Lamar Jackson QB

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Flexibility doesn't matter when the guy is an MVP candidate.. what are you doing, letting him walk half way into the deal with a cut? Don't think so..

yeah when you own an NFL franchise, valued at $6-10b.. pretty sure you can raise the cash from any real financial institution, thanks to your collateral of you know, owning a flipping NFL franchise..

as you mention, close to fully gtd anyway, so why not just go all the way, pay him over $20m less than Hurts over the 5 years, and give less ones than CLE did..

Flexible as in move money IN the contract. You can make a 20-30-60-60-60 into a 20-30-30-40-[70](12-12-6) then extend the 70 into 40(+12)-60(+12)-80(+6)-100-100. Then in the 80-100-100 years do it again if your window is still wide open or bite the cap bullet like the rams are doing now. NONE of this negatively hurts the player, sometimes it benefits the player getting more money upfront.
Also if he continues to regress, yes you can cut him and take your cap hit lumps early to jumpstart your next team building.

The owners (generally) are smart with money, the thought of getting a loan and paying interest to just put it in escrow is not sound money management.

Practically is not equal to fully. If the player does something stupid you have an out that will not cripple your team. Fully guaranteed contract, Player has a rooster fighting setup, gets arrested, you can not cut him because it will be a $200m cap hit. You put injury protections but if he gets lazy or crazy you CAN remove him from the team without cutting EVERYONE to cover the cap hit.

Originally posted by jdt84_2:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Flexibility doesn't matter when the guy is an MVP candidate.. what are you doing, letting him walk half way into the deal with a cut? Don't think so..

yeah when you own an NFL franchise, valued at $6-10b.. pretty sure you can raise the cash from any real financial institution, thanks to your collateral of you know, owning a flipping NFL franchise..

as you mention, close to fully gtd anyway, so why not just go all the way, pay him over $20m less than Hurts over the 5 years, and give less ones than CLE did..

Flexible as in move money IN the contract. You can make a 20-30-60-60-60 into a 20-30-30-40-[70](12-12-6) then extend the 70 into 40(+12)-60(+12)-80(+6)-100-100. Then in the 80-100-100 years do it again if your window is still wide open or bite the cap bullet like the rams are doing now. NONE of this negatively hurts the player, sometimes it benefits the player getting more money upfront.
Also if he continues to regress, yes you can cut him and take your cap hit lumps early to jumpstart your next team building.

The owners (generally) are smart with money, the thought of getting a loan and paying interest to just put it in escrow is not sound money management.

Practically is not equal to fully. If the player does something stupid you have an out that will not cripple your team. Fully guaranteed contract, Player has a rooster fighting setup, gets arrested, you can not cut him because it will be a $200m cap hit. You put injury protections but if he gets lazy or crazy you CAN remove him from the team without cutting EVERYONE to cover the cap hit.

we getting in the weeds here although I do like your convo and you know your contracts and the void years, how teams can manipulate it, I often find that kicking the can down the road, and the piper does need to be paid, like the Rams are going through, it is a painful process..

in terms of the rooster shenanigans .. typical contract does void if there is 'conduct detrimental to the club' etc, if he's not able to play for that reason; I just like Lamar and view him as a elite FQB, and young to boot, so this lack of a contract is frustrating, I get why Ravens don't want to pay but they opened it up to all clubs, and I don't get why one of them won't make the move, maybe he is being too stubborn and that is why

Originally posted by RDB4216:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
You think the owners had to get together to decide the browns are a dumb football team? Every non-browns fan already knows that and has no stake in the finances.

Oh I'm pretty sure the Browns fans already knows it too!! They probably know it better than anyone.

You have a charitable heart RDB. Having shoelaces instead of velcro is a sign of sophistication in that fan base… not that they know how to tie them…

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
we getting in the weeds here although I do like your convo and you know your contracts and the void years, how teams can manipulate it, I often find that kicking the can down the road, and the piper does need to be paid, like the Rams are going through, it is a painful process..

in terms of the rooster shenanigans .. typical contract does void if there is 'conduct detrimental to the club' etc, if he's not able to play for that reason; I just like Lamar and view him as a elite FQB, and young to boot, so this lack of a contract is frustrating, I get why Ravens don't want to pay but they opened it up to all clubs, and I don't get why one of them won't make the move, maybe he is being too stubborn and that is why

But the weeds is the problem if the issue is timetable, language and structure. It is why many people say he needs an agent, and is probably why he wants a simple fully guaranteed contract. (I want my payday, and you get no protections)

Stipulations like on the 5th day of the league year your salary becomes guaranteed. the niners love pushing that to after the draft. When chris culliver(IIRC) lost out on a MASSIVE workout bonus because he skipped OTAs.

dude will not get a new contract or traded for by any team. i bet he sits out the year and ravens move on from him next year.

he's spent more time whining about a contract and doing promos with his pseudoagent for a scam gym product than actually becoming a football player.

He peaked in 2019 and is a downhill spiral till he is out of the league.

Did we get him yet? I'd trade 2024 and 2025 first for him F it. Our roster is too loaded to waste. Take on the salary and pay the price later

Wonder what he got paid

Good for Lamar! I'm glad his whole contract situation has been taken care of and it's five years. Happy for him and his family.

also glad the drama is over. Lol curious what he got paid. I assume more than Hurts

Originally posted by tankle104:

Ravens now have announced they have reached agreement with Lamar Jackson on a five-year deal.

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) April 27, 2023

let's see those terms

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Side-by-side comparison of Jalen Hurts' deal with the Eagles and the Ravens' offer to Lamar Jackson last September (per @AdamSchefter)

TOTAL VALUE
JH: $255M
LJ: $250M

FULL GTD AT SIGNING
JH: $110M
LJ: $133M

TOTAL GTD
JH: $179.3M
LJ: $200M

— Sarah Ellison (@sgellison) April 17, 2023

the prior numbers just for reference as this new contract info comes in

Originally posted by tankle104:

Ravens now have announced they have reached agreement with Lamar Jackson on a five-year deal.

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) April 27, 2023

Glad he stayed a raven , good for him

It's being reported here that the deal was setup to more easily facilitate a trade for DeAndre Hopkins. The rumor I've been hearing is that the Cards trade an early 2nd+Hopkins for the Ravens pick #22.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
It's being reported here that the deal was setup to more easily facilitate a trade for DeAndre Hopkins. The rumor I've been hearing is that the Cards trade an early 2nd+Hopkins for the Ravens pick #22.

That's be deadly, Lamar needs some weapons other than andrews ffs