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DeForest Buckner Traded to the Colts

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and ARIK ARMSTEAD is here sacking his OWN PLAYERS
Originally posted by Afrikan:
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Nice, I think Aaron Donald is going to win DPOY this year.
Originally posted by dmax:
and ARIK ARMSTEAD is here sacking his OWN PLAYERS

Smh at this front office
Originally posted by Alfienator:
Originally posted by Afrikan:


Nice, I think Aaron Donald is going to win DPOY this year.

TJ Watt is my pick
Nice game by the big uce.

Originally posted by Heroism:
Nice game by the big uce.


Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by jcs:
Leonard without Defo was leading a D ranked in the bottom teens...just saying.

Just like the Niners D was ranked towards the bottom In 2016/17/18 with Defo.

13th in total defense in 2018. He was a one man show on defense for awhile.
Monster game
Harsh reminder not to trade young, blue chip players with great intangibles unless you're getting a godfather offer
Seems like he is playing better. Lo. The niners are stuck with kinlaw and no cap space.

ExEcUtIvE oF ThUh yEEr......
[ Edited by pdizo916 on Dec 20, 2020 at 8:33 PM ]
Originally posted by pdizo916:
Seems like he is playing better. Lo. The niners are stuck with kinlaw and no cap space.

ExEcUtIvE oF ThUh yEEr......

I imagine he had to get assimilated into the system and comfortable with his teammates before he really showed his true form. Shame.
Originally posted by Afrikan:

good for him and lucky for him Bosa was out.
Originally posted by dhp318:
Harsh reminder not to trade young, blue chip players with great intangibles unless you're getting a godfather offer

Yeah. I still think they could've worked it out. I'm not as critical as many have been, but I'd have let AA and Ward walk before I let Buckner walk. They might have been able to come up with a salary structure that would've kept him here. At any rate, I'm still convinced folks wanna find ways to piss themselves off by constantly coming back to this. I just think good for Buckner and the Colts.
Hindsight is 20/20... but you have to wonder if JL/KS regret not moving AA for a 2nd round pick instead. DeFo has been a career iron man and meaningfully better + more consistent than AA, plus team captain and you reward homegrown talent.

No guarantee you could have gotten a 2nd for AA at the time of course, and the comparison is *not* DeFo vs AA, or DeFo vs Kinlaw alone, but instead:

Option 1:
a) DeFo on guaranteed money
b) AA for 2nd round pick. Take a DT with that 2nd round pick, e.g. Justin Madubuike, Neville Gallimore, Raekwon Davis etc...
c) Move DeFo to AA's DE/DT spot and rotation. Yes DeFo has been a career 3T / 5T, but he's flashed from the edge before (see sack on Russell Wilson in Week 16/17) and is more athletic & agile than AA. Think about all the times you've seen QBs just skirt around AA, compared to the times DeFo has snatched Russell Wilson. I'm convinced DeFo would actually flourish in the role AA has played the last 2 years in Kocuerk's Wide 9
- downside would've been guaranteed money, which is anti-Paraag and a risk is DeFo gets injured or declines. Also DeFo was ~$4m annually more expensive, so you aren't able to use that toward another player

Option 2 (which is what happened:
a) AA on his deal
b) Kinlaw with 1st round pick from Colts
c) another player with the $4m you save
- downside is AA never really produced *until* 2019, which happened to be both when he was surrounded by a ton of talent AND a contract year. And AA has more of an injury history

It is what it is at this point, and I love Kinlaw and I hope him + AA ball out for years to come. Kinlaw is going to be a PROBLEM. But it's always healthy to go back and evaluate the process to reaching a decision... despite the cap savings, betting big on AA after just 1 good year, vs. DeFo's consistent production + availability for years, feels like the wrong process.
Armstead was a FA so you would've had to franchise him then negotiate a trade for a 2. Not quite an accurate comparison.
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