Lamar Jackson QB

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
Alot of money for a QB who's best season as a passer barely eclipsed 3000 yards. He basically got all that money because of what he has done running the football. Fields must be licking his chops knowing that if he can just rush for over 1000 yards each of the next 2 seasons he is in for a massive contract. Regardless of how he throws the football.

kinda silly you would refer to his best season as a passer as barely 3000 yds,, do you feel that accurately paints the picture?

what about leading the NFL in pass TDs
or winning MVP (unanimous)
explain all the pass TDs, if he can't throw the football, I will wait
led NFL in pass TDs while Brady, Rodgers both active, Mahomes also, look at 2019 season

Yeah, I'm not knocking him when I say this, but the passing lanes he created because of how great of a run threat he was that that year has a ton to do with those TDs. It'll be interesting to see how he looks going forward, I imagine his running ability won't be going anywhere for at least 2-3 more seasons, barring a bad injury (which I hope doesn't happen to anyone).

a TD is a TD, doesn't matter how he gets it - he's dangerous. My concern about him is if he can't run as well. Now he has OBJ and potentially Hopkins, it would be great for him. Specifically Hopkins, that dudes hands are like stickum.

im just glad he is in the AFC because we've historically struggled with guys like fields, Lamar, Murray. They're so damn quick and agile

I agree on the running to set up the pass, and I see this also from Fields who JT mentioned..

I don't think anyone can lead NFL in pass TDs, without having some skill at passing, not like he's just some glorified RB back there, like ppl try to make it out,, he is a QB

Realize his entire tenure try and name who his best WR is or was..

In my opinion, passing is Lamar's weakest ability as QB, but I don't think he's a bad passer. I think if he can't run and has to play from the pocket, he would be average-above average on his best days.

that's how I would describe his passing if I was breaking out his aspects of playing qb. He makes up for it and helps improve his ability to move the ball through the air because of how tremendous of a runner he is.

it's very rare to see a qb who is as quick/fast/burst/elusive as Lamar is. He can gash you in a blink.

Well this has blown up in their faces! Would have cost them so much less to get it done two years ago when they should have, and the Non-exclusive tag doesn't seem to have helped them. So much for needing an agent as well, congratulations young man.

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Well this has blown up in their faces! Would have cost them so much less to get it done two years ago when they should have, and the Non-exclusive tag doesn't seem to have helped them. So much for needing an agent as well, congratulations young man.

Yeah this is a big blunder lol. Congrats to Lamar he held his ground despite doubts all around.

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Well this has blown up in their faces! Would have cost them so much less to get it done two years ago when they should have, and the Non-exclusive tag doesn't seem to have helped them. So much for needing an agent as well, congratulations young man.

lesson here as always is get it done soon as you can, the way the contract are going up, once you lock it in, just wait for the market to adjust.. Mahomes $50m aav looking pretty cheap, they locked him for 10 years, just brilliant

Good for him he got a big ass bag.

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Funny how a lot of folks said he was dumb and needed a agent.

well, what y'all think now?

they are reporting that he is now the highest paid player in the NFL

He is biblically stupid and did need an agent if he wanted more money in the long run.

Jackson was eligible for a new deal two years ago IIRC.....and Josh Allen - a guy in his draft class - had his massive contract put in place. Now that Jackson finally has his deal, Allen has made tens of millions more in that same timeframe where Jackson has been on his rookie deal. Allen is now midway, if not more than half way through his current deal......

What do you think he's gonna get in a year+? 2 years?

Bottom line....it's money Jackson will never make up unless he plays much longer than Allen.

Originally posted by ninerjok:
Good for him he got a big ass bag.

Ya I just hope he can stay healthy and return to his mvp status

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Funny how a lot of folks said he was dumb and needed a agent.

well, what y'all think now?

they are reporting that he is now the highest paid player in the NFL

He is biblically stupid and did need an agent if he wanted more money in the long run.

Jackson was eligible for a new deal two years ago IIRC.....and Josh Allen - a guy in his draft class - had his massive contract put in place. Now that Jackson finally has his deal, Allen has made tens of millions more in that same timeframe where Jackson has been on his rookie deal. Allen is now midway, if not more than half way through his current deal......

What do you think he's gonna get in a year+? 2 years?

Bottom line....it's money Jackson will never make up unless he plays much longer than Allen.

Not entirely accurate - Josh Allen's contract was an extension to his rookie deal, Allen made $18M last year cap hit wise. His extension doesn't kick in until this season and he'll make $47M. Allen signed a 6 year deal at a lower annual average. Lamar is now on a 5 year deal while Allen is under contract for six more.

the big difference is that Allen got his signing bonus already - which is why he got so much money last season, the bills just spread that amount over the remainder of the contract extension.

what Lamar did was riskier, because of injury, but Lamar is now making more and lamars contract expires a year before Allen's current one does.

you can't rip up rookie contracts. It has to to be an extension on it. The earlier a qb signs an extension, the more team friendly it is. The qb market has been ridiculously out of control.

Originally posted by tankle104:
Not entirely accurate - Josh Allen's contract was an extension to his rookie deal, Allen made $18M last year cap hit wise. His extension doesn't kick in until this season and he'll make $47M. Allen signed a 6 year deal at a lower annual average. Lamar is now on a 5 year deal while Allen is under contract for six more.

the big difference is that Allen got his signing bonus already - which is why he got so much money last season, the bills just spread that amount over the remainder of the contract extension.

what Lamar did was riskier, because of injury, but Lamar is now making more and lamars contract expires a year before Allen's current one does.

you can't rip up rookie contracts. It has to to be an extension on it. The earlier a qb signs an extension, the more team friendly it is. The qb market has been ridiculously out of control.

It's $42 milion that Lamar has to make up, and he won't because Allen's contract will be renegotiated....which by current standards, will put him far away from Jackson.

It's money he'll probably never make up.

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Not entirely accurate - Josh Allen's contract was an extension to his rookie deal, Allen made $18M last year cap hit wise. His extension doesn't kick in until this season and he'll make $47M. Allen signed a 6 year deal at a lower annual average. Lamar is now on a 5 year deal while Allen is under contract for six more.

the big difference is that Allen got his signing bonus already - which is why he got so much money last season, the bills just spread that amount over the remainder of the contract extension.

what Lamar did was riskier, because of injury, but Lamar is now making more and lamars contract expires a year before Allen's current one does.

you can't rip up rookie contracts. It has to to be an extension on it. The earlier a qb signs an extension, the more team friendly it is. The qb market has been ridiculously out of control.

It's $42 milion that Lamar has to make up, and he won't because Allen's contract will be renegotiated....which by current standards, will put him far away from Jackson.

It's money he'll probably never make up.

How do we know the Ravens even offered him an extension like the Bills did Allen?

Biggest question is will the Ravens get him some wr's and durable rb's

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Not entirely accurate - Josh Allen's contract was an extension to his rookie deal, Allen made $18M last year cap hit wise. His extension doesn't kick in until this season and he'll make $47M. Allen signed a 6 year deal at a lower annual average. Lamar is now on a 5 year deal while Allen is under contract for six more.

the big difference is that Allen got his signing bonus already - which is why he got so much money last season, the bills just spread that amount over the remainder of the contract extension.

what Lamar did was riskier, because of injury, but Lamar is now making more and lamars contract expires a year before Allen's current one does.

you can't rip up rookie contracts. It has to to be an extension on it. The earlier a qb signs an extension, the more team friendly it is. The qb market has been ridiculously out of control.

It's $42 milion that Lamar has to make up, and he won't because Allen's contract will be renegotiated....which by current standards, will put him far away from Jackson.

It's money he'll probably never make up.

how? Allen was technically on his rookie contract last year. He just had his signing bonus paid to him last year.

lamar is going to make like $80-$100M this year because of the $50M+ and his signing bonus. Technically, Lamar is and has made more money, while being on a shorter contract.

youre under the impression that Allen has already been getting paid according to his 6 year extension he signed a few years ago, he hasn't been. Only thing he has got has been the signing bonus.

now they're both starting their new contracts at the same time, Lamar is making more a year and on a shorter contract + will get a larger signing bonus.

unless I'm missing something - Allen did his team a favor while Lamar tried to get as much as he could.

Ross Tucker

@RossTuckerNFL

Career earnings: Josh Allen $85M Lamar Jackson $33M They are in same draft class. Last two years since eligible for new deal: Josh Allen $67M Lamar Jackson $25M He's never making up that difference. It's just sad. It really is.

11:02 AM · Mar 28, 2023

Originally posted by RickyRoma:
Ross Tucker

@RossTuckerNFL

Career earnings: Josh Allen $85M Lamar Jackson $33M They are in same draft class. Last two years since eligible for new deal: Josh Allen $67M Lamar Jackson $25M He's never making up that difference. It's just sad. It really is.

11:02 AM · Mar 28, 2023

But isn't that just the signing bonus/option bonus they gave him? They just structured it uniquely but he essentially got $42M in signing bonus. That's payed upfront but prorated over 5 or so years.

you have to wait to see how Lamar's is structured before judging them. Lol Lamar could very well be making $80M+ this year.

i really don't care who's made more. Lol I just feel like this is half the story. Allen's contract extension kicks in this year. He was on the fifth year option from his rookie contract last year and the extra money he got was from the signing bonus he got a few years ago.

Originally posted by tankle104:
But isn't that just the signing bonus/option bonus they gave him? They just structured it uniquely but he essentially got $42M in signing bonus. That's payed upfront but prorated over 5 or so years.

you have to wait to see how Lamar's is structured before judging them. Lol Lamar could very well be making $80M+ this year.

i really don't care who's made more. Lol I just feel like this is half the story. Allen's contract extension kicks in this year. He was on the fifth year option from his rookie contract last year and the extra money he got was from the signing bonus he got a few years ago.

Take it up with Ross Tucker.

As I said......"He's never making up that difference"