet.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Seriously who gives a f**k if Buckner is a superstar or not. Jesus Christ can football just get here already.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Defensive tackle isn't generally a position that produces superstars anyway. Guys that are known by people who may or may not even watch football. Aaron Donald is the best interior defensive lineman in the NFL, maybe the best of his generation, possibly one of the best in NFL history and I don't even think he would qualify as a superstar, not if we're going by a definition of fame/recognition by people who don't watch football.

Originally posted by Heroism:
Defensive tackle isn't generally a position that produces superstars anyway. Guys that are known by people who may or may not even watch football. Aaron Donald is the best interior defensive lineman in the NFL, maybe the best of his generation, possibly one of the best in NFL history and I don't even think he would qualify as a superstar, not if we're going by a definition of fame/recognition by people who don't watch football.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Seriously who gives a f**k if Buckner is a superstar or not. Jesus Christ can football just get here already.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

If that's the case the only superstars in the NFL are QBs and maybe one of two WRs