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Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by Dirtydonedirtcheap69:
Originally posted by Alfienator:
Originally posted by LayTheWoodall:
Good hire for Seattle.. I think he will be the best of this year's new coaches

Nah, it's probably Harbaugh

lol yes a good hire, but yeah Harbaugh is a certified all timer.

good hire, what time do you guys play again in 2 weeks? I don't want to miss it.

What are you 12 lol

Gotta enjoy the times when they are down lol...
[ Edited by DRCHOWDER on Feb 1, 2024 at 4:11 PM ]
I was checking out an article on the Seattle Times website about the hiring and some dweeb Seacluck fan said something to this effect and they sounded all too serious, "The San Francisco 49ers have officially been put on notice."

lmao - I guess when you pound a team 5+ times in a row their fake fans can get a bit delusional.
Originally posted by 49erKing:
I was checking out an article on the Seattle Times website about the hiring and some dweeb Seacluck fan said something to this effect and they sounded all too serious, "The San Francisco 49ers have officially been put on notice."

lmao - I guess when you pound a team 5+ times in a row their fake fans can get a bit delusional.

Assuming Mike can turn the team around, and this play out the same way they play out for ANY team that is loaded with a rookie QB. Niners will pay Purdy, the salary cap will require some of the other stars to leave (and some also will just decline from their peaks), at the same time the Hawks will (ideally) be on their way up and momentum shifts and the Rams and Cards will be interesting how they place as well. This formula and stereotypical journey is the same rinse and repeat. I think Mahomes is the first recent QB to break this cycle.
Originally posted by zaghawk:
Originally posted by 49erKing:
I was checking out an article on the Seattle Times website about the hiring and some dweeb Seacluck fan said something to this effect and they sounded all too serious, "The San Francisco 49ers have officially been put on notice."

lmao - I guess when you pound a team 5+ times in a row their fake fans can get a bit delusional.

Assuming Mike can turn the team around, and this play out the same way they play out for ANY team that is loaded with a rookie QB. Niners will pay Purdy, the salary cap will require some of the other stars to leave (and some also will just decline from their peaks), at the same time the Hawks will (ideally) be on their way up and momentum shifts and the Rams and Cards will be interesting how they place as well.

Hold your horses, Zag. 49ers do not have to "pay Purdy" for another few years. Plus, payback has just begun. Five straight wins is peanuts compared to what your Seahawks did to the 49ers. The ten straight beatings the 49ers took at the hands of the Seahawks only tells half the story. The reality is Seattle under Wilson absolutely owned San Francisco. That 17-4 record of PURE FUTILITY must be addressed before any 49er fan becomes satisfied.

The Hawks are taking a huge gamble with a new regime, which may or may not pan out. The new HC could turn it around. He could also lead the team into a 2-14 ditch. My hope is for ditch.
Originally posted by billbird2111:
Originally posted by zaghawk:
Originally posted by 49erKing:
I was checking out an article on the Seattle Times website about the hiring and some dweeb Seacluck fan said something to this effect and they sounded all too serious, "The San Francisco 49ers have officially been put on notice."

lmao - I guess when you pound a team 5+ times in a row their fake fans can get a bit delusional.

Assuming Mike can turn the team around, and this play out the same way they play out for ANY team that is loaded with a rookie QB. Niners will pay Purdy, the salary cap will require some of the other stars to leave (and some also will just decline from their peaks), at the same time the Hawks will (ideally) be on their way up and momentum shifts and the Rams and Cards will be interesting how they place as well.

Hold your horses, Zag. 49ers do not have to "pay Purdy" for another few years. Plus, payback has just begun. Five straight wins is peanuts compared to what your Seahawks did to the 49ers. The ten straight beatings the 49ers took at the hands of the Seahawks only tells half the story. The reality is Seattle under Wilson absolutely owned San Francisco. That 17-4 record of PURE FUTILITY must be addressed before any 49er fan becomes satisfied.

The Hawks are taking a huge gamble with a new regime, which may or may not pan out. The new HC could turn it around. He could also lead the team into a 2-14 ditch. My hope is for ditch.

Yeah the Niners do not have to pay Purdy for a few years, but the thing is...he is going to get paid. YOU WANT HIM TO GET PAID because he meant he performed through those years and when he gets paid..some of the talents of the other stars will decline and/or have to leave. The playing field in the NFC west levels and...the Hawks rebuild is gonna take a few years...these are all a bunch of IFs i.e. the rebuild for the Hawks is only successful IF there is good drafting and coaching. NONE of these are guarantees, but if it does happen. None of us can predict the future, Maybe Purdy is the truth and continues to develop so he performs even better and better even as he loses some of his cast around him, or perhaps he turns out like many other QBs that have been in similar good fortune and got paid a lot more than he was worth. Or *knock on wood* s**t happens with players health and I dont wish that on any player, but I'm sure you have seen enough in that regards to know you can't depend on the 1-2 year future no matter what you see today. BTW this is why the NFL is entertaining, there are no guarantees in any direction. I will credit the salary cap doing its job in that regards.

The timing will be pretty standard and the same story book we have seen with a lot of teams going up and down. I have no idea where the Cards and Rams will fall in the mix of all this, but the NFC W is competitive. If we go back like 15 years, Niners on top, then Hawks, Then Cards, Then Rams, Then kind of an even split between Rams/Hawks/Niners, now Niners. The window of opportunity at best for any team is about 4-5 years before things mellow out and then have to re-structure and rebuild again and even at that point like you said, it could go up or go in a ditch, but I am okay with that. high risk high reward. 9-11 wins every season is not what the NFL is about, NFL is entertainment for me not my day job lol.
Originally posted by zaghawk:
Originally posted by 49erKing:
I was checking out an article on the Seattle Times website about the hiring and some dweeb Seacluck fan said something to this effect and they sounded all too serious, "The San Francisco 49ers have officially been put on notice."

lmao - I guess when you pound a team 5+ times in a row their fake fans can get a bit delusional.

Assuming Mike can turn the team around, and this play out the same way they play out for ANY team that is loaded with a rookie QB. Niners will pay Purdy, the salary cap will require some of the other stars to leave (and some also will just decline from their peaks), at the same time the Hawks will (ideally) be on their way up and momentum shifts and the Rams and Cards will be interesting how they place as well. This formula and stereotypical journey is the same rinse and repeat. I think Mahomes is the first recent QB to break this cycle.

Mahomes is just on a different level that's why.

I mean you can have long term success even if you have to pay the QB. Just gotta draft well and and get good value players in FA.

But most importantly, you need that great coach / QB combo, which is rare.

But ya, we basically have one more year after this with our core.

2025 FAs
Aiyuk
Armstead
Hufanga
Greenlaw
Ward
Lenoir
Banks (LG)

I think Banks will be gone, some team will definitely pay him well

Depending on what kind of bounce back season Hufanga has he could be gone if he looks great again.

Greenlaw most likely gone as well.

Ward/Lenoir will be interesting as well, one of them might be gone too, though I think we can keep both.

The rest we will be able to keep.
Originally posted by zaghawk:
Originally posted by billbird2111:
Originally posted by zaghawk:
Originally posted by 49erKing:
I was checking out an article on the Seattle Times website about the hiring and some dweeb Seacluck fan said something to this effect and they sounded all too serious, "The San Francisco 49ers have officially been put on notice."

lmao - I guess when you pound a team 5 times in a row their fake fans can get a bit delusional.

Assuming Mike can turn the team around, and this play out the same way they play out for ANY team that is loaded with a rookie QB. Niners will pay Purdy, the salary cap will require some of the other stars to leave (and some also will just decline from their peaks), at the same time the Hawks will (ideally) be on their way up and momentum shifts and the Rams and Cards will be interesting how they place as well.

Hold your horses, Zag. 49ers do not have to "pay Purdy" for another few years. Plus, payback has just begun. Five straight wins is peanuts compared to what your Seahawks did to the 49ers. The ten straight beatings the 49ers took at the hands of the Seahawks only tells half the story. The reality is Seattle under Wilson absolutely owned San Francisco. That 17-4 record of PURE FUTILITY must be addressed before any 49er fan becomes satisfied.

The Hawks are taking a huge gamble with a new regime, which may or may not pan out. The new HC could turn it around. He could also lead the team into a 2-14 ditch. My hope is for ditch.

Yeah the Niners do not have to pay Purdy for a few years, but the thing is...he is going to get paid. YOU WANT HIM TO GET PAID because he meant he performed through those years and when he gets paid..some of the talents of the other stars will decline and/or have to leave. The playing field in the NFC west levels and...the Hawks rebuild is gonna take a few years...these are all a bunch of IFs i.e. the rebuild for the Hawks is only successful IF there is good drafting and coaching. NONE of these are guarantees, but if it does happen. None of us can predict the future, Maybe Purdy is the truth and continues to develop so he performs even better and better even as he loses some of his cast around him, or perhaps he turns out like many other QBs that have been in similar good fortune and got paid a lot more than he was worth. Or *knock on wood* s**t happens with players health and I dont wish that on any player, but I'm sure you have seen enough in that regards to know you can't depend on the 1-2 year future no matter what you see today. BTW this is why the NFL is entertaining, there are no guarantees in any direction. I will credit the salary cap doing its job in that regards.

The timing will be pretty standard and the same story book we have seen with a lot of teams going up and down. I have no idea where the Cards and Rams will fall in the mix of all this, but the NFC W is competitive. If we go back like 15 years, Niners on top, then Hawks, Then Cards, Then Rams, Then kind of an even split between Rams/Hawks/Niners, now Niners. The window of opportunity at best for any team is about 4-5 years before things mellow out and then have to re-structure and rebuild again and even at that point like you said, it could go up or go in a ditch, but I am okay with that. high risk high reward. 9-11 wins every season is not what the NFL is about, NFL is entertainment for me not my day job lol.

A few years? Brock is eligible after next season. So we have one more football year before payday. Back to back SB wins would be swell before the cap takes a serious merry go round. But in that year some of the older guys may be gone and it all starts again.
Good hire I think for Seattle, also like Leslie Frazier as asst. HC. They're looking at Jay Harbaugh for OC. could be interesting.
Originally posted by zaghawk:
Originally posted by 49erKing:
I was checking out an article on the Seattle Times website about the hiring and some dweeb Seacluck fan said something to this effect and they sounded all too serious, "The San Francisco 49ers have officially been put on notice."

lmao - I guess when you pound a team 5+ times in a row their fake fans can get a bit delusional.

Assuming Mike can turn the team around, and this play out the same way they play out for ANY team that is loaded with a rookie QB. Niners will pay Purdy, the salary cap will require some of the other stars to leave (and some also will just decline from their peaks), at the same time the Hawks will (ideally) be on their way up and momentum shifts and the Rams and Cards will be interesting how they place as well. This formula and stereotypical journey is the same rinse and repeat. I think Mahomes is the first recent QB to break this cycle.

Except the 49ers draft WAY better than Seattle historically. In the scenario you just described Seattle NAILED a few picks over 2 drafts and rode that for a decade and were unable to replace the guys they couldn't pay because they blew their drafts year after year. I don't anticipate that to be the case in SF.
So for the Niner fans in this specific thread question for you, because honestly you probably thought it...

If your Niners win the SB, I'm sure you will be ecstatic. What's next? back to back? dynasty? finally the monkey off the Niners franchise back of being able to win a SB this century, quest for six is complete...and of course Niners > Hawks in literally every way possible, I will accept that because the one thing the Seahawks have is a SB win this century over the Niners, but yes NFCCG appearances, SB appearances the Niners have more.

BUT...if the Niners lose, and if I was a fan of your team this would be something that scares me. Let's face it for conspiracy theorists the money is strong with the mahomes/kelce/swift/vegas narrative. Plus Mahomes is just something else. But if the Niners lose, it will mean 3 SB appearance losses in a row, a contender window is short (3-4 years maybe), and statistics have NOT been in favor of teams the following year that go to the SB and lose. Obviously you're not going to stop rooting for your team, but how does this affect your belief in the franchise especially under Kyle moving forward to win the whole thing?
Originally posted by zaghawk:
So for the Niner fans in this specific thread question for you, because honestly you probably thought it...

If your Niners win the SB, I'm sure you will be ecstatic. What's next? back to back? dynasty? finally the monkey off the Niners franchise back of being able to win a SB this century, quest for six is complete...and of course Niners > Hawks in literally every way possible, I will accept that because the one thing the Seahawks have is a SB win this century over the Niners, but yes NFCCG appearances, SB appearances the Niners have more.

BUT...if the Niners lose, and if I was a fan of your team this would be something that scares me. Let's face it for conspiracy theorists the money is strong with the mahomes/kelce/swift/vegas narrative. Plus Mahomes is just something else. But if the Niners lose, it will mean 3 SB appearance losses in a row, a contender window is short (3-4 years maybe), and statistics have NOT been in favor of teams the following year that go to the SB and lose. Obviously you're not going to stop rooting for your team, but how does this affect your belief in the franchise especially under Kyle moving forward to win the whole thing?

Yeah. The zone will move into meltdown under that eventuality. For myself, after a few days of massive depression it will be back to business as usual. And I think that we have the right owner, the right Head Coach, the right General Manager and the right contract guy. And if the football Gods do not wish to give us the prize this year, then next year will be nearly as good.

Thank you for posting on a level and reasonable basis unlike many of your fellow fans, and it certainly looks as though your team has something to look forward to.
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by zaghawk:
So for the Niner fans in this specific thread question for you, because honestly you probably thought it...

If your Niners win the SB, I'm sure you will be ecstatic. What's next? back to back? dynasty? finally the monkey off the Niners franchise back of being able to win a SB this century, quest for six is complete...and of course Niners > Hawks in literally every way possible, I will accept that because the one thing the Seahawks have is a SB win this century over the Niners, but yes NFCCG appearances, SB appearances the Niners have more.

BUT...if the Niners lose, and if I was a fan of your team this would be something that scares me. Let's face it for conspiracy theorists the money is strong with the mahomes/kelce/swift/vegas narrative. Plus Mahomes is just something else. But if the Niners lose, it will mean 3 SB appearance losses in a row, a contender window is short (3-4 years maybe), and statistics have NOT been in favor of teams the following year that go to the SB and lose. Obviously you're not going to stop rooting for your team, but how does this affect your belief in the franchise especially under Kyle moving forward to win the whole thing?

Yeah. The zone will move into meltdown under that eventuality. For myself, after a few days of massive depression it will be back to business as usual. And I think that we have the right owner, the right Head Coach, the right General Manager and the right contract guy. And if the football Gods do not wish to give us the prize this year, then next year will be nearly as good.

Thank you for posting on a level and reasonable basis unlike many of your fellow fans, and it certainly looks as though your team has something to look forward to.

Post edited.
[ Edited by 4T-9ers on Feb 7, 2024 at 9:02 PM ]
Hawks just hired Grubb as the new Offensive Coordinator.
Don't think I've posted here in a few years...(but I do lurk a bit). Just wanted to stop in and say congratulations to you guys for another SuperBowl visit... Can't wish you good luck. But I'm looking forward to the game tomorrow.

In my neighborhood (Ewa Beach ,HI), even if I wasn't watching over the past several weeks, I knew the outcome of the Niners game based on the explosions all around (people love their fireworks over here). So tomorrow, it's very possible my dogs are going to be hating life and scared s**tless yet again...

Gonna be interesting to start a new era in Seahawks football, and see how that plays out over the next 3-4 years. I definitely was not on the "get rid of Pete" bandwagon that seemed prevalent starting around 4 years ago... But this offseason, I think I was ready for it, and it was the right time. Still, going to miss that guy. If you disassociate yourself from hating him as a rival fan, I'm sure you'd agree he was a pretty remarkable leader and coach. Basically, Tony Robbins stuff...

I love the Mike Macdonald hire obviously. You just never know though. A lot of teams were very convinced Dan Quinn was going to be able to successfully translate that LoB Seahawks success, and that obviously never happened. Granted, I'm quite under-researched on this guy and his specific contributions in Baltimore. I appreciate the information you all provide in this thread. Sounds like near best available for options.

It will be very interesting to see what he can do not just concerning our scheme, but the form and tackling approach of our players. Most Hawks fans have been VERY disappointed in tackling the last few years - players going for the big hit (and bouncing off) rather than wrapping up. So strange to see that on a Carrol team that had previously put out tackling video's (as though it was some long lost technique). So he's got his work cut out for him just re-establishing those fundamentals.

I agree with the comments concerning Macdonald (presumably) bringing a new defensive scheme to the division. I think it's safe to say, what Pete and his merry band of rotating DC's were doing has been figured out, and probably left behind in the scrap-heap (of ideas that used to work in the league). Hopefully, we have the right puzzle pieces to adapt. Also, my hope is that our fickle fanbase gives our new coaches enough time to execute on what is most certainly a multi-year process.

My Hawks probably aren't winning 11 games next year. 10 would be amazing, but still over-achieving I think. We'll see. What would you guys be expecting in our shoes?

Anyway, here's to hoping for an injury free SuperBowl...(best I can do). Cheers!
[ Edited by OahuHawkFan on Feb 10, 2024 at 10:47 AM ]
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