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Originally posted by Alfienator:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
https://mobile.twitter.com/SethWalder/status/1205222343120957449

This tweet has double teams and win rates broken down. For both Edge and DTs.

Where's Armstead on the graph?

Both AA and Buck are "off the chart," but not in a good way...

I saw Q. Williams is hovering around average. Thank the Lord we picked Bosa over him...
Originally posted by Alfienator:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
https://mobile.twitter.com/SethWalder/status/1205222343120957449

This tweet has double teams and win rates broken down. For both Edge and DTs.

Where's Armstead on the graph?

He's not on the graph b/c he's rarely double teamed
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
https://mobile.twitter.com/SethWalder/status/1205222343120957449

This tweet has double teams and win rates broken down. For both Edge and DTs.

Incredible graph! Which says to me that Buck IS NOT worth Donald money. Not even close. (I've said this before).

Considering that no DT is worth Donald money but Donald, how much do you think Buck is worth? Who is a good comp?

his starting point will probably be the Fletcher Cox contract and that was in 2017. So buck is going to want more.

the Philadelphia Eagles raised a lot of eyebrows when they gave Fletcher Cox a 6-year, $103 million contract extension with $63 million guaranteed against injury, the most ever for a non-quarterback



Good luck with that! I would be pissed.
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Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by Alfienator:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
https://mobile.twitter.com/SethWalder/status/1205222343120957449

This tweet has double teams and win rates broken down. For both Edge and DTs.

Where's Armstead on the graph?

He's not on the graph b/c he's rarely double teamed

+1
Its funny how he works. He is flat out dominate when the games dont mean much but he disappears when the games matter most. Hes the clayton kershaw on the 49ers.
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
https://mobile.twitter.com/SethWalder/status/1205222343120957449

This tweet has double teams and win rates broken down. For both Edge and DTs.

Incredible graph! Which says to me that Buck IS NOT worth Donald money. Not even close. (I've said this before).

Considering that no DT is worth Donald money but Donald, how much do you think Buck is worth? Who is a good comp?

his starting point will probably be the Fletcher Cox contract and that was in 2017. So buck is going to want more.

the Philadelphia Eagles raised a lot of eyebrows when they gave Fletcher Cox a 6-year, $103 million contract extension with $63 million guaranteed against injury, the most ever for a non-quarterback



Good luck with that! I would be pissed.

get ready to be pissed then
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
https://mobile.twitter.com/SethWalder/status/1205222343120957449

This tweet has double teams and win rates broken down. For both Edge and DTs.

Incredible graph! Which says to me that Buck IS NOT worth Donald money. Not even close. (I've said this before).

Considering that no DT is worth Donald money but Donald, how much do you think Buck is worth? Who is a good comp?

Did you see JJ Watts numbers prior to the injury. Dude was flat out embarrassing every D lineman including Donald.
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Lmao at the DeFo Buck critics. Dude is a monster and demands so much attention, has NEVER missed time, has been a model player on and off the field. Makes players around him better and people want to criticize him at week 16 when we have been decimated by injuries and he's playing with zero depth behind him??

SMH.....
Originally posted by Kyzen:
Lmao at the DeFo Buck critics. Dude is a monster and demands so much attention, has NEVER missed time, has been a model player on and off the field. Makes players around him better and people want to criticize him at week 16 when we have been decimated by injuries and he's playing with zero depth behind him??

SMH.....

No one is calling him Solomon Thomas. We're just saying he isn't up there with the elite of Donald, Jones, Watts and Campbell's. He's a good not great DT.
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Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Kyzen:
Lmao at the DeFo Buck critics. Dude is a monster and demands so much attention, has NEVER missed time, has been a model player on and off the field. Makes players around him better and people want to criticize him at week 16 when we have been decimated by injuries and he's playing with zero depth behind him??

SMH.....

No one is calling him Solomon Thomas. We're just saying he isn't up there with the elite of Donald, Jones, Watts and Campbell's. He's a good not great DT.

Yup.
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Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Kyzen:
Lmao at the DeFo Buck critics. Dude is a monster and demands so much attention, has NEVER missed time, has been a model player on and off the field. Makes players around him better and people want to criticize him at week 16 when we have been decimated by injuries and he's playing with zero depth behind him??

SMH.....

No one is calling him Solomon Thomas. We're just saying he isn't up there with the elite of Donald, Jones, Watts and Campbell's. He's a good not great DT.


I disagree completely. He's as good as all of them at his best, who knows if he's playing through injuries. I suspect he could be, most players are at this point.

How much impact did Donald have lastnight?
Originally posted by Kyzen:
I disagree completely. He's as good as all of them at his best, who knows if he's playing through injuries. I suspect he could be, most players are at this point.

How much impact did Donald have lastnight?

Don't compare Donald to Buckner. That's not fair. I love DeFo and don't want to see him embarrassed like that.
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Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Don't compare Donald to Buckner. That's not fair. I love DeFo and don't want to see him embarrassed like that.

Fair enough, let's just compare seasons then....

Aaron Donald: https://www.google.com/search?q=Aaron+Donald+stats&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari

TOT: 43 ASS 16 SACKS 11


DeFo Buck: https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en-us&ei=Mfz3XZaxKNu4tQan9Iv4BQ&q=deforest+buckner+stats&oq=deforest+buckner+s&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-serp.1.0.0i67j0l2j46j0l4.33194.44678..46626...0.0..1.242.4788.6j28j2......0....1.......8..0i131i67j0i7i30j41j41i22i30j46i131i67i275j46i67j46i131i67j46i131j0i131i273j0i273.tB_LkPu09mA

TOT. 57 ASS. 26. SACKS 6.5



5 more sacks is great? How many has Buck lost to Bosa, Ford and Armstead this year?

Lol, tha frick outta here with Buck not being upper tier just because he's been quiete the past few games.
[ Edited by Kyzen on Dec 16, 2019 at 2:03 PM ]
Buckner isn't in the same class as Donald. I'm sorry if you disagree but you're not changing my mind on this cause I know I'm right. Donald is damn near unblockable and while Buck is very manageable with a double team.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Buckner isn't in the same class as Donald. I'm sorry if you disagree but you're not changing my mind on this cause I know I'm right. Donald is damn near unblockable and while Buck is very manageable with a double team.

Donald is one of the best interior defensive lineman in NFL history. No one currently is in his class. It's a class of one.
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