Lamar Jackson QB

Jackson has a fool for a client. He needs to concede and hire an agent and then take whatever that agent can negotiate.

Originally posted by WINiner:
Jackson has a fool for a client. He needs to concede and hire an agent and then take whatever that agent can negotiate.

That's one way of looking at it, it's definitely possible that the Ravens are using that in an attempt to underpay him.

We'll see what ends up happening

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
That's one way of looking at it, it's definitely possible that the Ravens are using that in an attempt to underpay him.

We'll see what ends up happening

Underpay? What evidence do you have thst they are attempting to "underpay" him?
Is 5yrs $250m $200m(injuriy) $133m at signing underpaying?

Originally posted by jdt84_2:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
That's one way of looking at it, it's definitely possible that the Ravens are using that in an attempt to underpay him.

We'll see what ends up happening

Underpay? What evidence do you have thst they are attempting to "underpay" him?
Is 5yrs $250m $200m(injuriy) $133m at signing underpaying?

What evidence do you have that was their contract offer?

Originally posted by jdt84_2:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
That's one way of looking at it, it's definitely possible that the Ravens are using that in an attempt to underpay him.

We'll see what ends up happening

Underpay? What evidence do you have thst they are attempting to "underpay" him?
Is 5yrs $250m $200m(injuriy) $133m at signing underpaying?

Lol this is my feeling as well.

Underpay... Hell, there trying to overpay him and he still doesn't want it.

He's 1-3 in the playoffs. That's worse than dak Prescott, worse than choke romo was, and far worse than Jimmy.

Insert will Ferrell Zoolander meme here...

"Doesn't anybody notice this? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills"

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
What evidence do you have that was their contract offer?

Lamar Jackson.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/lamar-jackson-ravens-contract-offer-deal/wekv8fakyrfqwxwcxdzp4grt

All the reports on the contract have zeroed in on the $133 million number that would be guaranteed at signing. In comparison, Hurts received $110 million guaranteed at signing.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
What evidence do you have that was their contract offer?

Lamar Jackson.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/lamar-jackson-ravens-contract-offer-deal/wekv8fakyrfqwxwcxdzp4grt

All the reports on the contract have zeroed in on the $133 million number that would be guaranteed at signing. In comparison, Hurts received $110 million guaranteed at signing.

With numbers like that, in Kyle I trust. Defense win championships. A couple of good luck calls by the referees also help as well.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
What evidence do you have that was their contract offer?

Lamar Jackson.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/lamar-jackson-ravens-contract-offer-deal/wekv8fakyrfqwxwcxdzp4grt

All the reports on the contract have zeroed in on the $133 million number that would be guaranteed at signing. In comparison, Hurts received $110 million guaranteed at signing.

That's a lot different from the offer posted.

I can understand why he would turn that down. 3 years is very short for a QB, Ravens giving themselves outs if they break him.

I actually think he'd probably take that from another team.

Ravens brought in Roman and were running 3 TE sets, they exposed him to a lot of risk. It is weird that his injuries came in the pocket.

I feel sorry for the Ravens in a way, they had a year they lost 3 OL and another losing all their RB's definitely backfired on them, but Lamar pretty much kept them competive on his own and they should have got the deal done last year.

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
That's a lot different from the offer posted.

I can understand why he would turn that down. 3 years is very short for a QB, Ravens giving themselves outs if they break him.

I actually think he'd probably take that from another team.

Ravens brought in Roman and were running 3 TE sets, they exposed him to a lot of risk. It is weird that his injuries came in the pocket.

I feel sorry for the Ravens in a way, they had a year they lost 3 OL and another losing all their RB's definitely backfired on them, but Lamar pretty much kept them competive on his own and they should have got the deal done last year.

It is the exact offer i posted. Do you understand the terminology and structures? Year 3 or 4 is almost always bloated to be converted to bonus. It is protected for injury, but the team can cut for performance.

I imagine it went $2x-4x-6x-6x-7x. After year 2, they would convert the first $6x to bonus. Bring his year 3 cap hit to $3x and have the next 4 years be plus $6m.

Career earnings:
Josh Allen $85M
Lamar Jackson $33M

They are in same draft class. 😳

Last two years since eligible for new deal:
Josh Allen $67M
Lamar Jackson $25M

He's never making up that difference.It's just sad. It really is.
— Ross Tucker (@RossTuckerNFL) March 28, 2023

This kinda puts things into perspective. Lamar will eventually get paid no doubt but will he ever make up the $52 million Josh Allen has made over him this far? Yes he'll beat Josh Allen's contract but Allen will be eligible to sign a new deal in a couple years that will beat Lamar's deal he will eventually sign in the next few months. Plus what about the potential interest he is losing out on right now?

Originally posted by miked1978:

Career earnings:
Josh Allen $85M
Lamar Jackson $33M

They are in same draft class. 😳

Last two years since eligible for new deal:
Josh Allen $67M
Lamar Jackson $25M

He's never making up that difference.It's just sad. It really is.
— Ross Tucker (@RossTuckerNFL) March 28, 2023

This kinda puts things into perspective. Lamar will eventually get paid no doubt but will he ever make up the $52 million Josh Allen has made over him this far? Yes he'll beat Josh Allen's contract but Allen will be eligible to sign a new deal in a couple years that will beat Lamar's deal he will eventually sign in the next few months. Plus what about the potential interest he is losing out on right now?

Good share. I look at the player perspective. He on a rook deal, won NFL MVP (unanimous), 96 rated with 45-16 record. He rewrote the NFL record book for QB rush yds in a season. He's the closest we have come to Vick in today's game. No reason this guy should have troubling ringing the cash register. If I was a team, I would do this.. 5 years, $231m gtd, and give up 2 ones. That's a deal compared with Browns, who got a guy with off the field baggage, and paid three ones. If another team guarantees the deal, BAL will start sweating, they may not match that.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Good share. I look at the player perspective. He on a rook deal, won NFL MVP (unanimous), 96 rated with 45-16 record. He rewrote the NFL record book for QB rush yds in a season. He's the closest we have come to Vick in today's game. No reason this guy should have troubling ringing the cash register. If I was a team, I would do this.. 5 years, $231m gtd, and give up 2 ones. That's a deal compared with Browns, who got a guy with off the field baggage, and paid three ones. If another team guarantees the deal, BAL will start sweating, they may not match that.

Nobody is giving him a guaranteed five year contract. There's maybe two QB's in football that deserve a fully guaranteed contract and neither one is Lamar Jackson. Hurts got $110 million guaranteed at signing. No team around the league is looking at the Browns desperate, potato move with Watson as a precedent and agents know that. Lamar doesn't know that because he clearly doesn't understand the market which is why he should get an agent to focus on agent things while he focuses on football stuff.

He should also look at getting a proper business manager to set him up with lots of lucrative sponsorship opportunities so he wouldn't have to do embarrassing stuff like trying to market this half-assed nonsense.




Dude's the definition of "penny wise, pound foolish." Doesn't want to pay an agent, doesn't want to pay a proper business manager, he keeps 100% of what gets but what he's getting is far less than most superstar players.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Good share. I look at the player perspective. He on a rook deal, won NFL MVP (unanimous), 96 rated with 45-16 record. He rewrote the NFL record book for QB rush yds in a season. He's the closest we have come to Vick in today's game. No reason this guy should have troubling ringing the cash register. If I was a team, I would do this.. 5 years, $231m gtd, and give up 2 ones. That's a deal compared with Browns, who got a guy with off the field baggage, and paid three ones. If another team guarantees the deal, BAL will start sweating, they may not match that.

Nobody is giving him a guaranteed five year contract. There's maybe two QB's in football that deserve a fully guaranteed contract and neither one is Lamar Jackson. Hurts got $110 million guaranteed at signing. No team around the league is looking at the Browns desperate, potato move with Watson as a precedent and agents know that. Lamar doesn't know that because he doesn't understand the market which is why he should get an agent to focus on agent things while he focuses on football stuff.

He should also look at getting a proper business manager to set him up with lots of lucrative sponsorship opportunities so he wouldn't have to do embarrassing stuff like trying to market this half-assed nonsense.

My business partner Ken and I will be Dropping the @TheEntireGym this Summer 🚀🚀🚀❤️ #STAYTUNED #TRUZZ pic.twitter.com/7ZkkUKa5qk

— Lamar Jackson (@Lj_era8) March 23, 2023

Dude's the definition of "penny wise, pound foolish." Doesn't want to pay an agent, doesn't want to pay a proper business manager, he keeps 100% of what gets but what he's getting is far less than most superstar players.

Really I don't see the gtd as a big deal. These are NFL franchises, they can pay up. I don't think PHI will cut Hurts. So he will get his $255m. Over 5. Lamar gets $231 over 5. That's a bargain. Just how I see it. He wants the gtd, but the real cost is the total dollars, if you assume these guys aren't getting cut, and they probably won't, these are young very, very talented guys.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Really I don't see the gtd as a big deal. These are NFL franchises, they can pay up. I don't think PHI will cut Hurts. So he will get his $255m. Over 5. Lamar gets $231 over 5. That's a bargain. Just how I see it. He wants the gtd, but the real cost is the total dollars, if you assume these guys aren't getting cut, and they probably won't, these are young very, very talented guys.

Because it takes away flexibility for one. And escrow, that is a s**t load of money to lock in, right now put 10% of your net worth in an account that can not be touched for 5 years, can you do it? Many owners probably can't either.

And 3rd, the contracts are close to fully guaranteed anyways. They almost always have to restructure and convert the first high salary to signing bonus. Player still gets the money but it gets spread out over 5 years on the cap.

This allows the team to go get an OBJ, von miller, leonard floyd, etc during a 3-5yr super bowl push.

Originally posted by jdt84_2:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Really I don't see the gtd as a big deal. These are NFL franchises, they can pay up. I don't think PHI will cut Hurts. So he will get his $255m. Over 5. Lamar gets $231 over 5. That's a bargain. Just how I see it. He wants the gtd, but the real cost is the total dollars, if you assume these guys aren't getting cut, and they probably won't, these are young very, very talented guys.

Because it takes away flexibility for one. And escrow, that is a s**t load of money to lock in, right now put 10% of your net worth in an account that can not be touched for 5 years, can you do it? Many owners probably can't either.

And 3rd, the contracts are close to fully guaranteed anyways. They almost always have to restructure and convert the first high salary to signing bonus. Player still gets the money but it gets spread out over 5 years on the cap.

This allows the team to go get an OBJ, von miller, leonard floyd, etc during a 3-5yr super bowl push.

Flexibility doesn't matter when the guy is an MVP candidate.. what are you doing, letting him walk half way into the deal with a cut? Don't think so..

yeah when you own an NFL franchise, valued at $6-10b.. pretty sure you can raise the cash from any real financial institution, thanks to your collateral of you know, owning a flipping NFL franchise..

as you mention, close to fully gtd anyway, so why not just go all the way, pay him over $20m less than Hurts over the 5 years, and give less ones than CLE did..