DeForest Buckner Traded to the Colts

Originally posted by dmax:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
way too early to say that.

no..its not. Armstead is hot garbage at best and kinlaw has jacked up knees

Matt Barrows writing for The Athletic disagrees with you.

"They're (the 49ers) getting terrific production from two players and good production from another. Arik Armstead and Nick Bosa each have generated 18 pressures while Dee Ford has seven despite playing just 29 percent of the defensive snaps (as opposed to 68.8 percent for Armstead and 69.9 percent for Bosa.)"

Originally posted by dj43:
Matt Barrows writing for The Athletic disagrees with you.

"They're (the 49ers) getting terrific production from two players and good production from another. Arik Armstead and Nick Bosa each have generated 18 pressures while Dee Ford has seven despite playing just 29 percent of the defensive snaps (as opposed to 68.8 percent for Armstead and 69.9 percent for Bosa.)"

Yeah Armstead is the least of our problems this season. A matter of fact he is one of our few bright spots. Armstead,Bosa, Deebo, and Trent Williams. After that we have to really search for a player on this team that we would give anything close to an "A" to.

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Trading Buckner was a huge mistake

way too early to say that.

It was a huge mistake the very second it happened.

You had a young player already playing at a Probowl level...a player that STAYED ON THE FIELD!... Pressure from the inside, which is hard to find in this league. You don't trade that kind of player.

You pay him....you pay Warner...you pay Bosa...... you can plug in players at other positions, yet still be a threat every year with those 3 players locked up.

I'm not saying our other players aren't important, but you're not going to keep everyone their whole career... so you find a way to keep the legit elite players on your defense.

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Trading Buckner was a huge mistake

way too early to say that.

It was a huge mistake the very second it happened.

You had a young player already playing at a Probowl level...a player that STAYED ON THE FIELD!... Pressure from the inside, which is hard to find in this league. You don't trade that kind of player.

You pay him....you pay Warner...you pay Bosa...... you can plug in players at other positions, yet still be a threat every year with those 3 players locked up.

I'm not saying our other players aren't important, but you're not going to keep everyone their whole career... so you find a way to keep the legit elite players on your defense.

for what it's worth I wanted to keep Buck too.

Originally posted by dj43:
Matt Barrows writing for The Athletic disagrees with you.

"They're (the 49ers) getting terrific production from two players and good production from another. Arik Armstead and Nick Bosa each have generated 18 pressures while Dee Ford has seven despite playing just 29 percent of the defensive snaps (as opposed to 68.8 percent for Armstead and 69.9 percent for Bosa.)"

YTD pressure rate:

Buckner 8.8%
Armstead 13.1%

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by dj43:
Matt Barrows writing for The Athletic disagrees with you.

"They're (the 49ers) getting terrific production from two players and good production from another. Arik Armstead and Nick Bosa each have generated 18 pressures while Dee Ford has seven despite playing just 29 percent of the defensive snaps (as opposed to 68.8 percent for Armstead and 69.9 percent for Bosa.)"

YTD pressure rate:

Buckner 8.8%
Armstead 13.1%

Cool, he gets some more pressure while getting to play 1 on 1 against RTs and doesn't have to worry about double teams that often. And what he is doing with that pressure? Most of the time he's just losing contain on his pressures and doesn't make a play to make up for that.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by dj43:
Matt Barrows writing for The Athletic disagrees with you.

"They're (the 49ers) getting terrific production from two players and good production from another. Arik Armstead and Nick Bosa each have generated 18 pressures while Dee Ford has seven despite playing just 29 percent of the defensive snaps (as opposed to 68.8 percent for Armstead and 69.9 percent for Bosa.)"

YTD pressure rate:

Buckner 8.8%
Armstead 13.1%

Cool, he gets some more pressure while getting to play 1 on 1 against RTs and doesn't have to worry about double teams that often. And what he is doing with that pressure? Most of the time he's just losing contain on his pressures and doesn't make a play to make up for that.

The lesson here is that it's okay to admit both Armstead and Buckner are very good. Both can be true. Buckner could never possibly live up to the insufferable hype this board gives him. Not his fault. And Armstead has never been as bad as some of claimed. Dunno why for some fans it's a zero sum game. Multiple players can be extremely good.

Originally posted by okdkid:
The lesson here is that it's okay to admit both Armstead and Buckner are very good. Both can be true. Buckner could never possibly live up to the insufferable hype this board gives him. Not his fault. And Armstead has never been as bad as some of claimed. Dunno why for some fans it's a zero sum game. Multiple players can be extremely good.

Hype? Dude got voted ALL PRO for a reason. Would be considered the best if he didn't play at the same time as Aaron Donald.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by dj43:
Matt Barrows writing for The Athletic disagrees with you.

"They're (the 49ers) getting terrific production from two players and good production from another. Arik Armstead and Nick Bosa each have generated 18 pressures while Dee Ford has seven despite playing just 29 percent of the defensive snaps (as opposed to 68.8 percent for Armstead and 69.9 percent for Bosa.)"

YTD pressure rate:

Buckner 8.8%
Armstead 13.1%

Cool, he gets some more pressure while getting to play 1 on 1 against RTs and doesn't have to worry about double teams that often. And what he is doing with that pressure? Most of the time he's just losing contain on his pressures and doesn't make a play to make up for that.

Did we win the PFF super bowl in 2019?

If so, do we now have 6 rings?

Wait I'm confused...

With Buckner and the Colts coming to town I made a video for my youtube channel on the topic.

Let me know what you guys think!

Dude was always injured just like the rest of this team.

Anyone who joins also gets injured. Not one starting niner has ever been fully healthy for more than a year it seems.

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
Dude was always injured just like the rest of this team.

Anyone who joins also gets injured. Not one starting niner has ever been fully healthy for more than a year it seems.

Buckner never missed a game as a Niner. Lol

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
Dude was always injured just like the rest of this team.

Anyone who joins also gets injured. Not one starting niner has ever been fully healthy for more than a year it seems.

He missed one game.

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by okdkid:
The lesson here is that it's okay to admit both Armstead and Buckner are very good. Both can be true. Buckner could never possibly live up to the insufferable hype this board gives him. Not his fault. And Armstead has never been as bad as some of claimed. Dunno why for some fans it's a zero sum game. Multiple players can be extremely good.

Hype? Dude got voted ALL PRO for a reason. Would be considered the best if he didn't play at the same time as Aaron Donald.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
Dude was always injured just like the rest of this team.

Anyone who joins also gets injured. Not one starting niner has ever been fully healthy for more than a year it seems.

Buckner never missed a game as a Niner. Lol

I had double take on that one.