Still should have signed Buck instead of Armstead.
The Warner deal just makes me think how don't you keep someone who is durable and a leader. Buck and Warner exemplify that.
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Jul 24, 2021 at 2:49 PM
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Jul 24, 2021 at 5:27 PM
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Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
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Buck was my guy too. I wish he would have taken a home town discount. Oh well.
Buckner didn't play for the Steelers
yea no s**t. Home town discount being the 49ers.
Originally posted by corona55569:
Still should have signed Buck instead of Armstead.
The Warner deal just makes me think how don't you keep someone who is durable and a leader. Buck and Warner exemplify that.
Would you rather have Kinlaw+AA or Buckner+3rd round pick in 2020.
I rather have Buck and that 3rd rounder the niners could have gotten by trading AA.
Jul 24, 2021 at 5:58 PM
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Originally posted by Joecool:
Did anyone want AA? We got a 1st for DeFo. Even before drafting Kinlaw, that's a solid deal.
We traded a 26 year old all-pro pass rushing IDL entering his prime years, never misses games, plays a ton of snaps, is a high character guy and a leader in the locker room. And we're trying to win a SB now. "Solid" is pushing it. The Bosa injury last year sort of made contention a moot point, but if we had kept Buck, the Buckner/Bosa combo basically guarantees a top 5 defensive line for the next 5 years. Now it's Bosa and a bunch of question marks.
Jul 25, 2021 at 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by dhp318:
We traded a 26 year old all-pro pass rushing IDL entering his prime years, never misses games, plays a ton of snaps, is a high character guy and a leader in the locker room. And we're trying to win a SB now. "Solid" is pushing it. The Bosa injury last year sort of made contention a moot point, but if we had kept Buck, the Buckner/Bosa combo basically guarantees a top 5 defensive line for the next 5 years. Now it's Bosa and a bunch of question marks.
bosa himself is a very big question mark to
Jul 25, 2021 at 1:34 PM
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Originally posted by dhp318:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Did anyone want AA? We got a 1st for DeFo. Even before drafting Kinlaw, that's a solid deal.
We traded a 26 year old all-pro pass rushing IDL entering his prime years, never misses games, plays a ton of snaps, is a high character guy and a leader in the locker room. And we're trying to win a SB now. "Solid" is pushing it. The Bosa injury last year sort of made contention a moot point, but if we had kept Buck, the Buckner/Bosa combo basically guarantees a top 5 defensive line for the next 5 years. Now it's Bosa and a bunch of question marks.
Yup. You keep Buckner, you're set at DL for a long time. You plug in players around those 2 and you have a solid DL every year.
Jul 25, 2021 at 2:18 PM
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Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by dhp318:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Did anyone want AA? We got a 1st for DeFo. Even before drafting Kinlaw, that's a solid deal.
We traded a 26 year old all-pro pass rushing IDL entering his prime years, never misses games, plays a ton of snaps, is a high character guy and a leader in the locker room. And we're trying to win a SB now. "Solid" is pushing it. The Bosa injury last year sort of made contention a moot point, but if we had kept Buck, the Buckner/Bosa combo basically guarantees a top 5 defensive line for the next 5 years. Now it's Bosa and a bunch of question marks.
Yup. You keep Buckner, you're set at DL for a long time. You plug in players around those 2 and you have a solid DL every year.
You guys realize this team can't continue setting the market for players. You resign Buckner then having Kittle, Williams and Warner with Bosa coming up would be extremely difficult even with Jimmy gone. I would've loved to keep Buckner but trading him and getting his replacement and working him to be his replacement for much cheaper was the way to go. If Kinlaw hits his upside this will be all forgiven with his potential upside and talent.
Jul 25, 2021 at 2:36 PM
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Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by dhp318:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Did anyone want AA? We got a 1st for DeFo. Even before drafting Kinlaw, that's a solid deal.
We traded a 26 year old all-pro pass rushing IDL entering his prime years, never misses games, plays a ton of snaps, is a high character guy and a leader in the locker room. And we're trying to win a SB now. "Solid" is pushing it. The Bosa injury last year sort of made contention a moot point, but if we had kept Buck, the Buckner/Bosa combo basically guarantees a top 5 defensive line for the next 5 years. Now it's Bosa and a bunch of question marks.
Yup. You keep Buckner, you're set at DL for a long time. You plug in players around those 2 and you have a solid DL every year.
You guys realize this team can't continue setting the market for players. You resign Buckner then having Kittle, Williams and Warner with Bosa coming up would be extremely difficult even with Jimmy gone. I would've loved to keep Buckner but trading him and getting his replacement and working him to be his replacement for much cheaper was the way to go. If Kinlaw hits his upside this will be all forgiven with his potential upside and talent.
If we didn't pay AA 4 mill less I would agree with you. But we gave AA a big contract.
Jul 25, 2021 at 2:40 PM
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Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by dhp318:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Did anyone want AA? We got a 1st for DeFo. Even before drafting Kinlaw, that's a solid deal.
We traded a 26 year old all-pro pass rushing IDL entering his prime years, never misses games, plays a ton of snaps, is a high character guy and a leader in the locker room. And we're trying to win a SB now. "Solid" is pushing it. The Bosa injury last year sort of made contention a moot point, but if we had kept Buck, the Buckner/Bosa combo basically guarantees a top 5 defensive line for the next 5 years. Now it's Bosa and a bunch of question marks.
Yup. You keep Buckner, you're set at DL for a long time. You plug in players around those 2 and you have a solid DL every year.
You guys realize this team can't continue setting the market for players. You resign Buckner then having Kittle, Williams and Warner with Bosa coming up would be extremely difficult even with Jimmy gone. I would've loved to keep Buckner but trading him and getting his replacement and working him to be his replacement for much cheaper was the way to go. If Kinlaw hits his upside this will be all forgiven with his potential upside and talent.
If we didn't pay AA 4 mill less I would agree with you. But we gave AA a big contract.
I'm not willing to call AA a stupid signing when he's forced to play DE due to injury. If he sucks at DT where he belongs and got 10 sacks in 19' then I'll complain. Lets see how he does with Bosa back and god willing Ford. Bosa, AA, Kinlaw and Ford in pass rushing downs would be nice.
Jul 25, 2021 at 3:08 PM
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Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by dhp318:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Did anyone want AA? We got a 1st for DeFo. Even before drafting Kinlaw, that's a solid deal.
We traded a 26 year old all-pro pass rushing IDL entering his prime years, never misses games, plays a ton of snaps, is a high character guy and a leader in the locker room. And we're trying to win a SB now. "Solid" is pushing it. The Bosa injury last year sort of made contention a moot point, but if we had kept Buck, the Buckner/Bosa combo basically guarantees a top 5 defensive line for the next 5 years. Now it's Bosa and a bunch of question marks.
Yup. You keep Buckner, you're set at DL for a long time. You plug in players around those 2 and you have a solid DL every year.
You guys realize this team can't continue setting the market for players. You resign Buckner then having Kittle, Williams and Warner with Bosa coming up would be extremely difficult even with Jimmy gone. I would've loved to keep Buckner but trading him and getting his replacement and working him to be his replacement for much cheaper was the way to go. If Kinlaw hits his upside this will be all forgiven with his potential upside and talent.
If we didn't pay AA 4 mill less I would agree with you. But we gave AA a big contract.
I'm not willing to call AA a stupid signing when he's forced to play DE due to injury. If he sucks at DT where he belongs and got 10 sacks in 19' then I'll complain. Lets see how he does with Bosa back and god willing Ford. Bosa, AA, Kinlaw and Ford in pass rushing downs would be nice.
And that's the thing. Buckner would not have played that poorly with Bosa out. AA is codependent of others players around him to be good, at least that's the only thing we've seen so far.
Jul 25, 2021 at 3:51 PM
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Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by dhp318:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Did anyone want AA? We got a 1st for DeFo. Even before drafting Kinlaw, that's a solid deal.
We traded a 26 year old all-pro pass rushing IDL entering his prime years, never misses games, plays a ton of snaps, is a high character guy and a leader in the locker room. And we're trying to win a SB now. "Solid" is pushing it. The Bosa injury last year sort of made contention a moot point, but if we had kept Buck, the Buckner/Bosa combo basically guarantees a top 5 defensive line for the next 5 years. Now it's Bosa and a bunch of question marks.
Yup. You keep Buckner, you're set at DL for a long time. You plug in players around those 2 and you have a solid DL every year.
You guys realize this team can't continue setting the market for players. You resign Buckner then having Kittle, Williams and Warner with Bosa coming up would be extremely difficult even with Jimmy gone. I would've loved to keep Buckner but trading him and getting his replacement and working him to be his replacement for much cheaper was the way to go. If Kinlaw hits his upside this will be all forgiven with his potential upside and talent.
If we didn't pay AA 4 mill less I would agree with you. But we gave AA a big contract.
The difference between their salaries was 4 million last year? We can't use APY. I doubt AA plays out his contract. I can see one or two more years.
Jul 25, 2021 at 4:02 PM
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Kinlaw better blow up this year, and that'll make the Buckner trade more palatable. But I hated the move then and nothing has occured to change my mind. The difference in salary between AA and Buck is chump change and the difference in their ability is vast. The 49ers kept the wrong guy.
Jul 25, 2021 at 4:44 PM
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Originally posted by IrishCrnjo:
Kinlaw better blow up this year, and that'll make the Buckner trade more palatable. But I hated the move then and nothing has occured to change my mind. The difference in salary between AA and Buck is chump change and the difference in their ability is vast. The 49ers kept the wrong guy.
Nah, also got Aiyuk as a result of the trade. Who is likely to be more impactful than everybody mentioned in your post.
Jul 25, 2021 at 4:47 PM
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Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by IrishCrnjo:
Kinlaw better blow up this year, and that'll make the Buckner trade more palatable. But I hated the move then and nothing has occured to change my mind. The difference in salary between AA and Buck is chump change and the difference in their ability is vast. The 49ers kept the wrong guy.
Nah, also got Aiyuk as a result of the trade. Who is likely to be more impactful than everybody mentioned in your post.
No we didn't. We already had that 1st round pick.
Jul 25, 2021 at 5:55 PM
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Originally posted by TheGore49er:The trade helped us get bucks replacement and aiyuk
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by IrishCrnjo:
Kinlaw better blow up this year, and that'll make the Buckner trade more palatable. But I hated the move then and nothing has occured to change my mind. The difference in salary between AA and Buck is chump change and the difference in their ability is vast. The 49ers kept the wrong guy.
Nah, also got Aiyuk as a result of the trade. Who is likely to be more impactful than everybody mentioned in your post.
No we didn't. We already had that 1st round pick.
Jul 25, 2021 at 6:11 PM
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:The trade helped us get bucks replacement and aiyuk
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by IrishCrnjo:
Kinlaw better blow up this year, and that'll make the Buckner trade more palatable. But I hated the move then and nothing has occured to change my mind. The difference in salary between AA and Buck is chump change and the difference in their ability is vast. The 49ers kept the wrong guy.
Nah, also got Aiyuk as a result of the trade. Who is likely to be more impactful than everybody mentioned in your post.
No we didn't. We already had that 1st round pick.
But we didnt need his replacement lol. And it did nothing to help us get BA. I'm not sure how you're coming to that conclusion seeing how we got him with OUR 1st round pick.
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